Gay : The final sign

[Bethel]

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In the last 18 yrs, All over this world i have taught that the final sign we are to recognize as the last one before the Rapture, is this.

"Gay rights"
"Gay Adoption"
"Transgender"
"Homosexual acceptance, as normal"
"Gay Marriage".

Now, some believers, who are very worldly, have issues with the idea that God despises Gay sexuality. They feel that God is all inclusive, and that He is always Tolerant, and that we are all "God's children".
This is false.
We are all God's creation, but to become God's SON of God//Daughter of God...., you "must be born again".

Reader, i assure you that God is merciful to all sinners, but He hates Gay sexuality.
God hates it.
Why? Because its a spiritual inner darkness that infects people who are not homosexual and it seduces them INTO this lifestyle of sexual perversion.
Homosexuality is a spiritual infection that manifests as all types of Gay sexual behavior.
And if you think that Transgenders are not homosexual, then you are deceived..

If you read your bible and believe it, then you will note that God burned homosexuality in Sodom, and drowned it worldwide under Noah's Ark.
That's what God was doing, reader. He was getting RID of this perverted sexuality, because it spreads like a spiritual cancer from homosexual person to heterosexual person.

Homosexuals do no reproduce....they recruit.

Right now, outside your window, nearly worldwide, you have "Gay rights" and "Gay adoption". Gay Marriage
And i can't think of anything that would offend God more than 2 homosexuals being given children, to turn into homosexuals.
And if you think this is not what 2 gay men are doing to their adopted baby boys, then your brain is on wrong and your spirituality is turned off.
Thats a fact.

Listen up....
Look at photo below. This is a Country Music Star... in the USA. '2022. She is on the LEFT.
She and her "husband", the woman on the right......have adopted 2 girls.
Notice the 2 little girls..
You can see that the youngest who they are holding.... looks like a boy, as they are turning that one into the BUTCH, or the "husband" or "male" homosexual...and they are turning the older into the submissive or "wife"... which is why she looks like a girl.

God burned these in Genesis, and drowned them.
He didnt ask them about their feelings or about their rights.
Understand?
This is not a myth.
God is HOLY.....and this has not CHANGED since before Genesis. All that has changed is that everyone is invited to the Cross to be born again, and become God's family.

This is not "hate speech"... This is the end times, when the last sign is this..
"as in the days of Noah".....
See that? That is telling you that when you see in the world, what Noah saw all around, then be sure that Jesus is coming SOON.

Click on the Link below.... then click on the photo.

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https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/...1/1658277/brandy-carlile-kb-inline-210106.jpg

 

[Samson2020]

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In the last 18 yrs, All over this world i have taught that the final sign we are to recognize as the last one before the Rapture, is this.

"Gay rights"
"Gay Adoption"
"Transgender"
"Homosexual acceptance, as normal"
"Gay Marriage".

Now, some believers, who are very worldly, have issues with the idea that God despises Gay sexuality. They feel that God is all inclusive, and that He is always Tolerant, and that we are all "God's children".
This is false.
We are all God's creation, but to become God's SON of God//Daughter of God...., you "must be born again".

Reader, i assure you that God is merciful to all sinners, but He hates Gay sexuality.
God hates it.
Why? Because its a spiritual inner darkness that infects people who are not homosexual and it seduces them INTO this lifestyle of sexual perversion.
Homosexuality is a spiritual infection that manifests as all types of Gay sexual behavior.
And if you think that Transgenders are not homosexual, then you are deceived..

If you read your bible and believe it, then you will note that God burned homosexuality in Sodom, and drowned it worldwide under Noah's Ark.
That's what God was doing, reader. He was getting RID of this perverted sexuality, because it spreads like a spiritual cancer from homosexual person to heterosexual person.

Homosexuals do no reproduce....they recruit.

Right now, outside your window, nearly worldwide, you have "Gay rights" and "Gay adoption". Gay Marriage
And i can't think of anything that would offend God more than 2 homosexuals being given children, to turn into homosexuals.
And if you think this is not what 2 gay men are doing to their adopted baby boys, then your brain is on wrong and your spirituality is turned off.
Thats a fact.

Listen up....
Look at photo below. This is a Country Music Star... in the USA. '2022. She is on the LEFT.
She and her "husband", the woman on the right......have adopted 2 girls.
Notice the 2 little girls..
You can see that the youngest who they are holding.... looks like a boy, as they are turning that one into the BUTCH, or the "husband" or "male" homosexual...and they are turning the older into the submissive or "wife"... which is why she looks like a girl.

God burned these in Genesis, and drowned them.
He didnt ask them about their feelings or about their rights.
Understand?
This is not a myth.
God is HOLY.....and this has not CHANGED since before Genesis. All that has changed is that everyone is invited to the Cross to be born again, and become God's family.

This is not "hate speech"... This is the end times, when the last sign is this..
"as in the days of Noah".....
See that? That is telling you that when you see in the world, what Noah saw all around, then be sure that Jesus is coming SOON.

Click on the Link below.... then click on the photo.

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https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/...1/1658277/brandy-carlile-kb-inline-210106.jpg

One might say, that we, before being born again, were practicing spiritual homosexuality in that we could not produce a son of God from within us as we never KNEW the one who could
provide the seed. And only Jesus can provide it, not the Father of sin.
So is it possible that God is showing the amplitude of spiritual homosexuality through the openness and amplitude of the physical homosexuality?

Just an observation!

 

[Bethel]

One might say, that we, before being born again, were practicing spiritual homosexuality

Homosexuality is same gender sex.
Men with men.
Women with women.
Its the sex ACT = regarding same gender sex, that is what defines "homosexual".
Doing that.

 

[Phedup]

Why? Because its a spiritual inner darkness that infects people who are not homosexual and it seduces them INTO this lifestyle of sexual perversion.
Homosexuality is a spiritual infection that manifests as all types of Gay sexual behavior.

Where does God say that?

But that is a great point, where does God actually say why he hates homosexuality?

And seriously, gays represent a small fraction of the population. Over 50% of Evangelicals divorce, much more than atheists, yet they have no issues to commonly repeat this sin. Wouldn't you get more bang for your buck if you approached this?

God burned homosexuality in Sodom

That is false, God did not destroy Sodom for homosexuality. "My people perish for lack of knowledge." "The gentiles mock me because of you."

 

[Bethel]

That is false, God did not destroy Sodom for homosexuality. "My people perish for lack of knowledge." "The gentiles mock me because of you."

Your verse is not related to what God did to sexual perverts in Sodom and also in the Flood.
Also, those were not God's people.

Listen up...

My home is in Israel.
Ive been to Sodom & G.
Its a real place... Its a LITERAL place.
And in the rock there is the burned black ash from the burning that happened to those sexual = perverts.
Thats a fact.
This is not a joke.

If you own a bible then read it........and you'll note that the people of S&G wanted Lot to send out the 2 male angels.
Why?
Because these sexual perverts who made up the city wanted to "KNOW THEM">

This means....>rape, fornicate, molest".

That is what these homosexuals wanted to do to those 2 male angles.
What was God's response?
He burned those sexual perverts into black ash, and you can see it today.

Phedup, .....You should take a tour of Israel, and go there..
You'll find out something about God that you have not understood yet.
Be sure to pass this information along to your friends who have you confused.

 

[Waggles]

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

1Cor 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[Waggles]

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,
21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Waggles]

Ephesians 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints.
4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.
5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

 

[Phedup]

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Paul also quotes David where he says "all are unrighteous", so, everyone goes to hell?

Also, I linked a web address for the historical Jewish interpretation of the Lev. verse but it is holding my reply for moderator approval.

Are you not suppose to link web addresses?

 

[Bethel]

And seriously, gays represent a small fraction of the population. Over 50% of Evangelicals divorce,

Read Romans 1, especially the last 15 verses.

Also
God never burned a city because of "divorce".......but He did burn one because of Gay Sex obsession, that you are defending.
God never flooded out the entire human race, except for Noah and Family, because of divorce, but He did destroy every human being because of sexual (homosexual) perversion, in all its manifestations.

Homosexuals don't reproduce, they just RECRUIT.

 

[Waggles]

Paul also quotes David where he says "all are unrighteous", so, everyone goes to hell?

1Cor 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Repentance and turning away from evil is what the gospel is about.

 

[Phedup]

Repentance and turning away from evil is what the gospel is about.

Absolutely! It is not about judging other's sin or not sin,

So, are you a works kind of person? People are judged to heaven and hell by what they say and do i.e. homosexuality?

 

[Phedup]

1Cor 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 John 3:6 No one who abides in him sins; no one who sins has either seen him or known him.

I mean, it is common for Christians to say that everyone sins, but here it says that anyone who sins does not know Jesus. Weird eh? I mean, if everyone sins, and James tells us that there is no lesser sin than another, then none of us are "Christians" right? And no one can be, given this criteria.

 

[Waggles]

So, are you a works kind of person? People are judged to heaven and hell by what they say and do i.e. homosexuality?

And all their other sins.
Note that in scripture when Jesus and the apostles list sins, it is not just sexuality.
Matthew 15:18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person.
19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander.

Mark 7:20 And he said [that], What proceedeth out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil reasonings, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,
22 covetings, wickednesses, guile, lasciviousness, an evil eye, railing, pride, foolishness:
23 all these evils proceed from within, and defile the man.

This is why a person must be born from above by water and Spirit so they can be set free from their sinful past life, and then walk in the Spirit to overcome ALL sinful desires of our carnal selves.

 

[Andyindauk]

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Hi Bethel, I'm not being deliberately provocative here but that's pretty much how I feel I really don't believe that God has a problem with gay sexuality. That said the Bible is unequivocal , God dislikes the gay sex act rather than the person. In the same way, God loves the adulterer but He hates adultery, arguably more than gay sex because Jesus said far more about adultery than gay sex. I personally don't hold with that; God hates all sin, sin is black, not shades of grey. Sin is sin is sin. I truly believe that God loves literally everyone. To say that God has a problem with gay sexuality is to say that gays are somehow beyond redemption which is to say that Jesus's victory has limits - it has no limits.

Now, some believers, who are very worldly, have issues with the idea that God despises Gay sexuality. They feel that God is all inclusive, and that He is always Tolerant, and that we are all "God's children".
This is false.
We are all God's creation, but to become God's SON of God//Daughter of God...., you "must be born again".

 

[Waggles]

God does indeed detest all sin and unrighteousness, but not all sins are described by God as an abomination before him.
Lev 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Strong's > H8441 תֹּעֵבַה תּוֹעֵבַה tô‛êbah tô‛êbah
Feminine active participle of H8581; properly something disgusting (morally), that is, (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable (custom, thing), abomination.
BDB Definition:
1) a disgusting thing, abomination, abominable
1a) in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed marriages)
1b) in ethical sense (of wickedness etc)

 

[Waggles]

Lev 18:24 “Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean,
25 and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.
26 But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you
27 (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean),
28 lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.
29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people. [ESV]

 

[Phedup]

Lev 18:24 “Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean,
25 and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.
26 But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you
27 (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean),
28 lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.
29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people. [ESV]

Hi Waggles,

About 3 or 4 of my replies have disappeared after the maintanence that were waiting for moderator approval.

According to the Judiasm website I linked the Lev, references to homosexuality are a deliberate mistranslation. Where 18 and 20 describe homosexuality, according to the Jewish website it is properly translated where a man and a man gang rape a woman. Sex wasn't taboo like it is now until the New Testament where gnositc influences of the flesh being evil crept in.

I am not gay nor do I know any gays. I really don't have a bone in this fight. I just think it is so hypacrital to jump up and down and judge gays when "Christians" disregard the law so flagramtly. Eveyone will answer for what they do. Gays are suck a tiny fraction of the population. "Christian" sin is the log in the eye.

 

[Waggles]

I just think it is so hypocritical to jump up and down and judge gays when "Christians" disregard the law so flagrantly. Everyone will answer for what they do. Gays are suck a tiny fraction of the population. "Christian" sin is the log in the eye.

While I do agree with you on this
The claim that the original Hebrew scriptures are a deliberate mistranslation is most improbable - highly speculative, and typical of scoffers who want to disobey the word of God.
There are thousands of ancient Hebrew texts of different ages held in many different libraries and institutions. You would have to prove that someone got to all of them and altered the wording.
Evidence??
Also the ancient Jewish scribes held the word of God with a very high religious esteem and took great academic rigour in copying the words and accents from text to text.
The oldest manuscript of the book of Isiah (from the time of John the Baptist) shows that 2,000 years later Hebrew manuscripts are still near perfect copies.

 

[Phedup]

The claim that the original Hebrew scriptures are a deliberate mistranslation is most improbable -

Not really. There are no original Hebrew scriptures. And, Hebrew is not what you find in the KJV. What Jesus and the disciples used for scripture is closer aligned with the greek septuagint than the what is in the hebrew
masoretic text that makes up your bible. The Jews had taboos against adultry, incest, and beastiality. Otherwise sex was good. It was not until the New Testament with the gentile gnostic influence of "all flesh is bad" philosophy did sex become bad.

Also the ancient Jewish scribes held the word of God with a very high religious esteem and took great academic rigour in copying the words and accents from text to text.

Yes they did. But errors still occured. And about 30% of the bible has textual variations (not including minor scribe errors) from earlier manuscripts that have theological significance.

The oldest manuscript of the book of Isiah (from the time of John the Baptist) shows that 2,000 years later Hebrew manuscripts are still near perfect copies.

Look up dead sea scroll isaiah. The scroll of Isaiah found in the dead sea scrolls more closely matches the greek septuagint than the masoretic and the scroll differs from the masoretic.

Also the ancient Jewish scribes held the word of God with a very high religious esteem and took great academic rigour in copying the words and accents from text to text.

Yes, I believe that is true also. However, hebrew was a dead language for a very long time. The written word did not include vowels, puncutation, or influctions. When the Jews were taken from their land and later returned the rift between them and the Samaritans was due to the fact that the Samaritans did not believe the returning Jews practices the orginal religion correctly.