Does God hate gays / homosexuals?

[Twistie]

The unpardonable sin is a separate matter to sin having degrees. But the fact that there is an unpardonable sin, does further support my argument.



I explained why. Please quote which phrase of mine you disagree with. Don't just make a candid statement like this.



Please quote which phrase of mine you disagree with. Don't just make a candid statement like this.



For the third time, I agree with sin being sin. But if you put a fullstop there and not also teach sin having degrees, you are teaching a half truth.

The devil gave half truths to Jesus in the wilderness. Does that fact sit well with you? Is that you worhsiping YH perfectly?

Dude sin is sin if you wanna put degrees on it to make yourself feel better go for it

Like I said I don't get why it's so important to you idk what ur trying to accomplish other then make people think like you.

I've done enough Evil in my time to last me 10 life times what I am doing know is Learning to b Good for that what is written His children should do

I'll pray for you tho
Twistie

 

[Twistie]

Of course they sin .

The devil's sin is mortal and unrepentant. That is why he is was removed.

1 John 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.

In 1 Cor 6:3 Paul tells us that we will judge angels oneday. As the fallen angels have been judged,he is referring to those in heaven. Now, judged on what if not their sin.

All angels don't lol if they all did they all b cast out n that just ain't so

Hope you get to know the Word more tho.
Twistie

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

There is difference but not like you think there is both are relevant to each other and you cannot separate the two. Seems your emotions have gotten in the way of understanding. In your next response, I suggest you avoid ad hominem attacks and focus on making a good point.

I followed my master Yeshua who taught me how to make an argument. He said, "judge not, lest you be judged." He said, "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Are you gonna accuse him of ad hominem because He called out hypocrites?

A quick skim already shows you've made the same arguments/excuses as everyone else has on this.
They cannot be or "identify as" LGB or T+ Christians. They very idea is 100% hypocritical. Change must happen or they didn't truly accept God into their lives.
"Therefore if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The hold has gone, the new is here!" -
2 Corinthians 5:17

Are you suggesting that real Christians don't sin? Then you're a liar. "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us", 1 John 1:8. Every Christian has his or her own struggle with sin, but by the power of the Hily Spirit it can be overcome, and this process is the santification that goes on for the rest of their lives. I just emphasized on this simple truth, that homosexuality is NOT AN IDENTITY, but one particular nasty sin - which can be overcome like all other sins. However, if you treat it as an identity, then you accept that's who you are, you just give up and it could never be overcome. Your mind is consumed by identity politics. I never used such language as "LGBTQ Christian," you posted this oxymoron.

You don't know what mine are nor do I on you and I've never stated mine are more "acceptable".

I don't need to know, that's between you and God. But whatever yours is, your holier-than-thou attitude shows me that you think it's more "acceptable".

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I raised the fall of angels to support the significance of mortal sins. All angels sin and yet some were cast out for it.

Regarding your underlined passage. Homosexuality is an abomination Lev 18:22 to God and would be classified as a mortal sin if we consider the death penalty ordained for Sodom and Gomorrah.

Note, that it was reported that their sins were grievous. Not, that there were some children stealing candy from the candy store.

Gen 18:20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous.

Rom 1 :24-27 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator, who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

I told you in another post that there's no such "classification" of sins in the bible, any sin is an abomination to God. If you believe that we're not under law but under grace, then committing of any sin abuses God's grace, nullifies Yeshua's atonement for sin and breaks the New Covenant God made with us through the shed blood of Yeshua.

Your problem is that you're stuck with a mind of legalism, you fail to realize that Christianity is not a religion with a set of rules, but a RELATIONSHIP with God through Yeshua our risen savior. If you've ever been in a committed relationship with anybody, you'd know that sinning against your partner hurts their feelings and breaks their heart. You promised you'd do something and you didn't do it, you promised you would never do something and yet you did it, it doesn't matter what exactly that something is or what damage you have caused, you lose your own credibility and your partner's trust in you.

 

[MedicBravo]

I followed my master Yeshua who taught me how to make an argument. He said, "judge not, lest you be judged." He said, "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Are you gonna accuse him of ad hominem because He called out hypocrites?


Are you suggesting that real Christians don't sin? Then you're a liar. "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us", 1 John 1:8. Every Christian has his or her own struggle with sin, but by the power of the Hily Spirit it can be overcome, and this process is the santification that goes on for the rest of their lives. I just emphasized on this simple truth, that homosexuality is NOT AN IDENTITY, but one particular nasty sin - which can be overcome like all other sins. However, if you treat it as an identity, then you accept that's who you are, you just give up and it could never be overcome. Your mind is consumed by identity politics. I never used such language as "LGBTQ Christian," you posted this oxymoron.


I don't need to know, that's between you and God. But whatever yours is, your holier-than-thou attitude shows me that you think it's more "acceptable".

He hasn't taught you to argue.
Always the "Judge not" cherry picked verse taken out of context. You've shown you don't know God nor your Bible.
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - John 7:24

In continuation of the same verse you and others use while also attacking me or someone else:
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. " - This is explaining hypocritical judgment. If I cursed a lot and then told someone else not to curse that is what is referencing here. I'm not LGB or T+ that is for certain and no I won't put them together.
Righteous judgment comes from God and He has said their sin is an abomination. In fact, he burned up two cities that were full of it and so much more. It's not called Sodomy without a reason.

Don't put words in people's mouths. God said it first long before any of us were born. I don't question God but seems from your responses you have an obsession with this group. That leads to being one of the LGB or T+ or knowing/loving someone who is. No one else screams the loudest.

"Are you suggesting that real Christians don't sin?" More assumptions. Just stop.
Now you're not even staying on topic.
I don't care how much you type in all caps. It never makes you right. Their sins are both an identity and actions. You cannot separate them.
There is a difference between "Christian Insert sin here" and Christian struggling with Insert sin here."
By the way....being LGB and T+ is a choice.

• There is no evidence they were "born that way".
• Babies are what is called "blank slates". Every stimuli and influence shapes who they are growing up.
• They embrace their sinful labels/identity.

I loathe identity politics especially the Alphabet people.
It is an oxymoron and yet many "Christians LGB or T+" have used it and call themselves that. I'm referencing them. Simple.
You seem very keen to keep making assumptions and going after me. I know your emotions are out of control. You have acted the same and made the same arguments as everyone else on this topic.
Your final assumption is thinking I have a "holier-than-thou attitude" when you're just reading words.
You're not getting anything else.
Here's but one link for many who've changed from such vomit inducing lifestyles.

CHANGED Movement

We left LGBTQ+ because we wanted to. CHANGED is a community of friends who once identified as LGBTQ+. Today, we celebrate the love of Jesus and His freedom in our lives. We share our stories and breakthroughs to inspire hope for others in the journey out of LGBTQ+.

changedmovement.com

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

He hasn't taught you to argue.
Always the "Judge not" cherry picked verse taken out of context. You've shown you don't know God nor your Bible.
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - John 7:24

In continuation of the same verse you and others use while also attacking me or someone else:
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. " - This is explaining hypocritical judgment. If I cursed a lot and then told someone else not to curse that is what is referencing here. I'm not LGB or T+ that is for certain and no I won't put them together.
Righteous judgment comes from God and He has said their sin is an abomination. In fact, he burned up two cities that were full of it and so much more. It's not called Sodomy without a reason.

Don't put words in people's mouths. God said it first long before any of us were born. I don't question God but seems from your responses you have an obsession with this group. That leads to being one of the LGB or T+ or knowing/loving someone who is. No one else screams the loudest.

Oh great, now it's my obsession? Do yourself a favor, go count how many times you have uttered their title of this alphabetic soup and how many times I did. And for the record, I've never accused you of being one of them, and neither am I, nor any friend or family of mine in real life that I know. However, that doesn't make me innocent. I have my own struggle with the sin of lust - yes, committing a adultery by lusting for a woman, which Yeshua warned about. When I face the onslaught of their propaganda, when I see this issue being raised on this very forum, I don't give myself a pat on the back and wag my fingers at those "fags" like you do, I feel convicted of my own sin by the Holy Spirit, because I recognize that homosexuality is a misogynistic and narcissistic form of lust originated from ancient Greek. 2000 years in, nothing's changed. It has just reared its ugly head in a modern context.

Starting from the AIDS crisis back in the 80s, it was taken as an opportunity to market this sin under the disguise of compassion for AIDS victims. Ever heard about the broadway musical RENT? Season of "Love"? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I confess that I felt under their spell, I enjoyed it like so many others with absolutely no idea of the devil's deception wrapped in the gorgeous package of high art that moved me to tears. Now I realize how ignorant I was, and I deeply regret the pleasure I took in it. So, when I quoted this portion of Scripture, I definitely knew what I was talking about, I was fully aware
of the plank in my own eye. Yes, I believe that you're not LGB or T+, I've never doubted you for a second, but since you have pointed out that "No one else screams the loudest" and passed so much judgement, have you ever let a word of their propaganda slipped into your brain? I did, and I've spit it all out. Question is, what about you?

"Are you suggesting that real Christians don't sin?" More assumptions. Just stop.
Now you're not even staying on topic.
I don't care how much you type in all caps. It never makes you right. Their sins are both an identity and actions. You cannot separate them.
There is a difference between "Christian Insert sin here" and Christian struggling with Insert sin here."
By the way....being LGB and T+ is a choice.

• There is no evidence they were "born that way".
• Babies are what is called "blank slates". Every stimuli and influence shapes who they are growing up.
• They embrace their sinful labels/identity.

I loathe identity politics especially the Alphabet people.
It is an oxymoron and yet many "Christians LGB or T+" have used it and call themselves that. I'm referencing them. Simple.
You seem very keen to keep making assumptions and going after me. I know your emotions are out of control. You have acted the same and made the same arguments as everyone else on this topic.
Your final assumption is thinking I have a "holier-than-thou attitude" when you're just reading words.
You're not getting anything else.
Here's but one link for many who've changed from such vomit inducing lifestyles.

For all intents and purposes I've never said or implied that they were "born that way", they were just being tempted and deceived to take that as their identity, as I've repeatedly pointed out. However, Christian is also an identity, a new identity bought with the precious blood of Christ, and by its power, the choice for LGBT can be undone by the choice for Christ. In Christ, all things are possible, all sins can be washed away - including but now limited of homosexuality. I don't care about the heathens among them, they don't believe, the fault is theirs, let God judge, I just feel sad for them rather than hatred; but if just one out of a hundred truly repents and turns from their wicked way, then "there would be much rejoice in heaven," Luke 15:7, Yeshua's words, not mine. And if that gets me emotional, then I'm proudly guilty as charged, because that's a miracle in which the love of God is manifested. You know the saying, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil." But what choice do we have when evil is everywhere? In every faucet of life that leaves no shelter to hide? You can choose to turn a blind eye on it or curse it all day long, I won't make any assumptions, but I know what my solution is: "See evil? Hear evil? Speak Christ!"

 

[KingJ]

Dude sin is sin if you wanna put degrees on it to make yourself feel better go for it

I don't, the bible does. I gave you the scriptures. You are rejecting them. Believing and teaching a half truth, like the devil did to Jesus in the wilderness.

Most today do this with sin, I hear it a lot from the LGBT++ community. They say ''sin is sin'', so what if I do X mortal sin that God called an abomination, there are hungry kids stealing bread that bakeries throw away everywhere.

You really want to be labelled as the person that agrees with that nonsensical tripe? Go read 1 Cor 6:1-7 and grasp the fact that you would be in the crowd of people that Paul is rebuking.

Like I said I don't get why it's so important to you idk what ur trying to accomplish other then make people think like you.

I've done enough Evil in my time to last me 10 life times what I am doing know is Learning to b Good for that what is written His children should do

I'll pray for you tho
Twistie

Have you done any mortal sins?

 

[KingJ]

All angels don't lol if they all did they all b cast out n that just ain't so

Hope you get to know the Word more tho.
Twistie

You need to meditate on Mark 10:18.

 

[KingJ]

I told you in another post that there's no such "classification" of sins in the bible, any sin is an abomination to God. If you believe that we're not under law but under grace, then committing of any sin abuses God's grace, nullifies Yeshua's atonement for sin and breaks the New Covenant God made with us through the shed blood of Yeshua.

Please see post 47 to Twistie.

You two are both espousing a half truth.

I asked you these questions in the other thread. I see you have completely avoided them. You and Twistie remind me of an Ostrich that sticks its head in the ground when a Lion comes to eat it.

Jonathan, answer my questions please.

1. Is there sin on God's footstool? A - Yes or B - No?
2. What sin does Paul mention in 1 Cor 5:1 A - Incest, B -Children stealing candy from the candy store
3. What sin warranted the death penalty in the OT - A murder, B - fornication
4. Does God change - A - Yes, B - No.
5. Does Jesus say thoughts are grounds for divorce in Matt 5:32? A - Yes, B - No.

Your problem is that you're stuck with a mind of legalism, you fail to realize that Christianity is not a religion with a set of rules, but a RELATIONSHIP with God through Yeshua our risen savior. If you've ever been in a committed relationship with anybody, you'd know that sinning against your partner hurts their feelings and breaks their heart. You promised you'd do something and you didn't do it, you promised you would never do something and yet you did it, it doesn't matter what exactly that something is or what damage you have caused, you lose your own credibility and your partner's trust in you.

I am in a marriage. My wife has more then half a working brain on her. She knows that rape and adultery is worse then me thinking once off immorally of another woman. Does your wife not think the same? If not I would really like to meet her and have a chat.

You really do need to ''grasp'' that Jesus says sin is isn in Matt 5:28 and then explains degrees in Matt 5:32. IE Don't divorce on thoughts, actual adultery is worse.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I asked you these questions in the other thread. I see you have completely avoided them. You and Twistie remind me of an Ostrich that sticks its head in the ground when a Lion comes to eat it.

Because you're presenting a set of dichotomies by limiting the answer between only two options. If I jump in, I would very likely jump into a trap you laid for me, so forgive me for not unwittingly putting myself into a compromised position.

I am in a marriage. My wife has more then half a working brain on her. She knows that rape and adultery is worse then me thinking once off immorally of another woman. Does your wife not think the same? If not I would really like to meet her and have a chat.

You really do need to ''grasp'' that Jesus says sin is isn in Matt 5:28 and then explains degrees in Matt 5:32. IE Don't divorce on thoughts, actual adultery is worse.

I don't need to grasp nothing, the Holy Spirit has already grasped it for me. "when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death." James 1:15. In this case, death of a marriage, starting with lust for another woman in the heart, and guess what in between is a process, from thought to fantasy, from fantasy to flirting, from flirting to one time cheating, from one time cheating to regularly cheating, from regularly cheating to divorce. This is why I reject your dichotomies, such as this "sexual thoughts and actual adultery".

 

[MedicBravo]

Oh great, now it's my obsession? Do yourself a favor, go count how many times you have uttered their title of this alphabetic soup and how many times I did. And for the record, I've never accused you of being one of them, and neither am I, nor any friend or family of mine in real life that I know. However, that doesn't make me innocent. I have my own struggle with the sin of lust - yes, committing a adultery by lusting for a woman, which Yeshua warned about. When I face the onslaught of their propaganda, when I see this issue being raised on this very forum, I don't give myself a pat on the back and wag my fingers at those "fags" like you do, I feel convicted of my own sin by the Holy Spirit, because I recognize that homosexuality is a misogynistic and narcissistic form of lust originated from ancient Greek. 2000 years in, nothing's changed. It has just reared its ugly head in a modern context.

Starting from the AIDS crisis back in the 80s, it was taken as an opportunity to market this sin under the disguise of compassion for AIDS victims. Ever heard about the broadway musical RENT? Season of "Love"? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I confess that I felt under their spell, I enjoyed it like so many others with absolutely no idea of the devil's deception wrapped in the gorgeous package of high art that moved me to tears. Now I realize how ignorant I was, and I deeply regret the pleasure I took in it. So, when I quoted this portion of Scripture, I definitely knew what I was talking about, I was fully aware
of the plank in my own eye. Yes, I believe that you're not LGB or T+, I've never doubted you for a second, but since you have pointed out that "No one else screams the loudest" and passed so much judgement, have you ever let a word of their propaganda slipped into your brain? I did, and I've spit it all out. Question is, what about you?


For all intents and purposes I've never said or implied that they were "born that way", they were just being tempted and deceived to take that as their identity, as I've repeatedly pointed out. However, Christian is also an identity, a new identity bought with the precious blood of Christ, and by its power, the choice for LGBT can be undone by the choice for Christ. In Christ, all things are possible, all sins can be washed away - including but now limited of homosexuality. I don't care about the heathens among them, they don't believe, the fault is theirs, let God judge, I just feel sad for them rather than hatred; but if just one out of a hundred truly repents and turns from their wicked way, then "there would be much rejoice in heaven," Luke 15:7, Yeshua's words, not mine. And if that gets me emotional, then I'm proudly guilty as charged, because that's a miracle in which the love of God is manifested. You know the saying, "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil." But what choice do we have when evil is everywhere? In every faucet of life that leaves no shelter to hide? You can choose to turn a blind eye on it or curse it all day long, I won't make any assumptions, but I know what my solution is: "See evil? Hear evil? Speak Christ!"

It is your obsession. If you truly followed what God has said you would say "Yes, Lord/Father." whether you agree or not. That is giving Him the respect as our Creator, Father, and Authority in all things.
As the Left tends to be obsessed with labels and "identities" they earned that one. They kept adding letters to their made up genders. It's far more efficient to call them that than learn any of their sin details.
I didn't accuse you I asked you if you are. There is a difference. Your responses increase the likelihood that you are. In all this and how many assumptions you've made and gone off topic while name-calling I'm not so sure I believe you.
Your sins are not of concern here nor are mine
"I don't give myself a pat on the back and wag my fingers at those "fags" like you do" - More assumptions. That is the mind of a Leftist and they don't believe in God.
Explain how "homosexuality is misogynistic and narcissistic" -

Veering off topic again?
Forget the AIDS problem as we are in the VAIDS epidemic and that is another topic.
Anger used to be my biggest sin and I have improved a lot over the years. If I were to falter and then try to tell someone they are wrong for the same thing that.....is hypocritical judgment.
People who are guilty of a sin OR know people who do in this case per your words always "scream the loudest". In inference that shows a personal connection to such people.
Did Jesus not show us the middle ground while he was here? Of course he did. He spent time with sinners but did not join in or defend their sins. We don't have him here (yet) so no person has such authority. We are given instructions in the Bible.
Their propaganda? Explain.
This isn't about me. Stop referring to me.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

It is your obsession. If you truly followed what God has said you would say "Yes, Lord/Father." whether you agree or not. That is giving Him the respect as our Creator, Father, and Authority in all things.
As the Left tends to be obsessed with labels and "identities" they earned that one. They kept adding letters to their made up genders. It's far more efficient to call them that than learn any of their sin details.
I didn't accuse you I asked you if you are. There is a difference. Your responses increase the likelihood that you are. In all this and how many assumptions you've made and gone off topic while name-calling I'm not so sure I believe you.
Your sins are not of concern here nor are mine
"I don't give myself a pat on the back and wag my fingers at those "fags" like you do" - More assumptions. That is the mind of a Leftist and they don't believe in God.
Explain how "homosexuality is misogynistic and narcissistic" -

Veering off topic again?
Forget the AIDS problem as we are in the VAIDS epidemic and that is another topic.
Anger used to be my biggest sin and I have improved a lot over the years. If I were to falter and then try to tell someone they are wrong for the same thing that.....is hypocritical judgment.
People who are guilty of a sin OR know people who do in this case per your words always "scream the loudest". In inference that shows a personal connection to such people.
Did Jesus not show us the middle ground while he was here? Of course he did. He spent time with sinners but did not join in or defend their sins. We don't have him here (yet) so no person has such authority. We are given instructions in the Bible.
Their propaganda? Explain.
This isn't about me. Stop referring to me.

And stop referring to me either, I didn't start this thread. This thread is about homosexuality, and I give you a piece of their history by revealing their strategy of taking adanvatage of the AIDS epidemic, how is that off topic? I but follow Yeshua who urged his disciples to be shrewd as the serpent. You don't like it, that's your problem. I'm not obsessed with either you or homosexuals or leftists, I'm only obsessed with Yeshua who died for my sins on the cross.

 

[Twistie]

I don't, the bible does. I gave you the scriptures. You are rejecting them. Believing and teaching a half truth, like the devil did to Jesus in the wilderness.

Most today do this with sin, I hear it a lot from the LGBT++ community. They say ''sin is sin'', so what if I do X mortal sin that God called an abomination, there are hungry kids stealing bread that bakeries throw away everywhere.

You really want to be labelled as the person that agrees with that nonsensical tripe? Go read 1 Cor 6:1-7 and grasp the fact that you would be in the crowd of people that Paul is rebuking.




Have you done any mortal sin.

Lol dude your not dragging me into what sin is worst lol false teaching lol let me guess u think you r better then another because ??? Your sin is better?


When one thinks they themselves are better then another because of the degree of sin they r in then they themselves are in darkness n prideful

I'll pray for u
Fyi even a parrot can repeat.
Fyi even Satan knew the Word but he can't learn past them words u read for what he knows is useless n it's all written
Seek n u will find knock n the door will b opened

U sound like a pharisee of old thinking your better then another.


Fyi going n judging what n whom u don't know makes u guilty of all. One who goes n judges the Law is not a doer of the Law it is written.

If u think u can b forgiven for your sins what makes u think those who commit sexual fornication won't b

I've witnessed peep going from gay life to a married godly life

So keep on acting all self righteous n holy n let me know how it works out for ya.

Twistie

 

[KingJ]

Because you're presenting a set of dichotomies by limiting the answer between only two options. If I jump in, I would very likely jump into a trap you laid for me, so forgive me for not unwittingly putting myself into a compromised position.

I am giving you a Sunday school lesson. Can you really not grasp the point Paul is making in 1 Cor 6:1-7?

I don't need to grasp nothing, the Holy Spirit has already grasped it for me. "when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death." James 1:15. In this case, death of a marriage, starting with lust for another woman in the heart, and guess what in between is a process, from thought to fantasy, from fantasy to flirting, from flirting to one time cheating, from one time cheating to regularly cheating, from regularly cheating to divorce. This is why I reject your dichotomies, such as this "sexual thoughts and actual adultery".

There is truth to a lustful thought going to adultery, sure. But there is also truth to a lustful thought not going on to adultery.

We all sin. Even as a Christian. Paul explains this in Rom 7:15. But Paul does not continue in the mortal sin of murdering Christians.

You are confusing matters and arriving at a belief that is simply terrible. You are also not living in reality. Your take on Christianity is outside reality. If it is not, prove it. Go to your wife now and ask for a divorce as I know and you know that you have thought of other woman.

 

[KingJ]

Lol dude your not dragging me into what sin is worst lol false teaching lol let me guess u think you r better then another because ??? Your sin is better?

Venial sin is better then mortal sin, yes. Just ask your boss if they prefer you thinking about murdering them over actually murdering them .

When one thinks they themselves are better then another because of the degree of sin they r in then they themselves are in darkness n prideful

I'll pray for u
Fyi even a parrot can repeat.
Fyi even Satan knew the Word but he can't learn past them words u read for what he knows is useless n it's all written
Seek n u will find knock n the door will b opened

U sound like a pharisee of old thinking your better then another.


Fyi going n judging what n whom u don't know makes u guilty of all. One who goes n judges the Law is not a doer of the Law it is written.

If u think u can b forgiven for your sins what makes u think those who commit sexual fornication won't b

I've witnessed peep going from gay life to a married godly life

So keep on acting all self righteous n holy n let me know how it works out for ya.

Twistie

I am not proudful all the time. We all battle with pride. You do too.

I never said we can't be forgiven for any sins. We can be forgiven for all sins. Our repentance carries no weight however if after forgiveness we continue in mortal sin. Or, to a degree most venial sins. We should be 'fighting' venial sins daily. That is what Paul is alluding to in Rom 7:15.

 

[MedicBravo]

And stop referring to me either, I didn't start this thread. This thread is about homosexuality, and I give you a piece of their history by revealing their strategy of taking adanvatage of the AIDS epidemic, how is that off topic? I but follow Yeshua who urged his disciples to be shrewd as the serpent. You don't like it, that's your problem. I'm not obsessed with either you or homosexuals or leftists, I'm only obsessed with Yeshua who died for my sins on the cross.

This "I follow" repetitive statements is alarming.
Christians all follow God and His teaching. Making that statement is assuming you are "better" b/c of it.
The title is "Does God hate gays/homosexuals?"
You ARE obsessed. You write lengthy responses as if it makes you right. Calling him by one of his many names doesn't do that either.
God loves but God also hates and the Bible states many examples. Love the sinner hate the sin is the simple answer. If you wanna get into it about the "tragic" AIDS epidemic then you need to go see Fauci b/c he was the frontman for it back then and again for renamed, rebranded flu/COVID.

 

[PloughBoy]

This "I follow" repetitive statements is alarming.
Christians all follow God and His teaching. Making that statement is assuming you are "better" b/c of it.
The title is "Does God hate gays/homosexuals?"
You ARE obsessed. You write lengthy responses as if it makes you right. Calling him by one of his many names doesn't do that either.
God loves but God also hates and the Bible states many examples. Love the sinner hate the sin is the simple answer. If you wanna get into it about the "tragic" AIDS epidemic then you need to go see Fauci b/c he was the frontman for it back then and again for renamed, rebranded flu/COVID.

note: if GOD hates the sin, Then how come he sends the Sinner to Hell and not The Sin? I have never read where GOD sent the sin to hell. He send SINNERS! AIN'T NO Sins Going To HELL!

 

[MedicBravo]

note: if GOD hates the sin, Then how come he sends the Sinner to Hell and not The Sin? I have never read where GOD sent the sin to hell. He send SINNERS! AIN'T NO Sins Going To HELL!

God doen't send anyone there.
God has rules and if a person breaks them and doesn't repent then their punishment is b/c of their choices.
When you broke rules as a kid there were consequences. This isn't a hard concept.
Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy. The rules and such are laid out in the Bible.

 

[PloughBoy]

error sorry.

 

[PloughBoy]

God doen't send anyone there.
God has rules and if a person breaks them and doesn't repent then their punishment is b/c of their choices.
When you broke rules as a kid there were consequences. This isn't a hard concept.
Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy. The rules and such are laid out in the Bible.

Lo and behold, when did you get back, so you could bring us the news, by 1st hand knowledge. Did you walk back in time, or went to the future and came back? Teleporting, or did you Beam there? And how far did you have to go? Was it in this ream? Or was it on the other side of "The Far Horizons" beyond The Universe? Was it in, between here and ETERNITY? Or did GOD The Father talk to you on the cell phone? I'm just curious where you getting your reliable information at. Source to make sure you didn't get it from a "Dime Store Cowboy" riding a 10 cents Stationary Rocking Horse with a leather saddle on it. With rules posted how to ride it. Because we do not want no one to fall off! Kemosabe!


Don't get mad. and don't let them Red horns start growing and puffing smoke. I can't help help it. I am sinner, save by grace. Jesus died for me too!

"Heaven has walls and a strict immigration policy." that is a new one. when did they post that. "HEAVEN HAS WALLS" and when you get there, They want to see your "immigration papers' after you get off the bus?

Can we take this show on the Road?

Please forgive me. I can't help it.