Happy Sir Issac Newton Day!

[Davy]

I was going to wish everyone a happy "Christ"-mass day, but he was not really born on the 25th of December, unlike Sir Issac Newton who was in 1642.

For that matter, what does a fir tree have to do with Christ or the bible? The Christmas tree is a Scandinavian pagan custom ritual that had to do with winter light and rebirth. Trees with trinkets hanging on them were part of the same pagan festivals for centuries.

Holly was popular with the Celts to keep the house goblins in order at winter solstice time. It had magical powers to deflect evil, help in the divination of dreams and defend the house from lightning.

Gift giving was a feature of the Roman pagan festival of Saturnalia. You were expected at this festival to give some present to all your friends.

Mistletoe came from the Druids in England who used it in strange worship relating to demonic and occult powers.

Santa was stolen from ancient German mythology. Thor was an elderly man, jovial and friendly, of heavy build with a long white beard. He drove a chariot and was said to live in the Northland. His element was fire, his color red. The fireplace in every home was sacred to him, and he was said to come down into it through the chimney.

So, as no actual part of Christmas has anything in "FACT" to do with Jesus or the bible. As many are planning to celebrate it, I thought at least it could be referred to someone who was actually born on the 25th of December.

Happy Sir Issac Newton Day! Davy.

 

[dannibear]

I am glad no one needs just one day to celebrate
Christ's birth. Everyday is a chance to celebrate
the miraculous gift of Jesus.

 

[gdemoss]

Santa was stolen from ancient German mythology.

I really doubt this is true. Can't you see the truth in the name alone? Santa....can't you see it? Snata....wait its there. Saatn....ohh this is getting frustrating! Satan...ah there it is. I knew it was just a typo.

Santa revealed ... Satan.

Now a serious reply to your post. You brought up a detailed report about the sources that all of these things have originated from. Do you really believe the things that you read outside of Gods word that are telling you exactly when and how things happened? What real proof do you have about the origins of Santa through Ancient German mythology? I ask because I hope you will think on it for a moment. We are told that we will be judged for every idle word. Brother, I do not want you to be accused of spreading anything that is false. That said, I have no authority to say that the things you brought up are false. I won't agree to them or spread them since they cannot be proven to be true.

With love In Christ,

Gary

 

[james g]

I really doubt this is true. Can't you see the truth in the name alone? Santa....can't you see it? Snata....wait its there. Saatn....ohh this is getting frustrating! Satan...ah there it is. I knew it was just a typo.

Santa revealed ... Satan.

that is funny.

 

[Davy]

Hi Gary, I do not know why you only focused on Santa Claus, perhaps because many believe it comes from the traditional belief that Santa Claus is actually the mystic Bishop "St. Nicholas". However, contrary to popular belief there is not historical evidence that collaborates the person of St. Nicholas, being Santa Claus.

The renowned Mythologist Helene Adeline Guerber presents a very convincing case tracing Santa to the Norse god Thor in Myths of Northern Lands: Here is a quote from her heavily researched book: "Thor was the god of the peasants and the common people. He was represented as an elderly man, jovial and friendly, of heavy build, with a long white beard. His element was the fire, his color red. The rumble and roar of thunder were said to be caused by the rolling of his chariot, for he alone among the gods never rode on horseback but drove in a chariot drawn by two white goats (called Cracker and Gnasher). He was fighting the giants of ice and snow, and thus became the Yule-god. He was said to live in the "Northland" where he had his palace among icebergs. By our pagan forefathers he was considered as the cheerful and friendly god, never harming the humans but rather helping and protecting them. The fireplace in every home was especially sacred to him, and he was said to come down through the chimney into his element, the fire." (Guerber, H.A. Myths of Northern Lands. New York: American Book Company, 1895, p. 61)

Even today in Sweden, Thor represents Santa Claus. The book, The Story of the Christmas Symbols, records: Swedish children wait eagerly for Jultomten, a gnome whose sleigh is drawn by the Julbocker, the goats of the thunder god Thor. With his red suit and cap, and a bulging sack on his back, he looks much like the American Santa Claus. (Barth, Edna. Holly, Reindeer, and Colored Lights, The Story of the Christmas Symbols. New York: Clarion Books, 1971, p. 49)

In the Handbook of Christian Feasts and Customs, author Francis Weiser traces the origin of Santa to Thor: "Behind the name Santa Claus actually stands the figure of the pagan Germanic god Thor." (Weiser, Francis X. Handbook of Christian Feasts and Customs. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., 1952, p. 113)

In conclusion, the bizarre and mutual attributes of Thor and Santa are no accident. They are substance and fact!

I hope that puts your mind at ease, have a happy Sir Issac Newton day. Davy.

 

[gdemoss]

In conclusion, the bizarre and mutual attributes of Thor and Santa are no accident. They are substance and fact!

I hope that puts your mind at ease, have a happy Sir Issac Newton day. Davy.

My question is, when you talk about things you present as 'fact' that are not from the bible, with what authority can you say they are indeed 'fact'? With the bible I can say that I stand on the authority of the word of God. Where do the sources you quoted get their authority to present these things as fact? It all comes down to believing the word of man. I personally don't put any faith in what man says and will not attribute 'facts' to them.