Don't Pray For Me

[Admon Mikha'el]

Strange title?...I don't think so... I will only agree with prayers that line up with Gods Word...for good reason.

Prayer must be in agreement with the Word....If you pray in agreement with the Word, you are praying God's will.
Conversely, if you pray opposite to the Word you are not praying God's will...and you cannot expect God to answer.

So, Question...If God cannot answer your prayer because it's not in accordance with His Word...Who will answer it?
Satan and his demons just hang around you continually listening to every single word you speak...and they are legalists...They will take every empty, thoughtless, and profane word you speak, and use it against you...Just like in court...Profane, by the way, means words that contradict Gods Word. Praying opposite of Gods word is like running into a gale force wind...You burn all of your energy and get nowhere.

I've heard so many Christians praying "Oh God, If it be they will, heal me." IF it be His will? Really? What does the Word say? Its Gods will that ALL of His kids walk in perfect health, always..look at 1 Peter 2:24 You were healed...THere is no 'if' there...
Its God's will that His kids prosper in all areas...and not live in poverty...
3 John 2 Dear friend, I am praying that everything prosper with you and that you be in good health, as I know you are prospering spiritually. (Yes Financial prosperity fits in there too) Yes financial is a part of 'everything'.

I'll stop here...This is getting too long. If you want to pray for me, please please pray the Word..

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Strange title...I don't think so... I will only agree with prayers that line up with Gods Word...for good reason.

Prayer must be in agreement with the Word....If you pray in agreement with the Word, you are praying God's will.
Conversely, if you pray opposite to the Word you are not praying God's will...and you cannot expect God to answer.

So, Question...If God cannot answer your prayer because it's not in accordance with His Word...Who will answer it?
Satan and his demons just hang around you continually listening to every single word you speak...and they are legalists...They will take every empty, thoughtless, and profane word you speak, and use it against you...Just like in court...Profane, by the way, means words that contradict Gods Word. Praying opposite of Gods word is like running into a gale force wind...You burn all of your energy and get nowhere.

I've heard so many Christians praying "Oh God, If it be they will, heal me." IF it be His will? Really? What does the Word say? Its Gods will that ALL of His kids walk in perfect health, always..look at 1 Peter 2:24 You were healed...THere is no 'if' there...
Its God's will that His kids prosper in all areas...and not live in poverty...
3 John 2 Dear friend, I am praying that everything prosper with you and that you be in good health, as I know you are prospering spiritually. (Yes Financial prosperity fits in there too) Yes financial is a part of 'everything'.

I'll stop here...This is getting too long. If you want to pray for me, please please pray the Word..

Here are two examples of what praying the Word is...
Ephesians 1:16-19 16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that
the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of
wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, 18 the eyes of your understanding
being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the
riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the exceeding greatness
of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power

Colossians 1: 9-11 9 For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to
ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual
understanding; 10 that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being
fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 strengthened
with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with
joy;

When you pray the Word, you ARE praying Gods will, when you pray Gods will, you KNOW that you have what you asked for...and you will see it.

 

[Waggles]

I'll stop here...This is getting too long. If you want to pray for me, please please pray the Word..

Again your post upholds the marvellous miracle that praying in tongues is - for praying in the Holy Spirit bypasses the limitations of our natural mind -
and our prayers are pure and without blemish. A sweet incense unto God.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
1:21 keep yourselves in God’s love, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

 

[emanuel88]

Praying for you. ;D

 

[PloughBoy]

Again your post upholds the marvellous miracle that praying in tongues is - for praying in the Holy Spirit bypasses the limitations of our natural mind -
and our prayers are pure and without blemish. A sweet incense unto God.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
1:21 keep yourselves in God’s love, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

So are you saying That praying in "glossolalia" is better or has some advantage over a "True Child of The Living GOD" who does not pray in "The Flesh" But is Lead By The "Spirit of GOD" who prays in "Secret"? To be straight and clear, I am asking this question for clarity.

Be prepared, and take your time, in your reply. You better make sure you "Got The Whole Armor of GOD on" "and having shod your feet". and " That Helmet on Tight and all that goes in between, Because you might have to "Contend for The Faith". RIGHTLY.

PS "GOD"S LOVE" is going to "DESTROY" this world and all "CREATED things" that Exists in it. and "That is a "Promise". The Entire Universe and HEAVEN!

 

[Waggles]

So are you saying That praying in "glossolalia" is better or has some advantage over a "True Child of The Living GOD" who does not pray in "The Flesh"

YES
1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries.

 

[Waggles]

Also it is what Jesus wants us to do as true disciples
Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that have believed: in my name shall they cast out demons, speak with tongues;
16:18 and in their hands they shall take up serpents, and if they drink aught deadly, it shall in now wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

So are you saying That praying in "glossolalia" is better or has some advantage over a "True Child of The Living GOD" who does not pray in "The Flesh" But is Lead By The "Spirit of GOD" who prays in "Secret"? To be straight and clear, I am asking this question for clarity.

Be prepared, and take your time, in your reply. You better make sure you "Got The Whole Armor of GOD on" "and having shod your feet". and " That Helmet on Tight and all that goes in between, Because you might have to "Contend for The Faith". RIGHTLY.

PS "GOD"S LOVE" is going to "DESTROY" this world and all "CREATED things" that Exists in it. and "That is a "Promise". The Entire Universe and HEAVEN!

Ploughboy Intelligence is like underwear....It's important to have it but its not necessary to show it off.. You're using big words again to show how smart you are...We know you're smart...ok? We're convinced....So instead of using a word like glossolalia just say 'speaking in tongues" We're not all as smart as you are....

But that's not what I'm talking about...not at all. I'm talking about praying the will of God...We know what Gods will is...Its written in His Word.... That being the case we should pray along with Gods will, or pray His Word...word for word....Remind Him of His promises.....That way HE gets to answer and not the enemy.

There are some really smart people on this site, but frankly, I don't care how smart you are...we all need to live according to His Word, not according to how smart we are....That way, even those who are not smart can live intelligently.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

YES
1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Those praying in their own language speak to God too...not just those speaking in tongues.

 

[PloughBoy]

YES
1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries.

I will be kind to you. and make it simple by a "translation" [language] that you can understand.

"For the person who speaks in another •languagea is not speaking to men but to God, sinceno one understands him; however, he speaks •mysteries in the Spirit.b BUT the person who prophesiesspeaks to peoplefor edification, encouragement, and consolation. Theperson who speaks in another language builds himself up, BUT he who prophesiesbuilds up the church. I wish all of you spoke in other languages, BUT even more that you prophesied. THE PERSON WHO PROPHESY IS GREATER THAN the person WHO speaks in languages, UNLESS he interprets so that the church may be built up."

PS. NOW, HOW do we know, you are not faking and speaking in "GIBBERISH" We are not going to take the word of a "Barbarian"! Just because one may say, they have the gift of a "Interpreter" too! "Because if My GOD want to speak to me, "He better speak in a "language" I can UNDERSTAND!

American Standard Version
"If then I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be to him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh will be a barbarian unto me."

[If so be the case, you best to go in the closet and shut the door! And keep it to yourself! Just like the Book say!] . The truth, i ain't into all that "mumbling". voodo humimg, Buddha chatting, Hare Krishna charming tones,. When Some people speak in "Glossolalia" it don't bother me, but some, they spook me

PS. I don't mind speaking in a "foreign" Language that is unknown to me. But it is a real language of this world. But that "Hoodoo" language. And "Hoodoo" praying. I am sorry, I ain't into it. Each man is on their own. I am into "The Intelligent GOD". and The Wisdom of GOD, The wisdom that is not of This world. And i am not into The HOODOO! Language, I am from Detroit, Michigan, and not from "Louisiana! And i am scared of "Hoodoo" women!

PS Praying in the Spirit does not mean, praying in "Tongues".

 

[PloughBoy]

 

[Waggles]

PS Praying in the Spirit does not mean, praying in "Tongues".

Au contraire but it does indeed mean praying in tongues - and scripture confirms this.
1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my [mind] is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the [mind] also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the [mind] also.

 

[PloughBoy]

Au contraire but it does indeed mean praying in tongues - and scripture confirms this.
1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my [mind] is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the [mind] also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the [mind] also.

It means exactly what it says.
New International Version
So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.
New Living Translation
Well then, what shall I do? I will pray in the spirit, and I will also pray in words I understand. I will sing in the spirit, and I will also sing in words I understand.

Romans 1:9
For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

(1 Cor. 14)BSB
14 For IF I pray in a [Foreign Language] my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15 WHAT THEN shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my MIND. I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my MIND…

Most translations are not "WORD for WORD" translations of "The Word of GOD". And there are Rules for "Biblical Interpretations" for many do not give a heck what they are. And many are known and love the fields of their own "EISEGESIS". And EXEGESIS is becoming an"Unknown Tongue" and a endangered Species.

I have never heard anyone "Sing in "Glossolalia", maybe you have. But old black spirituals and old black Spiritual devotional Hymns, could be considered a "Glossolalia". We could just leave in up to The "Linguistics" Major. I am quite sure GOD has Gifted people in that area too. GOD does have all kinds of "Gifts of Administrations"

"Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all".

So The "LINGUISTICS MAJOR" qualifies. And a "Biblical Historian" for determination.

 

[Hekuran]

Aside from cleverness and speaking in tongues. There's the issue raised in the OP.

I'm not sure I could find any Biblical evidence for the idea that Satan can snatch up any inappropriate or unanswered prayer and use them to make mischief.

Even Jesus had to pray 'yet not my will, but yours be done' at his darkest hour.

In the sermon on the mount Jesus likened prayer to a child making requests of their father. As a father, I know that my children sometimes make daft or misguided requests. It's part of my role to interpret these with love and wisdom to ensure the best for my kids.

I'm absolutely sure that my heavenly father is the same - hearing the cries of my heart, and then applying his infinite wisdom in the way he answers. So, if someone is asking God for the wrong thing, God will be able to deal with it.

 

[PloughBoy]

Aside from cleverness and speaking in tongues. There's the issue raised in the OP.

I'm not sure I could find any Biblical evidence for the idea that Satan can snatch up any inappropriate or unanswered prayer and use them to make mischief.

Even Jesus had to pray 'yet not my will, but yours be done' at his darkest hour.

In the sermon on the mount Jesus likened prayer to a child making requests of their father. As a father, I know that my children sometimes make daft or misguided requests. It's part of my role to interpret these with love and wisdom to ensure the best for my kids.

I'm absolutely sure that my heavenly father is the same - hearing the cries of my heart, and then applying his infinite wisdom in the way he answers. So, if someone is asking God for the wrong thing, God will be able to deal with it.

Plus, another reason , why HE had to send another "Advocate" back.

(John 14)BSB
If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. AND I will ask the Father, and He will give you Another "Advocate" to be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and will be in you.…

(John 16:7)NIV
But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to You.

John 17:9 Jesus said:
I ask on their behalf. I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those You have given Me; FOR THEY ARE YOURS!

"For we know not what we are to pray for" BUT GOD! Has given "us", not everybody , "US" a "ADVOCATED" "The PARAKETOS"

“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus replied. “No One can come To ME unless the Father who sent Me DRAWS him, and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ "EVERYONE Who has"heard "THE FATHER" and learned from Him comes to Me—…

[And That is a "Promise"] And Let this be KNOWN to The SKEPTICS..................I am "Bragging" on my GOD" I am Magnifying HIs NAME and giving HIM all Credit. and The Praise] "I did not choose HIM, HE Chose me"

What kind of GOD is this, that even The wind and The Seas Obey's HIM?

Oh' how sweet it is

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Au contraire but it does indeed mean praying in tongues - and scripture confirms this.
1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my [mind] is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the [mind] also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the [mind] also.

Waggles ol' Waggles....These two verses do confirm that you pray in the spirit when you pray in tongues BUT they do not exclude speaking in a known tongue for praying in the spirit.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Aside from cleverness and speaking in tongues. There's the issue raised in the OP.

I'm not sure I could find any Biblical evidence for the idea that Satan can snatch up any inappropriate or unanswered prayer and use them to make mischief.

Even Jesus had to pray 'yet not my will, but yours be done' at his darkest hour.

In the sermon on the mount Jesus likened prayer to a child making requests of their father. As a father, I know that my children sometimes make daft or misguided requests. It's part of my role to interpret these with love and wisdom to ensure the best for my kids.

I'm absolutely sure that my heavenly father is the same - hearing the cries of my heart, and then applying his infinite wisdom in the way he answers. So, if someone is asking God for the wrong thing, God will be able to deal with it.

I agree I can't find any scripture that directly addresses Satan answering prayers that do not line up with the Word...But there is a fair bit in the Word about our words, profane speech, idle words etc....also there is results of prayers that don't line up.... Oh I just got up and I'm not ready to talk.....I'll be back later

 

[Hekuran]

Yrs. I'd say well-intentioned but misguided prayers don't do any harm. And they probably don't do too much good.

 

[PloughBoy]

Waggles ol' Waggles....These two verses do confirm that you pray in the spirit when you pray in tongues BUT they do not exclude speaking in a known tongue for praying in the spirit.

I am going to throw this into the "gumbo" since confirmation is at the task. concerning the Biblical text referring to The Letter address to the unruly and unorthodox Assembly located in the city of "Corinth". They was doing everything, in the City "Corinth" so many different kinds of "Hocus Pocus" Religions, Greek Gods, Greek GODDESSES, Love gods, sex gods, sea gods, Temples everywhere, And they where also a lot "Glossolalia" going on! There was no Christian Buildings in "Corinth" the only "Circe" around there was "Idolatry" Temples. Just about on every corner, trinkets galore.l
The Corinth Assembly was doing all kinds of crazy stuff, One dude was sleeping with his daddies wife and everybody knew it. And did not say one word against it. And they was doing a lot more. These are newly converts who where pagans! "toga partying" specialist. Temples Orgies, "come out from among them" Women who use to be "Temple Prostitutes", "Temple Priestesses".
There was no rules or regulations, really for the new converts. And they bought a lot of that attitude into the Assemblies of believers. Even the greeks pagan worshippers who worship other gods had prophets, and priestesses, and when they change religion they brought some of that stuff with them.

Now can you see how the word "TONGUES" which means "languages" turns into a "Glossolalia". Easy. And don't forget, just because you got a greek Lexicon don't mean they had one. LOL!

I going to say, right now. The devil ain't no dummy. He is smart, you need Jesus to combat him. He does have his hands in "Definitions" and word changes, Etymology.

Some might say; Well the greek word for this, and it means this. LOL. What you are reading sometimes in your Bible ,today, there was no greek word relating to that in the context you are reading when it was spoken. So a word was skip in to days context of the greek language because they did not need a "bridge word" for that portion. The people had common sense in that vernacular.

"Tongues" [ Foreign "LANGUAGES"].

 

[PloughBoy]

(Romans 8)BSB
"In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know how we ought to pray, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groans TOO Deep for words. And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for "THE SAINTS" according to the will of God.…"