False Teaching - Calvinism

[KingJ]

Calvinism is false teaching for these reasons:

<<Whilst the belief is false, it does not mean that all Calvinists are bad or insincere!>>

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1. It Contradicts God's Universal Love and Desire to Save All People​

Calvinism teaches that God only loves and died for the “elect”—a select group He chose to save before the foundation of the world. However, Scripture repeatedly affirms that God desires all people to be saved, not just a predetermined few:

• 1 Timothy 2:3–4: “God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
• 2 Peter 3:9: “The Lord… is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.”
• John 3:16: “For God so loved the world…”

These verses conflict with the Calvinist claim that God only chooses to save some and deliberately passes over the rest.

2. It Makes God the Author of Evil​

In Calvinism, everything happens according to God’s sovereign decree, including sin, rebellion, and damnation. But if God ordains all things—including the fall, unbelief, and even eternal punishment—then He effectively causes sin and evil, while still punishing people for doing what He ordained.

This contradicts the Bible’s own teaching:

• James 1:13: “God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.”
• Habakkuk 1:13: “Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; You cannot tolerate wrongdoing.”

Calvinism tries to separate God’s “decree” from His “moral will,” but this creates a logical and moral contradiction.

3. It Denies Human Responsibility and Free Will​

Calvinism teaches “total depravity” and “irresistible grace”, which mean humans cannot respond to God unless they’re chosen and regenerated first. But if that’s true, then God commands repentance and faith from people who are incapable of responding—then condemns them for not responding.

This makes human responsibility meaningless, yet Scripture clearly affirms that people are genuinely accountable for rejecting God:

• Romans 1:20: “People are without excuse.”
• Acts 17:30: “God now commands all people everywhere to repent.”

If God commands all to repent, but only enables a few, that command is either disingenuous or unjust.

4. It Twists the Nature of the Gospel​

Calvinism teaches limited atonement—that Jesus died only for the elect, not for the whole world. But this contradicts many clear passages:

• 1 John 2:2: “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.”
• Hebrews 2:9: “…so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.”
• 2 Corinthians 5:14–15: “One died for all, and therefore all died.”

The gospel is meant to be good news for everyone, not a limited offer for a secret group.

5. It Damages Evangelism and Assurance​

If God has already decided who will be saved and who won’t, then evangelism becomes unnecessary or even deceptive. Why call people to respond to a message they may be incapable of responding to?

Additionally, Calvinism teaches that assurance of salvation is based on being one of the elect—but since no one can be 100% sure they're elect, it can create fear, doubt, and spiritual anxiety.

 

[Curtis]

Does God know everyone who will be saved before they are born? Absolutely yes!!
Does that mean man has no free will to choose life or death! Absolutely no!
Is man responsible for his own free will choices? Yes!
Can a man come to Jesus if he has never heard or been taught of God? No way!
Who is the one who first initiates contact with God. God himself!
What is man’s responsibilities? Man is to respond to God using his God given free will choice.
Does God know every choice you make before you make them? Yes!
Does God know every word that will come out of your mouth before you speak? Yes!,

 

[KingJ]

Does God know everyone who will be saved before they are born? Absolutely yes!!

False. If He wills all to be saved, He does not know.

If knowing something can be proven to be evil, He does not know it. God is righteous in all His ways Psalm 145:17.That truth dictates what items can be known / His omniscience.

Just as... God limits His omnipotence (all powerful) to allow something He utterly hates (evil) to take place, to allow for true free will.

Does that mean man has no free will to choose life or death! Absolutely no!

It would actually. God is the creator of all and if He created you knowing that you would die and burn in hell from birth, that would be only an appearance of free will.

Is man responsible for his own free will choices? Yes!

Yes. 1 / 8 right.

Can a man come to Jesus if he has never heard or been taught of God? No way!

False.

All God has wanted from mankind from day 1 to today is hatred of what is evil Rom 12:9 that leads to a repentance of sin Psalm 51:17, Luke 5:32, true servitude James 1:27 and martyrdom Rev 6:10.

He has given all mankind the knowledge of good and evil Gen 3:22 and created us with accountability by creating us in His image and just beneath the angels Heb 2:7.

Practical example of the silliness of your statement:

If I brutally kill your child in front of you, you need God to tell you that it is evil before you try stop me?

God did not give you EYES to see, EARS to hear, BRAIN matter to grasp your child SCREAMING and CRYING in pain?

You cannot make a sillier statement. Before Jesus, before Christianity people got themselves into Abrahams' bosom / paradise by repenting of their sins.

Who is the one who first initiates contact with God. God himself!

More error.

James 4:8 is crystal clear that God draws near to those who draw near to Him and we draw near to Him by washing our hands and purifying our hearts.

James 4:8 Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

What is man’s responsibilities? Man is to respond to God using his God given free will choice.

Incorrect.

We only respond to Jesus because He taught repentance of sin. If He taught, hate your neighbor, good people would not respond to Him.

Does God know every choice you make before you make them? Yes!

That is your inserted assumption about God because you grasp the dictionary definition of the word 'omniscience'.

If knowing something can be proven to be evil, He does not know it, no. God is righteous in all His ways Psalm 145:17.That truth dictates what items can be known / His omniscience.

Just as... God limits His omnipotence (all powerful) to allow something He utterly hates (evil) to take place, to allow for true free will.

Does God know every word that will come out of your mouth before you speak? Yes!,

How do you know God so well?

Tell me, where does He come from, who made Him?

You are teaching us about God from your dictionary and not from scripture.

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As is becoming way to common, Calvinists like to dance around accusations of their belief. Not one line of yours deals with the OP.

Do you not care that your belief incriminates God? Yes or No answer please......

I will go grab lots of popcorn as I know I will not get that.....

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I have to ask, and this is going to sound rude, but do you think you are talking to stupid people?

Do you really not understand that 1. Calvinism pushes partiality, 2. Partiality is pure is evil and 3. God is not evil?

Please stop dancing and be intellectually honest!

 

[Curtis]

Curtis said:
Does God know everyone who will be saved before they are born? Absolutely yes!!

False. If He wills all to be saved, He does not know.

I am sorry for you to be serving a "limited" God who has no limit!

 

[B-A-C]

How do we reconcile verses like...

Isa 46:9 "Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure';
Isa 46:11 Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man of My purpose from a far country. Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass. I have planned it, surely I will do it.

Psa 139:3 You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.
Psa 139:4 Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O LORD, You know it all.
Psa 139:5 You have enclosed me behind and before, And laid Your hand upon me.
Psa 139:6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; It is too high, I cannot attain to it.

Psa 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.

Which brings us back to...

Exod 32:32 "But now, if You will, forgive their sin—and if not, please blot me out from Your book which You have written!"
Exod 32:33 The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.

Rev 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Psa 69:27 Add iniquity to their iniquity, And may they not come into Your righteousness.
Psa 69:28 May they be blotted out of the book of life And may they not be recorded with the righteous.

I have asked the question before... but was this part of God's plan?

Gen 6:5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

Can humans change God's mind about something?

Exod 32:13 "Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants to whom You swore by Yourself, and said to them, 'I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land of which I have spoken I will give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever.'"
Exod 32:14 So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people.

This goes back to the "real time" argument. Perhaps God isn't subject to time. But we are. We cannot deny that time exists.
God created time for a reason. The Bible says God "waits" until the time is right to do certain things.

He doesn't erase your name before you sin. He may know the future.. but He doesn't grade your test before you take the test.

 

[B-A-C]

2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

1Tim 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

But even though this is what God wants.... Jesus says...

Matt 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
Matt 7:14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

If it God's will that all be saved, and none should perish... then why is it that "many" will go to destruction, and "few" will go to life?

If God is completely sovereign, and doesn't allow for free-will... how can this happen?

 

[Curtis]

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

It is interesting to note that man is not saved by any choice he makes to receive Jesus, yet his choice is connected to salvation. In the same way, "works" does not save anyone, yet works are connected to faith. Salvation is always born of the will of God.

Receiving Jesus requires a choice to be made, and the results of that choice, "power," is given to that person. But power alone can not give a person eternal life; it only gives that person the "right" to become a son of God. The power and the right are "faith." Receiving the Word gives faith, but faith alone can not give eternal life either.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Everyone who has been born of God is born by "grace" through "faith", which is the gift of God, not by man's choice, even though man's choice is connected to salvation; but his choice did not save him.

The power of "faith" only gives man the "right" to gain access to "grace" by which a man can become a son of God.

Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[KingJ]

Curtis said:
Does God know everyone who will be saved before they are born? Absolutely yes!!

I am sorry for you to be serving a "limited" God who has no limit!

There are truths to God that we will not grasp from a dictionary and grey matter between our ears.

Scripture clearly teaches us that God chooses to be good in all He does. He limits His omnipotence to allow evil to take place as free will is a requirement of a God who wants to be good. As such, many scriptures teach us that He also limits His omniscience, for the same reason.

I am shocked that you are:

1. Fine with serving an evil God.
2. Do not care that you teach God to the lost from a dictionary and not scripture.

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You need to meditate on Psalm 145:17, Job 34:12 and Matt 18:6 and stop misrepresenting God as a monster to the lost.

Psalm 145:17 God is righteous in all His ways.

Job 34:12 It is unthinkable that God would do wrong, that the Almighty would pervert justice.

Matt 18:6 If anyone causes one of these little ones those who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

 

[KingJ]

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

God only gifts salvation / power to become sons of God, to the whomsoever repents of their sins.

Rev 3:20 and James 4:8 are clear on this.

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.

James 4:8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double minded.

It is interesting to note that man is not saved by any choice he makes to receive Jesus, yet his choice is connected to salvation. In the same way, "works" does not save anyone, yet works are connected to faith. Salvation is always born of the will of God.

I repeat, all those in the OT got themselves saved from hell.

There are two types of salvation. One gets us into Abrahams bosom / paradise. A place out of heaven but not in fire.

Jesus offers us true salvation. Union with God in heaven.

The criteria for both are OUR repentance of sin. Luke 5:32 - I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

The reason you do not accept this is because Calvinists tear Luke 16:19-31 and many more scriptures from their bible.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Yes, only Jesus can unite us with God, as explained above.

You are trying to make this verse say more than it does. Sorry dude, this verse does not over ride a verse like James 4:8 and Rev 3:20.

You are teaching falsely.

The power of "faith" only gives man the "right" to gain access to "grace" by which a man can become a son of God.

What a load of croc.

Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Saving faith to believe Jesus is Lord is given Rom 12:3, 1 Cor 12:3 to those who repent of their sins and pass God's judgement of their heart and mind.

You are yet again making a single verse say more than it is supposed to. Please stop doing this. It is false teaching.

Rom 12:3 - Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.

1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Jer 17:9-10 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it? “I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve.”

Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Once you pass His test, you are made a new creation.

You teach CART before HORSE. That is false teaching.

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I can understand why many are Calvinists. It is a nice feeling to think you are special.

It is not enough that all are special to God. You must be extra special, right?

 

[B-A-C]

Irresistable..??

1Thes 4:8 So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

Acts 7:51 "You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.

1. Isaiah 63:10
   “But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit; therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy, He fought against them.”
   — Israel resisted and grieved the Spirit, showing that even God's chosen people can rebel.
2. Jeremiah 7:24
   “Yet they did not obey or incline their ear, but walked in their own counsels and in the stubbornness of their evil heart, and went backward and not forward.”
   — A clear picture of resisting God's guidance.
3. Zechariah 7:11–12
   “But they refused to pay attention and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing. They made their hearts like flint…”
   — This shows deliberate resistance to the Spirit and the prophets.

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1. Matthew 23:37
   “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together... and you were unwilling.”
   — Jesus laments over their resistance to God's call.
2. Romans 10:21
   “But as for Israel He says, ‘All day long I have stretched out My hands to a disobedient and obstinate people.’”
   — God’s grace is extended, but not always received.
3. Hebrews 3:7–8
   “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as when they provoked Me in the wilderness.”
   — A warning not to resist the Spirit as Israel did.
4. 2 Peter 2:21
   “For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them.”
   — This implies that people can know the truth and still reject it.

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These verses strongly support the idea that God’s grace and Spirit can be resisted,

 

[Curtis]

“no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account” (Heb. 4:13; cf. 2 Chron. 16:9; Job 28:24; Matt. 10:29–30).

God also knows the future, for he is the one who can say, “I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done” (Isa. 46:9–10; cf. 42:8–9 and frequent passages in the Old Testament prophets)

. He knows the tiny details of every one of our lives, for Jesus tells us, “Your Father knows what you need before you ask him” (Matt. 6:8), and “Even the hairs of your head are all numbered” (Matt. 10:30). In Psalm 139 David reflects on the amazing detail of God’s knowledge of our lives. He knows our actions and thoughts: “O LORD, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar” (Ps. 139:1–2). He knows the words we will say before they are spoken: “Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O LORD, you know it altogether” (Ps. 139:4). And he knows all the days of our lives even before we are born

: “Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them” (Ps. 139:16). c. God Knows All Things Possible. The definition of God’s knowledge given above also specifies that God knows “all things possible.” This is because there are some instances in Scripture where God gives information about events that might happen but that do not actually come to pass.

Similarly, Jesus could state that Tyre and Sidon would have repented if Jesus’ own miracles had been done there in former days: “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes” (Matt. 11:21). Similarly, he says, “And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day” (Matt. 11:23)

 

[KingJ]

“no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account” (Heb. 4:13; cf. 2 Chron. 16:9; Job 28:24; Matt. 10:29–30).

God also knows the future, for he is the one who can say, “I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done” (Isa. 46:9–10; cf. 42:8–9 and frequent passages in the Old Testament prophets)

. He knows the tiny details of every one of our lives, for Jesus tells us, “Your Father knows what you need before you ask him” (Matt. 6:8), and “Even the hairs of your head are all numbered” (Matt. 10:30). In Psalm 139 David reflects on the amazing detail of God’s knowledge of our lives. He knows our actions and thoughts: “O LORD, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar” (Ps. 139:1–2). He knows the words we will say before they are spoken: “Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O LORD, you know it altogether” (Ps. 139:4). And he knows all the days of our lives even before we are born

: “Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them” (Ps. 139:16). c. God Knows All Things Possible. The definition of God’s knowledge given above also specifies that God knows “all things possible.” This is because there are some instances in Scripture where God gives information about events that might happen but that do not actually come to pass.

Similarly, Jesus could state that Tyre and Sidon would have repented if Jesus’ own miracles had been done there in former days: “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes” (Matt. 11:21). Similarly, he says, “And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day” (Matt. 11:23)

I hope you don't expect a reply to this. You are repeatedly rebutted and just keep moving the goal posts.

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I wish Calvinists would be honest and start all posts with ''I believe God has a monstrously evil side to Him. He is truly partial and unjust. But I still gladly serve Him, as He is God''.