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I did not know where to put this but decided to post it here if it needs moved to another forum then mods please do so as i am still new here and getting used to this board. now for my question.

i know most here don't believe in visions as true from God that i see at times but putting aside that it being not from God.

If you had the chance to help the police on cold cases and missing people to help them find the people missing or to help get the ones who are guilty of murdering them and things like ( seeing where their dead body is at or buried ) would you do it? I don't mean charging money for it or anything like that but to use your gift for free!

would like your opinions on this both negative and positive please? thanks.
 
If it be a gift of God then it is one that edifies the church and is used for the purpose of leading others to Christ. The sign gifts are those that are used to be signs to those that believe not so that they may believe. Believers don't need a sign. No where is scripture did God say that we should use the gifts he gave us to do outside work for the gentile unbelievers to solve their crimes etc. If it be a gift of God, then I encourage you to use it solely for the purpose edifying the church of Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
Most, including myself do not put any faith in so called visions from God spoken by other men. We know we cannot trust other men and most so called visions turn out to be false.

I am going to be president, God sent me a vision, remember that one~~

If God really sent a vision, that yahoo would be president.

However true visions and communication from God to us does exist and is to be kept silent , it is for you and you alone.

If I were given such a gift , I would use it, but I would be very wise about it. I would demand that my name never be revealed, that the way the case is resolved never be told. And if successful I would simply tell God ......Thank You.

For example if you killed someone years ago and I am on your trail, and you know my gift is true, you may decide to kill me or harm my family to stop my progress. We must be very wise in this evil world. And give all thanks to God for such things. Not shout them from the roof like the things we see on T.V.

Kit
 
If it be a gift of God then it is one that edifies the church and is used for the purpose of leading others to Christ. The sign gifts are those that are used to be signs to those that believe not so that they may believe. Believers don't need a sign. No where is scripture did God say that we should use the gifts he gave us to do outside work for the gentile unbelievers to solve their crimes etc. If it be a gift of God, then I encourage you to use it solely for the purpose edifying the church of Jesus Christ our Lord.

okay, thanks for the reply.

now i have a question for you and others here and will use an example so you will know what i am saying/asking.

Example - a christian couple lose their son, he goes missing from where he was supposed to catch the school bus on a field trip with his school. either the shaperons or the teachers were not paying attention and lost sight of him or the teachers on the trip lost sight of him. no one ever found him and it has been several long years. the couple continues to pray for answers even if he is dead so they can put him to rest and move on. the police has not closed the case but put his folder into the cold case files. now suppose i happen to be given the oppertunity to look thru their files, visit the places where he was last seen alive etc. in doing this i get visions that can help them lead to him rather he be alive or buied in a shallow grave. the child is found they get the closer they need ( his parents ) and their prayers answered, and the police get the case solved and if possiable a charge and arrest on the person who did the act ( sometimes the person is already dead or in jail ). now no one knows i helped them, not the couple who lost the child or the media, only the police know because they used my gift to help them all.

now are you saying doing this i would not get to Heaven?

i agree to respect your opinion but if i can help bring closer to others hurting by the gift i have then i guess i won't make it into heaven:shock: God gave me this gift and i believe he do so that i could help others, i remember in the bible about the ones given talents and some went and used their talent while another did not. sorry but my bible reading not that good and cant exactly quote the exact verse on this but i believe if God gives one a gift he intends for them to use it.
 
Most, including myself do not put any faith in so called visions from God spoken by other men. We know we cannot trust other men and most so called visions turn out to be false.

I am going to be president, God sent me a vision, remember that one~~

If God really sent a vision, that yahoo would be president.

However true visions and communication from God to us does exist and is to be kept silent , it is for you and you alone.

If I were given such a gift , I would use it, but I would be very wise about it. I would demand that my name never be revealed, that the way the case is resolved never be told. And if successful I would simply tell God ......Thank You.

For example if you killed someone years ago and I am on your trail, and you know my gift is true, you may decide to kill me or harm my family to stop my progress. We must be very wise in this evil world. And give all thanks to God for such things. Not shout them from the roof like the things we see on T.V.

Kit

i did not get to read your post before i responded above, but yes i never give out my name, the police dont tell who helps them it is all done anon.:wink:
 
I did not know where to put this but decided to post it here if it needs moved to another forum then mods please do so as i am still new here and getting used to this board. now for my question.

i know most here don't believe in visions as true from God that i see at times but putting aside that it being not from God.

If you had the chance to help the police on cold cases and missing people to help them find the people missing or to help get the ones who are guilty of murdering them and things like ( seeing where their dead body is at or buried ) would you do it? I don't mean charging money for it or anything like that but to use your gift for free!

would like your opinions on this both negative and positive please? thanks.
what youre suggesting is not above the Lord to bless...its also above my pay grade to judge one way or another :wink:.two things are for sure here (one) God says our giftings will make a way for themselves and (second) He is faithful to equip the saints if they step out for Him in faith..only you know if this was from God and the fruit of it will bear it out,truly it is a gift from God to help familys find thier lost loved ones God bless you in youre endevors in the lord may the spirit of God be on this decision in your life for wisdom ....REV
 
Grace and Peace

Over the years the media have done a great job combining psychics, medium, esp or extrasensory perception,sorcery, prophets, visions and prophecy into one making them all equal. When they are not. The powers are the same but the source/purpose is different.

How do we distinguish a prophet from a psychic ?
Leviticus 20:6
“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, ******* after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 19:31
“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

Now I'm not calling you a psychic ( you have not mention your title) or suggesting anything, so please do not be offended. This is serious topic and everyone should be open for discussion.

Within your circle what do people call you ?
Prophet of God
Christian psychic
psychic
ghost whisper
psychic detective

What do you call yourself/ or the title you hold when/if the police is working with you or any person seeking help ?

I'm sure you did this already, but I'll still share this verse for its very important we test all things.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.


It's because of that verse I'm led to ask these questions so bare with me.

I've watch documentaries and read stories of psychics helping the police and they weren't christian but were spiritual/enlighten ( based on the ones I watched, this does not speak for every person with these powers that work with the police ) I never watch the entire segment I would always turn the channel when they go into trance or they say something disturbing. I don't doubt their powers( nor do I doubt yours ) but one thing dawn on me " the devil also knows where those bodies are, cause he put them there."

Famous psychic Sylvia Brown have been parading herself over the years on different network shows helping family members deal with lost or a haunting in their house. I remember her telling one woman not to mourn her dead brother for he was inside her daughter.
How come she did not see 9/11 ?
why didn't her spirit guides tell her to warn us about 9/11 ?

So my last thought is,
Helping solve crimes is important and would put those deserving of punishment in jail/death. I have yet to see a tv show with psychics helping the police before the crime is committed.

Have you ever experience a vision foretelling a crime before it happen?
Or those dealing with crime is mainly after the crime is committed?

Thank you for sharing and I look forward to you honest response.
 
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now are you saying doing this i would not get to Heaven?

Hi whitedove, grace and peace unto you.

The question of heaven or not is a huge one. Eternal life is about knowing and understanding God, his Son and their ways, walking in them. Rizen1 above has given you a lot of good things to meditate on and ask yourself. Truly devoting yourself unto God and his Christ with all of your mind, body and soul, is just that. Are you using this ability to bring people to give their lives unto Christ or edify the body of Christ? Those are the only purposes for a spiritual gift. Are your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace? Do you confess Jesus Christ as Lord to those whom you are using this gift to aid?

The question of salvation is summed up in a life that bears witness to the truth that Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God, is Lord over all and was sent by the Father to give his life a ransom for many. I suggest taking this directly to God in prayer. Ask him to glorify himself in you. Ask him to show if this is a gift from him meant to help others as he wishes or if it is not of him to take it away from you. Either way, use your life to glorify God the Father by being obedient unto his Son, The Word of God, Jesus Christ.

In Christ,

Gary
 
Grace and Peace

Over the years the media have done a great job combining psychics, medium, esp or extrasensory perception,sorcery, prophets, visions and prophecy into one making them all equal. When they are not. The powers are the same but the source/purpose is different.

How do we distinguish a prophet from a psychic ?
Leviticus 20:6
“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, ******* after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 19:31
“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

Now I'm not calling you a psychic ( you have not mention your title) or suggesting anything, so please do not be offended. This is serious topic and everyone should be open for discussion.

Within your circle what do people call you ?
Prophet of God
Christian psychic
psychic
ghost whisper
psychic detective

What do you call yourself/ or the title you hold when/if the police is working with you or any person seeking help ?

I'm sure you did this already, but I'll still share this verse for its very important we test all things.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

It's because of that verse I'm led to ask these questions so bare with me.

I've watch documentaries and read stories of psychics helping the police and they weren't christian but were spiritual/enlighten ( based on the ones I watched, this does not speak for every person with these powers that work with the police ) I never watch the entire segment I would always turn the channel when they go into trance or they say something disturbing. I don't doubt their powers( nor do I doubt yours ) but one thing dawn on me " the devil also knows where those bodies are, cause he put them there."

Famous psychic Sylvia Brown have been parading herself over the years on different network shows helping family members deal with lost or a haunting in their house. I remember her telling one woman not to mourn her dead brother for he was inside her daughter.
How come she did not see 9/11 ?
why didn't her spirit guides tell her to warn us about 9/11 ?

So my last thought is,
Helping solve crimes is important and would put those deserving of punishment in jail/death. I have yet to see a tv show with psychics helping the police before the crime is committed.

Have you ever experience a vision foretelling a crime before it happen?
Or those dealing with crime is mainly after the crime is committed?

Thank you for sharing and I look forward to you honest response.


sorry with the late reply, had some things i had to do,

what do i call myself? what does others call me? just a simple lady, nothing fancy, just my name, i dont wear a title and prefer not to because i am nothing special, just simple me.

physic sylvia brown is a fraud no doubt, i am sure she uses taror and things like that, to use those cards or the so called oujie board are nothing but dealing with dead spirits that are often bad, yes they will tell you they are helping you, and they may even appear as a bright light and get one to believe in them, and so on. that is something i dont do! i supose the reason she did not see 911 was because the evil spirits she talks top decided not to let her see it. i seen 911 happen, even questioned my preacher on it, he told me it was just a dream and meant nothing. when i seen it i asked him what it meant to see a plane fly into a building, he said it was just a dream. the reason i told him i seen it was because he was going on a mission trip to the UK and i believe it was meant for me to see it to warn him. the very same day he was going to get on the plane it happened, of course he didn't get to go because all the planes were grounded. if i could have done something to stop it i would have, maybe i was suposed to but failed:shock: i also seen a shooting/murder take place in the church parking lot. it scared me so much that i had told my minister i thought my boy friend was gonna kill me, he did show up and my minister called the law, they searched his car but it was him,nor did he have a gun. if only they would come to me with exact dates would help so much better, but i soon left that church because the visions got stronger and stronger, after i left 2 months later a lady and 4 year old daughter were gun downed in the church parking lot. kim and sarah wyatt, her daughter was 4 years old. i cried so much because if i had known the exact date i could have probably saved her and her daughter. i asked a preacher that one time, he told me that true visions of God dont show exact dates or times. guess thats why these physics like mentioned above and like Harold camping are often wrong because they give exact dates.

the answer to your last question is both before and after. i see visions before. i seen the may flood in nashville before it even happened, and i am not perfect because i am a simple human and have the same fears and feelings, and even the same mistakes. i was suicidal for a while because these visions do make one depressed a lot that when i seen the may flood i posted it on a suicidal help forum that it would be a record breaking flood in may and it came true, the may flood did in fact happen, and nashville was flooded, how i knew it was may? i seen mayflowers and the mayflower ship, had mayflower on the side so both together with music city grand ole opry sign, i knew it was in nashville and had something to do with may. i can give anyone the link if they like to view it where i told it would happen before it happened. but i am not here for glory to myself or to make myself famouse or even considered a high authority as i am not,

now those i see happen after they do, with the police cold cases. i can look at a missing person and touch anything they last had, view their files, go to the last place they were seen at and i can both see and feel what they personaly felt. if they were pulled by their hair, i feel the pull, if they were beatin or stabbed i feel the pain. its like i hear them crying and know exactly where they are at. often i can see the auto they were put in, even if they were wrapped up in plastic. the auto tags number, where the plastic came from, etc help the police find them and solve the crime. i dont like doing these after the crimes but if the police get stumped i help them free of charge. my gift comes from God freely and thus i need to give it to others free help which i do.

i am not a prophet, a God, an ANgel, i am simply me. a human being living each day as a true gift of God because one day i will get to go back home. one day all the evil, crimes, sin, hurting, crying, death will all be gone. i make mistakes just like everyone else but i learn from them. God is bending me and shaping me into what he wants me to be, i am the clay and hes the potter. :wink:
 
Hi whitedove, grace and peace unto you.

The question of heaven or not is a huge one. Eternal life is about knowing and understanding God, his Son and their ways, walking in them. Rizen1 above has given you a lot of good things to meditate on and ask yourself. Truly devoting yourself unto God and his Christ with all of your mind, body and soul, is just that. Are you using this ability to bring people to give their lives unto Christ or edify the body of Christ? Those are the only purposes for a spiritual gift. Are your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace? Do you confess Jesus Christ as Lord to those whom you are using this gift to aid?

The question of salvation is summed up in a life that bears witness to the truth that Jesus Christ, the sinless Son of God, is Lord over all and was sent by the Father to give his life a ransom for many. I suggest taking this directly to God in prayer. Ask him to glorify himself in you. Ask him to show if this is a gift from him meant to help others as he wishes or if it is not of him to take it away from you. Either way, use your life to glorify God the Father by being obedient unto his Son, The Word of God, Jesus Christ.

In Christ,

Gary


hi Gary,

i am way ahead of you there on asking God, many, many times i have asked him if it is truly from him i thank him and if not to take it from me, i still got it tho, everyone i meet or speak with knows i love Jesus and God with all my heart. I talk about Jesus all the time to others. my 76 year old dad never been to christ in his life, never really believed in it but i took him to church one day and he liked it, started learning about the Lord and about Jesus, then my then 15 year old niece, and 12 year old neice started going and really enjoyed learning about God and about Jesus, then one wed. night both my dad 75 years old and my niece 15 year old gave their life to christ and both were baptized into christ. praise God and thank him for that every day since, then 2 month later out 12 year old gave her life over to christ. the angles were rejoicing that day and still do. everyone i meet, i ask if they know Jesus. i am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ and even put up Jesus is Lord sticker on my van bumper, and believe it or not i had a guy pull up beside me and tell me to take that bumper sticker and shove it up, well you probably know what else he said to me. i told him sir, i love jesus and will never take that off ever, he just drove off but hey i love him and i will proclaim as long as the Good Lord lets me:wink:

i mean look at what this country has already done, they took out prayer from school, you cant say a prayer anywhere most the time. i was eating in a resturant and said a prayer at the table before eating and when i said amen a guy in the next booth said thank you for that prayer, i told him not thank me thank God that i was allowed to say it, and he told me that he hasnt prayed to God in a long time but my praer right there at the table got him to rethink his life, i don't know if he did go back to God but if he did we need to thank God for that! you know any little act that you do can help someone else rediscover their love for God.

i just wanna get closer to him by being here and studing and praying more. cause i love Jesus and always will
 
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