Do you sense the spirits/entities in others?

[Hannah1]

yes on a need to know basis.

i can also sense people's inner children and or "parts" of themselves.

in extreme cases we call this dissociative identity disorder or multiple personality disorder, but the truth is everyone is slightly on this spectrum. If i scare you enough for example, the part of your mind that knows what to do, will take over instinctually and it may take you a week to remember exactly what happened. or it will freeze.. or fawn.. etc.

my most recent case is a woman i've been talking to off and on for 2 years now. she was friends with my sister in highschool 20 years ago and in hindsight, the reason why they were so similar (people thought they were sisters) .. its because they were both traumatized in childhood in similar manners.

well a few days ago.. i straight up told her that, i can sense peoples inner children sometimes, and i gave her some other examples. i have not yet told her that i straight up saw her other personality, as an adult person, hiding from the both of us, her and me. she is supposedly bipolar but i've only seen the slightly depressed side of her, not the mania side of her. if i handle this correctly she can be healed and won't need her adhd meds or her bipolar meds. her parents were christian, took her to church, but she isn't a christian however she does ask her guardian angels to protect her from her ex boyfriend.

For what its worth the only person i sensed their specic unrighteous internal motivations in a certain matter... i am left wondering if she is even a christian (she is by belief, but i wonder if she is actually born again). it seems to be not my concern, they have effectively left my church and 1.5 years ago, her husband confirmed that what i "saw" concerning her inner child (which was crying and wanted a hug one sunday).. well.. what i saw was accurate, from 20+ years prior. she was hurt in an abusive relationship in highschool prior to her husband.

that seems like being more from psychology,which I will study soon and know a lot about.
The concept of the different "me", inner child, adult etc. Well the demonic gets in through abuse. Its a portal, until ones closed it. In different forms of course.
"left the church" does not have to be left God or living sinful lives. After all we are the church, our bodies are the temple. Its not attached to a certain building.
But the view of God often mirrors how our own parents were. If she hasn`t dealt with the abuse its highly likely she has inner child issues. You could encourage her to communicate with it, the part of her child self, asking it what it needs and give it to it, telling it its safe, asking what it wants to say etc. Its part of healing. She could educate herself about healing after abuse and process it there are many books youtubes and real therapists. Ideally deal with it professionally. (for ex better help online) What we don`t deal with and heal will come back to you. The difference in what becomes dark or darker is in the intent. It depends on maturity. It could be as hard as having problems from the past. Resulting in sin or wrong living.
If she is bipolar she should have treatment. It only gets worse if not. She could recover there are very good prognosis for healing. Sounds more like borderline to me and it makes sense when she has been through trauma. Regarding ADHD it can be managed a lot through clean living meaning green food t hat is organic or as clean as possible and light exercise as a lot has to do with the toxins. I spoke to a therapist her husband had schitzophrenia and he was a therapist too and he managed his condition by clean eating and light exercise it took 80% of his symptoms, and he said he would be in a very bad state unless. He could almost live a normal life. Only a little meds.
Did you know you can have multiple disorder without splitting. It lays more to the delusional side. A sign of trauma and need of deeper therapy. It can be cured.
Fight/flight/freeze is very normal. But one can learn to manage their responses if they work with it and the brain

So do you pick up psychologically what state they are in, or how

 

[joestue]

that seems like being more from psychology,which I will study soon and know a lot about.
The concept of the different "me", inner child, adult etc. Well the demonic gets in through abuse. Its a portal, until ones closed it. In different forms of course.
"left the church" does not have to be left God or living sinful lives. After all we are the church, our bodies are the temple. Its not attached to a certain building.
But the view of God often mirrors how our own parents were. If she hasn`t dealt with the abuse its highly likely she has inner child issues. You could encourage her to communicate with it, the part of her child self, asking it what it needs and give it to it, telling it its safe, asking what it wants to say etc. Its part of healing. She could educate herself about healing after abuse and process it there are many books youtubes and real therapists. Ideally deal with it professionally. (for ex better help online) What we don`t deal with and heal will come back to you. The difference in what becomes dark or darker is in the intent. It depends on maturity. It could be as hard as having problems from the past. Resulting in sin or wrong living.
If she is bipolar she should have treatment. It only gets worse if not. She could recover there are very good prognosis for healing. Sounds more like borderline to me and it makes sense when she has been through trauma. Regarding ADHD it can be managed a lot through clean living meaning green food t hat is organic or as clean as possible and light exercise as a lot has to do with the toxins. I spoke to a therapist her husband had schitzophrenia and he was a therapist too and he managed his condition by clean eating and light exercise it took 80% of his symptoms, and he said he would be in a very bad state unless. He could almost live a normal life. Only a little meds.
Did you know you can have multiple disorder without splitting. It lays more to the delusional side. A sign of trauma and need of deeper therapy. It can be cured.
Fight/flight/freeze is very normal. But one can learn to manage their responses if they work with it and the brain

So do you pick up psychologically what state they are in, or how

there is a lot to unpack here, its not something that can be explained in a single paragraph.

first off, trauma has nothing to do with the demonic.
when children are tempted to sin, and then they sin, and then that sin re-enforces a trauma pattern of behavior, which causes them to sin against others: then you can get demonization.
It is at least a 4 step process. and its separate from the trauma. both have to be dealt with separately in a sense, but with time and maturity the mind can heal itself, the person can choose to stop sinning, and the demons leave because they no longer have influence.

In my wife's case, a year after the unexpected exorcism, i asked her to go back into those memories to be sure who opened the door to let them in: she did. and all she saw was her mother opening the door, back when she was like 4 years of age. so as parents, we have authority over our children for good and evil.


i know of folks who have much more severe trauma than i do. for example:
A man who initially rescued my wife from her pedophile back when she was 18:

he was raised by actual neo-nazi's and had to teach himself how to read at age 13. he ended up in the American army as a Canadian citizen, as a medic in the first iraq war, and that's how he got his American citizenship.

So he gets out of the army in like 2008 maybe, i can't recall, with a lot of ptsd from having to deal with crimes against men and women and children... reflecting his own failed up bringing. -as in yes he had to watch children die because the bomb squad couldn't defuse their remote detonated suicide vest in time to get them care.

no demons involved. today i'd say he is 42 iirc, but cognitively he is about 14 in many ways. no demons at all, and he has told me some of my experiences seem legit even though he has to suspend judgement on the spiritual side of it. -told me my mind was processing my own ptsd. i have to suspend judgement.

I'm not saying he is a christian and not influenced by demons at all, but i've seen no evidence there is any darkness in him that is attached to his trauma. which is severe and he has a 100% disability rating and the VA pays for his appt and we visit each other somewhat regularly. but, it will probably be some time before he can actaully believe that God loves him.. as he as seen almost no evidence of it.

 

[Hannah1]

there is a lot to unpack here, its not something that can be explained in a single paragraph.

first off, trauma has nothing to do with the demonic.
when children are tempted to sin, and then they sin, and then that sin re-enforces a trauma pattern of behavior, which causes them to sin against others: then you can get demonization.
It is at least a 4 step process. and its separate from the trauma. both have to be dealt with separately in a sense, but with time and maturity the mind can heal itself, the person can choose to stop sinning, and the demons leave because they no longer have influence.

In my wife's case, a year after the unexpected exorcism, i asked her to go back into those memories to be sure who opened the door to let them in: she did. and all she saw was her mother opening the door, back when she was like 4 years of age. so as parents, we have authority over our children for good and evil.


i know of folks who have much more severe trauma than i do. for example:
A man who initially rescued my wife from her pedophile back when she was 18:

he was raised by actual neo-nazi's and had to teach himself how to read at age 13. he ended up in the American army as a Canadian citizen, as a medic in the first iraq war, and that's how he got his American citizenship.

So he gets out of the army in like 2008 maybe, i can't recall, with a lot of ptsd from having to deal with crimes against men and women and children... reflecting his own failed up bringing. -as in yes he had to watch children die because the bomb squad couldn't defuse their remote detonated suicide vest in time to get them care.

no demons involved. today i'd say he is 42 iirc, but cognitively he is about 14 in many ways. no demons at all, and he has told me some of my experiences seem legit even though he has to suspend judgement on the spiritual side of it. -told me my mind was processing my own ptsd. i have to suspend judgement.

I'm not saying he is a christian and not influenced by demons at all, but i've seen no evidence there is any darkness in him that is attached to his trauma. which is severe and he has a 100% disability rating and the VA pays for his appt and we visit each other somewhat regularly. but, it will probably be some time before he can actaully believe that God loves him.. as he as seen almost no evidence of it.

Im sorry to hear about your friend and if you have gone through similar. I pray you all feel better and get relief.
It depends on wether the doors are open, and also what God allows, for his higher reasons. Hes Very specific too what when and when to leave.
There's ways to test regarding demons, they have an adversity towards sacred, anything sacred, objects, music etc also if they speak in foreign languages, that they can't know or supernatural strength. Just a few. The best is an evaluation on all fronts. Evil can use our minds against us, not all thoughts are ours. So alignment with scripture..
With mental health it's common its 50/50 but in half the cases it's just mental health. Im quoting exorcists here
Most get better with therapy. And or medication.
Oppression is far more common. And even venial sins can potentially cause problems, it's not often, but they can.
Then we have generational curses passed down to fourth generation. curses passed down to fourth generation. Those can cause problems even for children

 

[NBTT]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I have gotten into the habit of making blessings whenever posting messages or even talking on the phone.

It's good that we talk about these things. There are many Christians who are told that this is all from the Devil and those in leadership don't know how to discern the truth. The sad reality is that Christians in general have gotten away from the Gifts of the Spirit, being more concerned about making sure someone can speak in tongues versus the higher gifts.

Even Paul states in the scripture itself, not to get so involved with the gift of tongues unless there's an interpreter around.

Paul says that we should strive for the greater gifts. And something else that people Overlook completely is that not everyone has the gift of speaking in tongues, some have different gifts all together. And the gifts that are written in the scripture are just the beginning. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit are only limited to your own imagination.

Please feel free if your wife wants to talk to a person, both of you are more than welcome to contact me. I obviously don't know everything, but I know a lot.

My wife has been able to experience the spirit world since a very young age. This did not begin after being saved. She leaves it in God's hands now to take this "feature" away, keep it the same or increase it according to His will.

 

[Hannah1]

My wife has been able to experience the spirit world since a very young age. This did not begin after being saved. She leaves it in God's hands now to take this "feature" away, keep it the same or increase it according to His will.

Some are born with it for what ever reasons, some are just more sensitive to it.

 

[Brad Huber]

Some are born with it for what ever reasons, some are just more sensitive to it.

I was probably born with it, first noticed it probably in my single digit boy age. I assume its a gift or a curse depending on your relationship with the Lord. Before I turned to the Lord, it was more of a curse, but after turning to the Lord its become a great blessing. Perhaps its something that blossoms more upon the age of accountability.

 

[Hannah1]

I was probably born with it, first noticed it probably in my single digit boy age. I assume its a gift or a curse depending on your relationship with the Lord. Before I turned to the Lord, it was more of a curse, but after turning to the Lord its become a great blessing. Perhaps its something that blossoms more upon the age of accountability.

Did you know, the exorcists speak about the difference of these gifts compared to how evil uses it, you might be given gifts from birth or any time and if you are away from God alternatively never been with God evil uses your born gifts. For example if you have prophetic gifts if you are falling away from God or living in sin alternatively not with God evil push psychics and the occult regarding those gifts and entities. That was just an example but its happened to many. When it was meant to be working with God and a gift from God. As well that the line between the two is fine, and I had problems with that coming out of the new age/occult. But as the exorcists explained it I understood what had happened

 

[joestue]

My mom seems to not remember my childhood anymore ever since i told her some things.

But I distinctly remember hearing whispers concerning me as a very young child, being able to see things. And i also had a self awareness that children do not usually have. My mom later told my wife "he thinks he raised himself, he didn't. I had to teach him how to put on a shirt just like i did my other children" -well, that speaks volumes.

I suspect there were others but even the day i was born someone walked up to my mom in the hospital and told her something about me. it could be noise, but i don't think so.

but from age 8 to age 24, nothing in the spiritual realm showed up to me, i didn't dream interesting dreams, didn't hear anything. it was all trying to hide.... But its possible nothing happened during those years because i didn't pray about a generational curse on my father's father's house that i was made aware of when i was 7. so, after i did get rid of it, some things changed.


I have since realized that spiritual gifts and anointings are "public" information in the spiritual realm, and you may be born with them, or not, i suspend judgement. In my case, a girl 7 years older than me in the church nursery coveted my spiritual gifts, and this manifested in her life again 18 years later when she tried to give herself to me, pleaded with me to use my spiritual gifts to make the world a better place, and directly asked me if i was a prophet. a friend was quick to insist "the demons in her recognized you". and, i don't think its that simple, i think she actually did. because this has happened more than once, people have instinctually come to me for help and i don't think demons sent them.

my wife believes our future child will be a more spiritually powerful person than myself. which, is honestly kinda scary to think about.

 

[Bill]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

John the Baptist is the only known person in the scripture to have been baptized while in the womb..

I tell you this because it shows the truth, that you can receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit before you are born.

There are a lot of truths that become evident with this particular example, that you do not have to be a Christian to receive the Gifts of the Spirit, you don't even have to know who Jesus is. The Holy Spirit gives Its gifts to whomever It chooses.

Also that the Gifts are free gifts.

So this concurs with a lot of what you're saying already. That many people can receive the Gifts of the Spirit, before birth, and even after your birth. It's not really up to us it's up to whoever God chooses.

And it's true, that if you are drawn to the dark things that you could use those gifts in a dark nature. Just remember like Lucifer, who rejected God. That without love those gifts are nothing.

 

[Bill]

yes on a need to know basis.

i can also sense people's inner children and or "parts" of themselves.

in extreme cases we call this dissociative identity disorder or multiple personality disorder, but the truth is everyone is slightly on this spectrum. If i scare you enough for example, the part of your mind that knows what to do, will take over instinctually and it may take you a week to remember exactly what happened. or it will freeze.. or fawn.. etc.

my most recent case is a woman i've been talking to off and on for 2 years now. she was friends with my sister in highschool 20 years ago and in hindsight, the reason why they were so similar (people thought they were sisters) .. its because they were both traumatized in childhood in similar manners.

well a few days ago.. i straight up told her that, i can sense peoples inner children sometimes, and i gave her some other examples. i have not yet told her that i straight up saw her other personality, as an adult person, hiding from the both of us, her and me. she is supposedly bipolar but i've only seen the slightly depressed side of her, not the mania side of her. if i handle this correctly she can be healed and won't need her adhd meds or her bipolar meds. her parents were christian, took her to church, but she isn't a christian however she does ask her guardian angels to protect her from her ex boyfriend.

For what its worth the only person i sensed their specic unrighteous internal motivations in a certain matter... i am left wondering if she is even a christian (she is by belief, but i wonder if she is actually born again). it seems to be not my concern, they have effectively left my church and 1.5 years ago, her husband confirmed that what i "saw" concerning her inner child (which was crying and wanted a hug one sunday).. well.. what i saw was accurate, from 20+ years prior. she was hurt in an abusive relationship in highschool prior to her husband.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I know a house in Kentucky that is extremely haunted.

I was invited to stay there for a night I had two others that were there with me and by 11:00 at night they were out of there. I spent the night there there was a lot of really unusual things that went on. For instance a 1-in plywood piece that was 8 ft by 4 ft which covered a doorway and was screwed into the wood got blown clean off the hinges and landed flat on the floor.

There's a difference between being scared of the darkness. And being surprised by something you weren't expecting. And that would be what happened with me, I wasn't scared of the darkness at all I just wasn't expecting the door to get thrown off to hinges out to the floor. A variety of other things took place that were really interesting I thought. For instance I could clearly hear footsteps that were above my head roughly 7 ft above my head walking along as if they were walking on a floor. The crazy thing was is that there was no floor because that house had cathedral ceilings to it.

I actually stood up on a chair to get my head as high as the footsteps were and it was like what was ever making the footsteps walked right in front of my face. I wasn't bothered by the darkness as far as fear goes I was just interested in the experience of it all.

The owner of the house Bill Williams of Lancaster Kentucky, a friend of mine told me that his grandmother willed him a piece of property. So a building built back in the 1800s that had no doors and no windows was found on this piece of property, they had no idea what it was. They built a brand new house right next to it and after cutting a doorway into this building is when all the Mischief started taking place.

He told me about how they would have all their pots and pans moved all over the place and all the drawers in the kitchen would be opened up on their own after the house was built. They had magnetic doors on all of their cabinets in the kitchen and yet all of them would be opened up overnight.

The whole family has been so terrified to live there that they moved completely out of the brand new house that they had built.

At the time I was working for the Christian Appalachian project in Kentucky, and Bill Williams was a manager in the main office. He was my boss as I used to do work on their automobiles.

I don't know whatever became of the property or the house. If they ever got rid of it the entity that came in.

 

[joestue]

I actually stood up on a chair to get my head as high as the footsteps were and it was like what was ever making the footsteps walked right in front of my face. I wasn't bothered by the darkness as far as fear goes I was just interested in the experience of it all.

i believe it, seems to match your personality.

not something i would do.

friend of mine knows of a bar that has a long history. was once a horse stables in like 1900. then a brothel, then a hotel? then a bar.
we had a conversation with the bar tender one night, she told us the history. said the third floor stays locked, no one goes up there.. she did once, asked the ghost if it was there, make itself known. it did. that was enough for her. door stays locked..



the woman i'm speaking of in the prior post recently told me a little more.
says every memory care facility she has worked in is haunted, substantially. says things move on their own, and other coworkers see it too. this isn't something she just told me today, we've talked about it before.

frying pan falling to the floor like someone picked it up and dropped it.

My mom worked in old folks homes but she spent a lot of time praying for people. one of the most interesting cases she witnessed was all the florescent lights turning deep red the moment a person died. she had many stories but nothing like physical objects thrown around.

i personally have never witnessed any physical object move due to the demonic.