Genesis 3:15 'Thy Seed'

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A beautiful picture of the gospel hidden in that parable .

I would offer the seed is the spiritual seed (one) not seen, the eternal Christ is the seed of the woman or bride of Christ. And not seeds of the flesh the multitude . A companion verse in Isiah 53. The seed bruises the heel as the father strikes the Son it crushes the head of the evil one


Geneisis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ


Isaiah 53 :3-11 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

'And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed and her seed;
IT shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise HIS heel.'
(Gen 3:15)

Hello @Garee,

Thank you for your input.

The words, 'It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel': denote the temporary nature of the suffering of the Seed, and the complete destruction of Satan and his works (Hebrews 2:14; 1 John 3:8) .

Heal = lower part
Head = vital part

* This is the first great promise and prophecy.

'Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood,
He also Himself likewise took part of the same;
that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.'
(Hebrews 2:14-15)

'He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that He might destroy the works of the devil.'
(1 John 3:8)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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@Garee said:-
I would offer the seed is the spiritual seed (one) not seen, the eternal Christ is the seed of the woman or bride of Christ. And not seeds of the flesh the multitude . A companion verse in Isiah 53. The seed bruises the heel as the father strikes the Son it crushes the head of the evil one'

Hello @Garee,

I must question your words here: for how can The Lord Jesus Christ be both 'the seed of the woman' and 'the bride of Christ'? For does not that make Christ as 'the Seed' marry Himself? Also, as He is male, how can He be called 'the Bride', which is female?

He is 'The Seed of the woman', but He is also 'The Christ'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Not everything is always as it appears to be.

I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: SHE shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for HER heel.​

(Genesis 3:15 Douay Rheims Bible)​

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and enmity I put between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he doth bruise thee—the head, and thou dost bruise him—the heel.'​

(Genesis 3:15 Young's Literal Translation)​

No, unfortunately we don't know this. The word "seed" falls into a category known as a "mass noun". The word may be singular as in "I planted one seed," or plural as in "We planted the south field with seed." This is true in both English and Greek. Of course context may help, but not in this case. I can't, unfortunately, speak with regards to the Hebrew at this point. Is זֶרַע (H2233) a mass noun? One would need to be an expert in Hebrew to draw such a conclusion.

Rhema


I'm sure you know that God did this, not Satan.

Hello @Rhema,

In 'The Vulgate,' the late-4th-century Latin translation of the Bible that was to become the Catholic Church's official Latin version of the Bible during the 16th century, and is still used fundamentally in the Latin Church to this day, corrupted the wording of Genesis 3:15, by using the word, 'she', which lies at the root of Mariolatry.

The word 'seed' is shown to be singular by the context, in the use of the words, 'It', and 'His'. It refers to Christ, as the Anointed One Who was to come.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Garee]

Hello @Garee,

I must question your words here: for how can The Lord Jesus Christ be both 'the seed of the woman' and 'the bride of Christ'? For does not that make Christ as 'the Seed' marry Himself? Also, as He is male, how can He be called 'the Bride', which is female?

He is 'The Seed of the woman', but He is also 'The Christ'.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I would offer by looking at the new propmised name the Father named the bride "Christian" previously calling the born again bride of Christ Israel, as in all Israel is not born again Israel.

The word Christian which the father named in Acts with no other meaning added as a demonym is "residents of the city of Christ prepared as the bride of Christ named after her founder and husband Christ".

Christ is the spiritual seed (not the fleshly seeds ) the power that works in all believers as the bride .

In that way both Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 53 or compatible . Two parables or witnesses that hide the the spiritual understanding of the gospel revealing it to his children .

I would offer another example. looking on the surface the understanding of the parable found in Exodus 4. it would seem Zipporah who was acting as a priestess for God was married to her son Gershom, meaning foreigner (sent from a foreign land not of this world the new Jerusalem again prepared as the Christin bride). calling Gershom, her bloody husband because of circumcision. Again referring the the spiritual seed not seen. He uses the metaphor bloody husband twice to to emphasize the one seed that does work in His bride.

Exodus 4: 23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

The gospel that worked beforehand in the old testament saints.

1 Peter 1 speaks of that salvation reckoned through Zipporah the priestess .She like us today received the end of her new born agin faith through the spiritual seed from the beginning of hearing the gospel .

1 Peter 1 :9-11 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The veil representing the foreskin of Jesus our bloody husband Christ when torn from the top to the bottom signaled the glory that followed the words "it is finished" ( salvation) . . . the graves were opened and they enter the heavenly city of Christ prepared as the bride.

 

[Rhema]

in the use of the words, 'It', and 'His'.

These pronouns are translator interpretations, they are not substantive in the Hebrew. He, she, or it, is left undefined.

Rhema

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

God (Jehovah-Elohim) said to the serpent (Revelation 12:9, 14, 15 & 20:2; also 2 Corinthians 11:3) :-

'And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel.'
(Genesis 3:15)

Hello there,

What has struck me today about the verse above, are the words spoken to Satan (the serpent), 'Thy seed'.

Has anyone considered the fact that Satan has a 'seed', or progeny?

My thoughts go to the Lord's words spoken in John 8, which is worth reading as a backdrop to John 8:44.

'Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him.
When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar,
and the father of it.'

I would appreciate your thoughts.
Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris.

The word "seed" refers to the offspring....Fallen angels did have offspring...We call them Nephilim. But also....remember Jesus was talking to the Pharasees and He told them that they were after their father the devil....Two families on Earth....Gods family and Satans family....Gods offspring and Satans offspring...Seed. So then...Seed also refers to the followers, disciples, believers in one or the other.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Fallen angels did have offspring

this is not true = truth.


Bless you ....><>

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Greetings,



this is not true = truth.


Bless you ....><>

Mr Bear...How do you figure its not true, The fallen angels DID have offspring


Genesis 6

6 In time, when men began to multiply on earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.” 4 The N’filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.

(Maftir) 5 Adonai saw that the people on earth were very wicked, that all the imaginings of their hearts were always of evil only....

 

[Rhema]

Mr Bear...How do you figure its not true, The fallen angels DID have offspring


Genesis 6

6 In time, when men began to multiply on earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Adonai said, “My Spirit will not live in human beings forever, for they too are flesh; therefore their life span is to be 120 years.” 4 The N’filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.

(Maftir) 5 Adonai saw that the people on earth were very wicked, that all the imaginings of their hearts were always of evil only....

Fallen angels are sons of God ??

Well... that's news to God.

Rhema

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Fallen angels are sons of God ??

Well... that's news to God.

Rhema

In the old covenant yes...the angels were the sons of God. The term 'sons of God' applied to angels....and some fell. Actually..its news to YOU not to God.

 

[Rhema]

In the old covenant yes...the angels were the sons of God. The term 'sons of God' applied to angels....and some fell. Actually..its news to YOU not to God.

Do you just make this stuff up ?? Or do you have any actual scripture to support these ... uh ... claims?

No, I'm asking. What is your scriptural support ??

Thanks,
Rhema

Oh, and here's what JESUS said about angels... (fallen or otherwise) -

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.​

(Matthew 22:30 KJV)​

So heaven is then one big old orgy !! (Thanks for that. With Islam, you only get 72.)

 

[tv1984]

In the old covenant yes...the angels were the sons of God. The term 'sons of God' applied to angels....and some fell. Actually..its news to YOU not to God.

Tony Wilmeth did an outstanding exposition on his yt channel about this. The text does not countenance the 'fallen angel/hybrid' theory anywhere.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Tony Wilmeth did an outstanding exposition on his yt channel about this. The text does not countenance the 'fallen angel/hybrid' theory anywhere.

Uh huh....Who's Tony Wilmeth? And what makes him the expert? Do you only listen to people who agree with you? Listening to one of his raves now....Basically, right off, he's intimating that when believers crossed with unbelievers, giants were the result..... Giants came from crossing angels with humans...but you will believe what you want to believe, so I will not argue.

 

[tv1984]

Uh huh....Who's Tony Wilmeth? And what makes him the expert? Do you only listen to people who agree with you? Listening to one of his raves now....Basically, right off, he's intimating that when believers crossed with unbelievers, giants were the result..... Giants came from crossing angels with humans...but you will believe what you want to believe, so I will not argue.

It sounds like you found his channel. Make sure you follow along in your bible now