slimsavery
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Happy Easter
would you all mind if i asked another question?
well, here goes.
Around 1999 I used to go out with a girl who was born again. I ( for a while ) went to church services with her and i think at that time i said the prayer of salvation. I say think. That may sound strange but I know I became close to God at that time. Anyway we split up and I went travelling for a year and a half. I came back and got involved with a good new proffesion. Throughout this time I never lost faith in God, and used to pray at times. But i really didnt go much further than this. I guess you could say I was a beliver ( without a doubt, I knew, loved, and prayed to god but didnt understand much about the bible or christian life as a whole, i knew who jesus was, what he did for me but all of the time when praying ot was to God and not Jesus) but at that time not living the most christian of lifes untill about 2 years ago. At this time i got a bit unwell, and at time felt a lot of guilt. i found my self saying the prayer of salvation again ( quite a lot ), Like i have said before i wasnt sure if i had said it before in 1999. This took me into reading the bible every day, joining a church - im still looking for one I`m comfertable in, but i feel im really getting places, praying every day. Sometimes i get scared though. Reading wesley bible commentry heberew 6..6
"6And have fallen away - Here is not a supposition, but a plain relation of fact. The apostle here describes the case of those who have cast away both the power and the form of godliness; who have lost both their faith, hope, and love, Heb 6:10, &c., and that wilfully, Heb 10:26. Of these wilful total apostates he declares, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance. (though they were renewed once,) either to the foundation, or anything built thereon. Seeing they crucify the Son of God afresh - They use him with the utmost indignity. And put him to an open shame - Causing his glorious name to be blasphemed. "
" heb.10.26For when we - Any of us Christians. Sin wilfully - By total apostasy from God, termed "drawing back," Heb 10:38. After having received the experimental knowledge of the gospel truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins - None but that which we obstinately reject."
what worries me is that i may have done this sin(s) if i did say the prayer of salvation in 1999. Could I have then fallen away and tried to come back? Having drawn back after having recieved the emperimental knowledge of the gospel truth? id like to think not - in that i know I belived and had faith and loved god. and somethimes I prayed. If im honest I think it has just taken me longer that it should have to " see the light " and each day i feel I am getting moulded into a better and better person. I dont think i fell away as such or drew back, or didnt let gods power change me - ie dening or defing it- i just took a while to undertstand things and to further being changed, from a position i had been in for a while. I guess at times God was silient and so was I. Got Questions explains this well "
In our walk as born again believers it may seem that God is silent but God is never silent. What looks like silence and inactivity to us is God allowing us the opportunity to listen to "the still small voice" and to see the provisions that He has made for us by faith.
Therefore, as born again believers, when God seems silent to us it may mean that we have either stopped listening to His voice, we have allowed the cares of this world to plug our spiritual ears or we have neglected His word. God does not speak to us today in signs, wonders, fire or wind, His Spirit speaks to us through the Word and in that Word we have the "words of life."I think I took time to devlop.
could someone , if they have time try to help me here. Im off on holiday on friday night, and to be honest im a little worried about have i tried to come back? after being renewed once? As i read this back it makes more sense that I am going to be oK as i never actually fell away from God as a beliver? and after all John wesley was just a man so perhaps im interpreting this all in the wrong way ( again! )
God Bless
:embarasse
would you all mind if i asked another question?
well, here goes.
Around 1999 I used to go out with a girl who was born again. I ( for a while ) went to church services with her and i think at that time i said the prayer of salvation. I say think. That may sound strange but I know I became close to God at that time. Anyway we split up and I went travelling for a year and a half. I came back and got involved with a good new proffesion. Throughout this time I never lost faith in God, and used to pray at times. But i really didnt go much further than this. I guess you could say I was a beliver ( without a doubt, I knew, loved, and prayed to god but didnt understand much about the bible or christian life as a whole, i knew who jesus was, what he did for me but all of the time when praying ot was to God and not Jesus) but at that time not living the most christian of lifes untill about 2 years ago. At this time i got a bit unwell, and at time felt a lot of guilt. i found my self saying the prayer of salvation again ( quite a lot ), Like i have said before i wasnt sure if i had said it before in 1999. This took me into reading the bible every day, joining a church - im still looking for one I`m comfertable in, but i feel im really getting places, praying every day. Sometimes i get scared though. Reading wesley bible commentry heberew 6..6
"6And have fallen away - Here is not a supposition, but a plain relation of fact. The apostle here describes the case of those who have cast away both the power and the form of godliness; who have lost both their faith, hope, and love, Heb 6:10, &c., and that wilfully, Heb 10:26. Of these wilful total apostates he declares, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance. (though they were renewed once,) either to the foundation, or anything built thereon. Seeing they crucify the Son of God afresh - They use him with the utmost indignity. And put him to an open shame - Causing his glorious name to be blasphemed. "
" heb.10.26For when we - Any of us Christians. Sin wilfully - By total apostasy from God, termed "drawing back," Heb 10:38. After having received the experimental knowledge of the gospel truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins - None but that which we obstinately reject."
what worries me is that i may have done this sin(s) if i did say the prayer of salvation in 1999. Could I have then fallen away and tried to come back? Having drawn back after having recieved the emperimental knowledge of the gospel truth? id like to think not - in that i know I belived and had faith and loved god. and somethimes I prayed. If im honest I think it has just taken me longer that it should have to " see the light " and each day i feel I am getting moulded into a better and better person. I dont think i fell away as such or drew back, or didnt let gods power change me - ie dening or defing it- i just took a while to undertstand things and to further being changed, from a position i had been in for a while. I guess at times God was silient and so was I. Got Questions explains this well "
In our walk as born again believers it may seem that God is silent but God is never silent. What looks like silence and inactivity to us is God allowing us the opportunity to listen to "the still small voice" and to see the provisions that He has made for us by faith.
Therefore, as born again believers, when God seems silent to us it may mean that we have either stopped listening to His voice, we have allowed the cares of this world to plug our spiritual ears or we have neglected His word. God does not speak to us today in signs, wonders, fire or wind, His Spirit speaks to us through the Word and in that Word we have the "words of life."I think I took time to devlop.
could someone , if they have time try to help me here. Im off on holiday on friday night, and to be honest im a little worried about have i tried to come back? after being renewed once? As i read this back it makes more sense that I am going to be oK as i never actually fell away from God as a beliver? and after all John wesley was just a man so perhaps im interpreting this all in the wrong way ( again! )
God Bless
:embarasse
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