Does God hate gays / homosexuals?

[Twistie]

Lo and behold, when did you get back, so you could bring us the news, by 1st hand knowledge. Did you walk back in time, or went to the future and came back? Teleporting, or did you Beam there? And how far did you have to go? Was it in this ream? Or was it on the other side of "The Far Horizons" beyond The Universe? Was it in, between here and ETERNITY? Or did GOD The Father talk to you on the cell phone? I'm just curious where you getting your reliable information at. Source to make sure you didn't get it from a "Dime Store Cowboy" riding a 10 cents Stationary Rocking Horse with a leather saddle on it. With rules posted how to ride it. Because we do not want no one to fall off! Kemosabe!


Don't get mad. and don't let them Red horns start growing and puffing smoke. I can't help help it. I am sinner, save by grace. Jesus died for me too!

"Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy." that is a new one. when did they post that. "HEAVEN HAS WALLS" and when you get there, They want to see your "immigration papers' after you get off the bus?

Can we take this show on the Road?

Please forgive me. I can't help it.

Have an amazing day brother Plough!

Twistie

 

[Twistie]

Lo and behold, when did you get back, so you could bring us the news, by 1st hand knowledge. Did you walk back in time, or went to the future and came back? Teleporting, or did you Beam there? And how far did you have to go? Was it in this ream? Or was it on the other side of "The Far Horizons" beyond The Universe? Was it in, between here and ETERNITY? Or did GOD The Father talk to you on the cell phone? I'm just curious where you getting your reliable information at. Source to make sure you didn't get it from a "Dime Store Cowboy" riding a 10 cents Stationary Rocking Horse with a leather saddle on it. With rules posted how to ride it. Because we do not want no one to fall off! Kemosabe!


Don't get mad. and don't let them Red horns start growing and puffing smoke. I can't help help it. I am sinner, save by grace. Jesus died for me too!

"Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy." that is a new one. when did they post that. "HEAVEN HAS WALLS" and when you get there, They want to see your "immigration papers' after you get off the bus?

Can we take this show on the Road?

Please forgive me. I can't help it.

One more I can't help mee self

 

[Twistie]

Venial sin is better then mortal sin, yes. Just ask your boss if they prefer you thinking about murdering them over actually murdering them .



I am not proudful all the time. We all battle with pride. You do too.

I never said we can't be forgiven for any sins. We can be forgiven for all sins. Our repentance carries no weight however if after forgiveness we continue in mortal sin. Or, to a degree most venial sins. We should be 'fighting' venial sins daily. That is what Paul is alluding to in Rom 7:15.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

This "I follow" repetitive statements is alarming.
Christians all follow God and His teaching. Making that statement is assuming you are "better" b/c of it.
The title is "Does God hate gays/homosexuals?"
You ARE obsessed. You write lengthy responses as if it makes you right. Calling him by one of his many names doesn't do that either.
God loves but God also hates and the Bible states many examples. Love the sinner hate the sin is the simple answer. If you wanna get into it about the "tragic" AIDS epidemic then you need to go see Fauci b/c he was the frontman for it back then and again for renamed, rebranded flu/COVID.

What’s your problem, man? I’ve never assumed I’m more righteous than either you or any so called gays, you’re the one who keeps passing judgement. I write lengthy response to YOUR lengthy response. And you falsely accuse me of getting off topic when AIDS is closely related to homosexuality.

You wanna stay on topic? This thread titled “Does God hate gays/homosexuals?” Answer’s simple: yes and no. Yes to a few who repent and seek Him, no to those who prefer Sodom and Gomorrah. Satisfied?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I am giving you a Sunday school lesson. Can you really not grasp the point Paul is making in 1 Cor 6:1-7?

Yes, this whole section is titled “do not sue brethren”, it is about settling disputes and conflicts within the church instead of bringing them to a civil court and the worldly legal system. The primary focus is on the church and never on any angels, you’ve been distracting all the time.

There is truth to a lustful thought going to adultery, sure. But there is also truth to a lustful thought not going on to adultery.

We all sin. Even as a Christian. Paul explains this in Rom 7:15. But Paul does not continue in the mortal sin of murdering Christians.

Yes, it may not lead to adultery - only if you come to your senses like the prodigal son and listen to the Holy Spirit. If you keep going with your feelings like the world tells you, then it will, and the process will be accelerated.

 

[MedicBravo]

Lo and behold, when did you get back, so you could bring us the news, by 1st hand knowledge. Did you walk back in time, or went to the future and came back? Teleporting, or did you Beam there? And how far did you have to go? Was it in this ream? Or was it on the other side of "The Far Horizons" beyond The Universe? Was it in, between here and ETERNITY? Or did GOD The Father talk to you on the cell phone? I'm just curious where you getting your reliable information at. Source to make sure you didn't get it from a "Dime Store Cowboy" riding a 10 cents Stationary Rocking Horse with a leather saddle on it. With rules posted how to ride it. Because we do not want no one to fall off! Kemosabe!


Don't get mad. and don't let them Red horns start growing and puffing smoke. I can't help help it. I am sinner, save by grace. Jesus died for me too!

"Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy." that is a new one. when did they post that. "HEAVEN HAS WALLS" and when you get there, They want to see your "immigration papers' after you get off the bus?

Can we take this show on the Road?

Please forgive me. I can't help it.

Here we go again with the assumptions, baseless statements, and snide comments.
We? You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
What's with the random statements? They have nothing to do with this.
Unrepentant sinners cannot enter Heaven. The New Jerusalem as well.
“The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all kinds of precious stones: the first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, the fifth sardonyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst” (Revelation 21:19-20).

"The twelve gates were twelve pearls: each individual gate was of one pearl. And the streets of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass." (Rev. 21:21)

Hell and Satan will freely let anyone in as long as they disobey and reject God. God will NOT let any unrepentant sinner into Heaven.
There are no papers to give. God knows what everyone has done and who has accepted Him and who has rejected Him. Those are the "papers" if it clarifies things for you.

 

[MedicBravo]

What’s your problem, man? I’ve never assumed I’m more righteous than either you or any so called gays, you’re the one who keeps passing judgement. I write lengthy response to YOUR lengthy response. And you falsely accuse me of getting off topic when AIDS is closely related to homosexuality.

You wanna stay on topic? This thread titled “Does God hate gays/homosexuals?” Answer’s simple: yes and no. Yes to a few who repent and seek Him, no to those who prefer Sodom and Gomorrah. Satisfied?

No problem. I'm not going to be silent nor am I going to compromise God for anyone.
Show me where "Does God hate gays/homosexuals?" fit into AIDS being brought up.
Do you think it is "natural", man made, or likely God's curse upon them for very serious sins? The latter is highly possible. No? As our Creator, Father, Judge, and Authority He has every right...to punish his creation as He sees fit. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Go back and look at Fauci's involvement with AIDS and those groups.
God still loves Lucifer yet knows he will never repent. To say the Almighty cannot love the sinner and hate this sin is false.
He wishes all come to Him but knows all will not. That feeling would drive any person to an emotional break and death.
This question and therefore is not so simple as "Yes or No." Either way, you have to explain it.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

No problem. I'm not going to be silent nor am I going to compromise God for anyone.

Yes you do have a problem. You're being unreasonably belligerent, not only to me but others as well. You have no interest in any conversation, whatever I try to bring up, you dismiss it as "assumption" or "opinion". What makes your words more valuable? At least I quoted Scripture, while you didn't. I just saw you get triggered simply because I said "I follow Yeshua." What's wrong with that? We all ought to follow him. If not, then what's the point of hanging around here?

Show me where "Does God hate gays/homosexuals?" fit into AIDS being brought up.
Do you think it is "natural", man made, or likely God's curse upon them for very serious sins? The latter is highly possible. No? As our Creator, Father, Judge, and Authority He has every right...to punish his creation as He sees fit. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Go back and look at Fauci's involvement with AIDS and those groups.

Depends on whether you believe AIDS is God's judgement for committing homosexuality, exactly as you said. If it was man-made like the China virus, it's still God's sovereign will by giving them up, as Paul declared in Rom. 1. "God's curse" was the common thought in the 80s, and some still believe in that today. I make no assumption on this one, sir, you go make your own.

God still loves Lucifer yet knows he will never repent. To say the Almighty cannot love the sinner and hate this sin is false.
He wishes all come to Him but knows all will not. That feeling would drive any person to an emotional break and death.
This question and therefore is not so simple as "Yes or No." Either way, you have to explain it.

That's YOUR assumption. You've been falsely accusing me of what you've been doing. When did I say "yes or no"? Go check my last post, I said yes AND no. God's free gift is the same, He gives everyone access to it, especially in these last days with Internet that breaks the power of traditional "gatekeepers", what's different is the listener's response to it, which is perfectly demonstrated in the parable of the sower in Matt. 13. My mind is not stuck in the mold of black and white dichotomy like most of you guys, because I don't believe in any one-size-fits-all oversimplified blanket statement.

 

[MedicBravo]

Yes you do have a problem. You're being unreasonably belligerent, not only to me but others as well. You have no interest in any conversation, whatever I try to bring up, you dismiss it as "assumption" or "opinion". What makes your words more valuable? At least I quoted Scripture, while you didn't. I just saw you get triggered simply because I said "I follow Yeshua." What's wrong with that? We all ought to follow him. If not, then what's the point of hanging around here?



Depends on whether you believe AIDS is God's judgement for committing homosexuality, exactly as you said. If it was man-made like the China virus, it's still God's sovereign will by giving them up, as Paul declared in Rom. 1. "God's curse" was the common thought in the 80s, and some still believe in that today. I make no assumption on this one, sir, you go make your own.


That's YOUR assumption. You've been falsely accusing me of what you've been doing. When did I say "yes or no"? Go check my last post, I said yes AND no. God's free gift is the same, He gives everyone access to it, especially in these last days with Internet that breaks the power of traditional "gatekeepers", what's different is the listener's response to it, which is perfectly demonstrated in the parable of the sower in Matt. 13. My mind is not stuck in the mold of black and white dichotomy like most of you guys, because I don't believe in any one-size-fits-all oversimplified blanket statement.

"Yes you do have a problem. You're being unreasonably belligerent, not only to me but others as well. You have no interest in any conversation, whatever I try to bring up, you dismiss it as "assumption" - You've made plenty.
I don't get "triggered". Again, you resort to false accusations and name calling.
Again, those "I follow" statements are irrelevant to this.
No one knows the entire truth behind AIDS. We have VAIDS now as I've mentioned before.
You don't have any definitive answer. No human mind knows Him at length.
"God's free gift is the same, He gives everyone access to it, especially in these last days with Internet that breaks the power of traditional "gatekeepers" - Again, irrelevant to the topic.
You used cherry picked verses not using the entire book it's in. Preceding and following verses are relevant.

"My mind is not stuck in the mold of black and white dichotomy like most of you guys, because I don't believe in any one-size-fits-all oversimplified blanket statement." - Your opinion not fact.
Inference can give a lot of info including the most likely outcome in anything. Cold cases are solved using this and it's basic level police learning.
You state you haven't made any assumption but you have. People hate being told the truth. Let's get back on topic.
Remove all the personal statements and assumptions and your responses are much shorter.
Regardless of the cause why is this group so important to you?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

"Yes you do have a problem. You're being unreasonably belligerent, not only to me but others as well. You have no interest in any conversation, whatever I try to bring up, you dismiss it as "assumption" - You've made plenty.
I don't get "triggered". Again, you resort to false accusations and name calling.
Again, those "I follow" statements are irrelevant to this.
No one knows the entire truth behind AIDS. We have VAIDS now as I've mentioned before.
You don't have any definitive answer. No human mind knows Him at length.
"God's free gift is the same, He gives everyone access to it, especially in these last days with Internet that breaks the power of traditional "gatekeepers" - Again, irrelevant to the topic.
You used cherry picked verses not using the entire book it's in. Preceding and following verses are relevant.

"My mind is not stuck in the mold of black and white dichotomy like most of you guys, because I don't believe in any one-size-fits-all oversimplified blanket statement." - Your opinion not fact.
Inference can give a lot of info including the most likely outcome in anything. Cold cases are solved using this and it's basic level police learning.
You state you haven't made any assumption but you have. People hate being told the truth. Let's get back on topic.
Remove all the personal statements and assumptions and your responses are much shorter.
Regardless of the cause why is this group so important to you?

Oh great, I talk about this group you accuse me of being obsessed, I don't and you accuse me of going off topic, meanwhile you remain belligerent, toxic and hyper judgemental in a passive aggressive manner with no contribution of your own info related to the topic. And for the record I've never called you any particular names. If you think everybody's words are irrelevant opinions and assumptions, why do you respond and why are you still here?

 

[MedicBravo]

"meanwhile you remain belligerent, toxic and hyper judgemental in a passive aggressive manner with no contribution of your own info related to the topic" Opinions not fact.
"If you think everybody's words are irrelevant opinions and assumption" - Putting words into people's mouth doesn't look good either.
If someone gave a good argument that would be good but here....

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

"meanwhile you remain belligerent, toxic and hyper judgemental in a passive aggressive manner with no contribution of your own info related to the topic" Opinions not fact.
"If you think everybody's words are irrelevant opinions and assumption" - Putting words into people's mouth doesn't look good either.
If someone gave a good argument that would be good but here....

I don't see you making any good argument. Or any interest at doing so. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own fact.

 

[MedicBravo]

I don't see you making any good argument. Or any interest at doing so. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own fact.

That's just more of your opinions. I've already copy/pasted where you have made baseless statements and accusation. If you can't see it that's your problem.
Again, as God is our Creator can He punish his Creation how He sees fit? Yes. Agree or disagree.
If in some way he influenced things.
He made something happen naturally.
He influenced humans, including Dr. Fauci, and that's why we got the AIDS epidemic.
AIDS is part of his judgment on non-repentant LGB, T+, and other sinners who engage in sexual immorality.

I remember that time. I was a kid and largely ignorant of Medicine. I used to be a mindless robot, gobbling up most of whatever was said or shown on TV. Thankfully, I had awesome family and a few others who taught me to think for myself. I knew something was wrong about it all back then like a lot of people.

The evidence against rebranded Influenza by itself is mounting ever day. You should trust your God given/made immune system more than those "things".
Again, everyone has a price.
Everybody lies especially for money.

 

[Br. Bear]

@MedicBravo & @Jonathan_Gale

Greetings,

looking at the title of this thread....

may I ask you both,
Does God like division in the Body?

Build one another up in your posts, please.

anyone can have head knowledge but at times like now, we must walk by the Spirit and bear fruit fit for the Kingdom.

Love one another


Bless you ....><>

 

[Br. Bear]