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difference between rapture and the second coming

Eternal.

The same Greek words are used to describe eternal life, and eternal punishment. You just don't pick and choose what you want to believe.

You believe there is no eternal punishment, then no immortality or eternal life.

You also did not explain your comment about the Kingdom of God coming in Rev to deal justice to the sinner.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
The same Greek words are used to describe eternal life, and eternal punishment. You just don't pick and choose what you want to believe.

You believe there is no eternal punishment, then no immortality or eternal life.

You also did not explain your comment about the Kingdom of God coming in Rev to deal justice to the sinner.

Jesus Is Lord.

If we start with Malachi, chapter 4 -after the 2nd coming of the Lord we see a permanent destruction of the wicked (evil) and as you look at Rev 20: 12-15, you get a better picture of the.consequences of the wicked.
what do you think in Rev 20, verse 14 means when it says " This is the second death? "
I believe if you study Revelation chapters 20, 21, and 22 you will see the Kingdom of God unfolding and being established on earth-the new Jerusalem, His throne on earth.
Regarding the immortality or mortality of the human spirit or soul, if the argument of pros and cons were equal as to what is right or not, or there was some doubt one way or the other wouldn't a true Christian think that the God they worship would not willingly inflict such punishment as unending torture in burning flames if our God is infinitely all merciful according to the Bible. If the case for all this ends up in a disagreement or contention I would always take the side of swift and merciful justice rather than a vengeful, painful, and cruel torment side.
Even our penal system would not exact a continuous electrocution of the worst criminal, keeping them sparked and alive so they can repeat it all over again endlessly.
I'm on the side of the debate that God is all merciful.
Isaiah1:28 - " rebels and sinners shall be destroyed together and those who forsake the Lord shall be consumed "
 
Hell.

We already been through all those scriptures..........

I'm on the side of the debate that God is all merciful.

I believe you brother, that is my Doctrine. God is good!!!

I was sitting in the pew, it was a Pentecostal Church. The Pastor was giving the sad news about a church family of four that died on Saturday in a car crash. Everyone seemed pretty somber about it.

At the end of his announcement, he said this.

God causes it to rain on the Just and unjust.............

That scripture stuck in my mind. I listened to the rest of the service, and wanting everyone to go home happy I suppose he said we serve a good, good God. He is so merciful..................

Just then, that scripture came to my mind again.

God causes it to rain on the just and unjust.

The Lord spoke to me right after that. Not a voice, but inside. He said, "He does not really think I am Good."

It just then occurred to me, what exactly the Pastor meant.

God murders the just for no reason, and God murders the unjust.


I have been asked to leave one church, and sort of moved out of 2 others.

Why? Because of my God is good Doctrine.

Job, was tested by God, and sifted as wheat, having even his Children murdered.

My response: God did not such thing, nor commissioned any such thing. God is good.

Paul asked the Lord 3 times to heal him, but the Lord did not.

Not true........... God is good.

Jesus only healed one person at that pool, the guy on the mat. He just left all the others there, so it's not his will to heal everyone.

Not true........ God is good.

The angle of the Lord murdered Herod, his guts spilled on the street........

Ummmm........ I tried to twist that, and get in some Greek, and no denying it....... Herod was killed by an angle of the Lord.

So, I had to find the connection.

Judge not, there are way to many scriptures that define hell, Even Jesus talking about Abraham and the rich man. If that was just a parable, it's the first Parable Jesus used real people, we are never told it's a parable, and Jesus Lied through his teeth saying something that Abraham never said...... That is called Slander!!!

It's a serious defamation of Character of Jesus against Abraham. Abraham is now claiming a Hell, were the rich man was punished, when there is no hell for punishment.

Well, Mike, it was a parable, so Abraham knows it's not serious.
This is what Slander is. A made up story, stating one party claimed something when they did no such thing.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

That scripture is in perfect line with the rest. The meaning is very clear. I have to go and hunt for something to remove the meaning.

Well, there is no more day and night The Lord is the Light.........so...... it's not really day and night forever, it's just a something, something.

There is no need of day or night in the CITY!!! Those that come from all over have day and night. The Lord's light extends throughout his city.

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon,


Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

(Side note..... Where the bad guys come from? Another mystery to me.)

So, Judge Not............. I don't like the idea of Hell, and eternal punishment. There is just way to much work to do, in attempts to prove that Eternal punishment is not real.

I also have to have inconsistent interpretation of Greek words, and Personally, I am not OK with that. I have to do that to prove there is Eternal life.

God bless...

Jesus Is Lord.
 
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