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Genesis 3: 1-6 and the Marxist Dialectic
"Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. " Genesis 3: 1-6
The serpent was more subtle than any beast in the field, meaning that Satan is deceptive. He invited Eve to have a dialogue with him in saying "Yea, hath God said, ye shall east of the tree of the garden." It was Eve's big mistake to engage in dialogue with the subtle serpent. When Satan tempted Christ in Matthew 4: 1-11, Christ did not dialogue with Satan. Instead Christ answered the devil by saying "It is written," and quoting scripture. Finally, in verse 11 Satan was defeated and left Christ.
Satan in his deceptiveness got Eve into a dialogue with him. Then he made arguments to Eve against the absolute authority of God, to lure her out of her obedience to God and to the truth of God. By the use of dialogue, he "freed" Eve of her righteousness in God. Like a facilitator in a 1960's encounter group, Satan made use of dialogue to "fix" Eve's faith in the absolute truth.
But he used dialogue in a particular way. The modern idea of the dialectic is attributed to the German philosopher George F. Hegel (1770-1831). The dialectic is an argument between two opposing ideas. In the Hegelian dialectic, a thesis, or one position, is opposed by a second position, called an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis, or a compromise.
Karl Marx (1818-1883), as a student of philosophy, was influenced by Hegel and his Hegelian dialectic, and as a young man Marx used Hegel's dialectical method to criticize society, politics, and Christianity from a leftist point of view.
Remember that Marxism talks about "dialectical materialism." In his "On the Question of Dialectics", Lenin said that "Development is the “ struggle ” of opposites." He stated that " The unity - coincidence, identity, equal action - of opposites is conditional, temporary, transitory, relative." That is, "development," or change toward a Marxist collectivist society, is created by the struggle of opposites, which is the dialectic process. And in Marxism all reality is limited to the material. There is no spiritual reality in Marxism, only man's flesh.
In Marxism there is no absolute truth of any kind, and no absolute morality All is conditional, temporary, transitory, and relative.as Lenin said.
"In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)
Benjamin Bloom, who wrote the two volume book on the Taxonomy
of Educational Goal Objectives, by which all teachers must be
certified, said "“We recognize the point of view that
truth and knowledge are only relative and that there are no hard and
fast truths which exist for all time and places.” (Benjamin Bloom, et
al., Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, Book 1, Cognitive Domain)
Benjamin Bloom was an educational psychologist and Transformational Marxist.
When Marxism took over the dialectic as a method for promoting Marxism, Marxists used the system as a way of arguing against that which is fixed, or that which is absolute. This meant for Marxists, who do not believe in God, a use of the dialectic as a way of undermining the absolutes of Biblical truth and Biblical morality - in attacking the family and Christianity. Theodore W. Adorno in his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality, said that the family and Christianity are the causes of fascism, and both must be done away with. Adorno was a member of the German Frankfurt School, run out of Nazi Germany to the U.S. where Arorno and a few other Frankfurters were given high level positions in the major universities of the U. S. from which they launched the American Transformational Marxism movement beginning in the fifties. That movement included the Marxist version of the Hegelian dialectic as a method for attitude, belief and behavior change.
Then in the period of the fifties to seventies in the U.S,, social psychologists in the Group Dynamics movement, and clinical shrinks and others in the Encounter Group movement perfected the Marxist dialectic as a method for changing attitudes, beliefs and behavior. This is the form of the dialectic that was popularized and which seeped into the major institutions of American society and then into the churches and to the Christian seminaries.
Dispensationalism is a tradition of men which disagrees with some New Testament scriptures. We can see how the dispensationalists have been using a method of argument much like the Marxist dialectic as a way of trying to compromise the absolute truth of the word of God to fit their theology.. Since the use of the dialectic is popular now, people with other theologies also use a form of the dialectic to promote and defend their positions. But - are they attacking an absolute truth in scripture? This is the key to identifying whether they are using the popular Marxist dialectic, which is a procedure for overthrowing that which is absolute, either absolute truth or absolute morality.
Genesis 3: 1-6 provides a very brief verbatim account of the use of the dialectic to overthrow the absolute authority of God.
There are specific <cite></cite>kind<cite>s of argumentative </cite><cite></cite> procedures used now by followers of dispensationalism to defend their theology. Some of these are avoiding a direct argument when certain New Testament scriptures are quoted as disagreeing with dispensatrionalism, and instead making use of a different argument, or side stepping the scripture quoted, attacking the person who is defending scripture,quoting one verse in a text which in its whole does not say what the one verse is claimed to say, and etc. Sometimes a dispensationalist will quote scriptures that he claims support the theology when in fact they do not do so.
"Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. " Genesis 3: 1-6
The serpent was more subtle than any beast in the field, meaning that Satan is deceptive. He invited Eve to have a dialogue with him in saying "Yea, hath God said, ye shall east of the tree of the garden." It was Eve's big mistake to engage in dialogue with the subtle serpent. When Satan tempted Christ in Matthew 4: 1-11, Christ did not dialogue with Satan. Instead Christ answered the devil by saying "It is written," and quoting scripture. Finally, in verse 11 Satan was defeated and left Christ.
Satan in his deceptiveness got Eve into a dialogue with him. Then he made arguments to Eve against the absolute authority of God, to lure her out of her obedience to God and to the truth of God. By the use of dialogue, he "freed" Eve of her righteousness in God. Like a facilitator in a 1960's encounter group, Satan made use of dialogue to "fix" Eve's faith in the absolute truth.
But he used dialogue in a particular way. The modern idea of the dialectic is attributed to the German philosopher George F. Hegel (1770-1831). The dialectic is an argument between two opposing ideas. In the Hegelian dialectic, a thesis, or one position, is opposed by a second position, called an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis, or a compromise.
Karl Marx (1818-1883), as a student of philosophy, was influenced by Hegel and his Hegelian dialectic, and as a young man Marx used Hegel's dialectical method to criticize society, politics, and Christianity from a leftist point of view.
Remember that Marxism talks about "dialectical materialism." In his "On the Question of Dialectics", Lenin said that "Development is the “ struggle ” of opposites." He stated that " The unity - coincidence, identity, equal action - of opposites is conditional, temporary, transitory, relative." That is, "development," or change toward a Marxist collectivist society, is created by the struggle of opposites, which is the dialectic process. And in Marxism all reality is limited to the material. There is no spiritual reality in Marxism, only man's flesh.
In Marxism there is no absolute truth of any kind, and no absolute morality All is conditional, temporary, transitory, and relative.as Lenin said.
"In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)
Benjamin Bloom, who wrote the two volume book on the Taxonomy
of Educational Goal Objectives, by which all teachers must be
certified, said "“We recognize the point of view that
truth and knowledge are only relative and that there are no hard and
fast truths which exist for all time and places.” (Benjamin Bloom, et
al., Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, Book 1, Cognitive Domain)
Benjamin Bloom was an educational psychologist and Transformational Marxist.
When Marxism took over the dialectic as a method for promoting Marxism, Marxists used the system as a way of arguing against that which is fixed, or that which is absolute. This meant for Marxists, who do not believe in God, a use of the dialectic as a way of undermining the absolutes of Biblical truth and Biblical morality - in attacking the family and Christianity. Theodore W. Adorno in his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality, said that the family and Christianity are the causes of fascism, and both must be done away with. Adorno was a member of the German Frankfurt School, run out of Nazi Germany to the U.S. where Arorno and a few other Frankfurters were given high level positions in the major universities of the U. S. from which they launched the American Transformational Marxism movement beginning in the fifties. That movement included the Marxist version of the Hegelian dialectic as a method for attitude, belief and behavior change.
Then in the period of the fifties to seventies in the U.S,, social psychologists in the Group Dynamics movement, and clinical shrinks and others in the Encounter Group movement perfected the Marxist dialectic as a method for changing attitudes, beliefs and behavior. This is the form of the dialectic that was popularized and which seeped into the major institutions of American society and then into the churches and to the Christian seminaries.
Dispensationalism is a tradition of men which disagrees with some New Testament scriptures. We can see how the dispensationalists have been using a method of argument much like the Marxist dialectic as a way of trying to compromise the absolute truth of the word of God to fit their theology.. Since the use of the dialectic is popular now, people with other theologies also use a form of the dialectic to promote and defend their positions. But - are they attacking an absolute truth in scripture? This is the key to identifying whether they are using the popular Marxist dialectic, which is a procedure for overthrowing that which is absolute, either absolute truth or absolute morality.
Genesis 3: 1-6 provides a very brief verbatim account of the use of the dialectic to overthrow the absolute authority of God.
There are specific <cite></cite>kind<cite>s of argumentative </cite><cite></cite> procedures used now by followers of dispensationalism to defend their theology. Some of these are avoiding a direct argument when certain New Testament scriptures are quoted as disagreeing with dispensatrionalism, and instead making use of a different argument, or side stepping the scripture quoted, attacking the person who is defending scripture,quoting one verse in a text which in its whole does not say what the one verse is claimed to say, and etc. Sometimes a dispensationalist will quote scriptures that he claims support the theology when in fact they do not do so.
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