Definition of faith

[PloughBoy]

You have been trying to put curses on me. There is more than one thread where you try to put curses on me. You have been doing that since I joined this site.

What possess you to think that I can “Curse” anybody. Who you been talking to? Somebody must be Whispering between your ears. Are you Hearing voices?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Does “faith” in God’s word suggest “disobedience” in God’s Word?

Let’s look at the word “faith”….

Hab 2:4 - Behold, his soul H5315which is lifted up H6075 is not upright H3474 in him: but the just H6662 shall live H2421 by his faith. H530

Faith in Hebrew H530=

Strong’s Definitions
אֱמוּנָה ʼĕmûwnâh, em-oo-naw'; or (shortened) אֱמֻנָה ʼĕmunâh; feminine of H529; literally firmness; figuratively security; morally fidelity:—faith(-ful, -ly, -ness, (man)), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 49x
The KJV translates Strong's H530 in the following manner: faithfulness (18x), truth (13x), faithfully (5x), office (5x), faithful (3x), faith (1x), stability (1x), steady (1x), truly (1x), verily (1x).

Outline of Biblical Usage
firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness”

Now to NT…..

Rom 1:17 - For G1063 therein G1722 G846 is G601 ➔the righteousness G1343 of God G2316revealed G601 from G1537 faith G4102to G1519 faith: G4102 as G2531 it is written, G1125 G1161 The just G1342shall live G2198 by G1537 faith. G4102

In the Greek faith G4102=

Strong’s Definitions
πίστις pístis, pis'-tis; from G3982; persuasion, i.e. credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly, constancy in such profession; by extension, the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself:—assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 244x
The KJV translates Strong's G4102 in the following manner: faith (239x), assurance (1x), believe (with G1537) (1x), belief (1x), them that believe (1x), fidelity (1x).

Outline of Biblical Usage

1. conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it
   1. relating to God
      1. the conviction that God exists and is the creator and ruler of all things, the provider and bestower of eternal salvation through Christ
   2. relating to Christ
      1. a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God
   3. the religious beliefs of Christians
   4. belief with the predominate idea of trust (or confidence) whether in God or in Christ, springing from faith in the same
2. fidelity, faithfulness
   1. the character of one who can be relied on”

Well - That was a waste of time Didn't even cite Heb 11:1, which give two attributed that BIBLICAL FAITH must have:

SUBSTANCE - i.e. you can safely out your WEIGHT on it, and it'll hold you. "Belief" (Mental assent) has no substance, and is only valid until something better, or more convincing comes along. you have to hold onto,and Defend your "Belief".. Biblical Faith "holds onto you".

EVIDENCE - i.e. Faith is incontrovertible evidence that the thing you DON'T detect/observe with you senses Is real nonetheless. "Belief" is evidence of NOTHING, except how you happen to feel at the time.

In addition, Biblical FAITH comes from GOD'S WORD TO YOU (Rom 10:17) Abram, had GOD'S WORD that he was supposed to leave everything and everybody, and go to a place that God would show him. Based ONLY on that WORD, with no other external evidence, he packed up and left.

 

[God's Truth]

What possess you to think that I can “Curse” anybody. Who you been talking to? Somebody must be Whispering between your ears. Are you Hearing voices?

You have been trying to put curses on me. You think we are all blind?

 

[PloughBoy]

You have been trying to put curses on me. You think we are all blind?

What makes you think I am into “VooDoo” and “Who Doo”?

 

[God's Truth]

What makes you think I am into “VooDoo” and “Who Doo”?

You want me to give all the posts of curses you made to me?

 

[PloughBoy]

You want me to give all the posts of curses you made to me?

You want me to give all the posts of curses you made to me?

Are you still dense, are have a short memory? Or are you Handicapped of any sort?

I spoke to you kindly, letting you know not to address me, in other words I would not address you in return, and not Interfere or be rude to you in anyway, but you chose to constantly “High Jack” my Threads, with no respect whatsoever or any concern of others as well!

We can cease all of this Animosity. In which I am not fun of.

But you, need to cease. And “Repent” and plea to To GOD threw “JESUS CHRIST” our LORD, for “The ABOMINATIONS” That you have committed, within your own closet.
And if ask, we all here will keep you in our Prayers of Sanctification.

You only have to humble yourself and ask. “please Just Pray for Me” is the only thing you need to say.

I am “Extending The Olive Branch” out to you.

 

[God's Truth]

Are you still dense, are have a short memory? Or are you Handicapped of any sort?

Ugly, dude. You think that is from God.

I spoke to you kindly, letting you know not to address me, in other words I would not address you in return, and not Interfere or be rude to you in anyway, but you chose to constantly “High Jack” my Threads, with no respect whatsoever or any concern of others as well!

We can cease all of this Animosity. In which I am not fun of.

But you, need to cease. And “Repent” and plea to To GOD threw “JESUS CHRIST” our LORD, for “The ABOMINATIONS” That you have committed, within your own closet.
And if ask, we all here will keep you in our Prayers of Sanctification.

You only have to humble yourself and ask. “please Just Pray for Me” is the only thing you need to say.

I am “Extending The Olive Branch” out to you.

smh

 

[gsmonte]

Subject Heading:- Definition of faith

Ĥ529:- mûn (ay-moon')
Definition:- From H539; established: that is, (figuratively) trusty; also (abstractly) trustworthiness
Translated: - faith (-ful), truth.
Occurrences:- 5

H530:- 'ĕmûnâh 'ĕmûnâh (em-oo-naw', em-oo-naw')
Definition: - Feminine of H529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity
Translated: - faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.
Occurrences:- 49

G3640:- oligopistos (ol-ig-op'-is-tos)
Definition:- From G3641 and G4102; incredulous, that is, lacking confidence (in Christ)
Translated: - of little faith.
Occurrences:- 5

G4102:- pistis (pis'-tis)
Definition:- From G3982; persuasion, that is, credence; moral conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher),
especially reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstractly constancy in such profession; by extension the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself
Translated: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
Occurrences:- 244

G1680:- elpis (el-pece')
Definition:- From elpō which is a primary word (to anticipate, usually with pleasure); expectation (abstract or concrete) or confidence
Translated: - faith, hope.
Occurrences:- 4
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'Now faith (G4102) is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.'
(Hebrews 11:1-3)

Hello @StewardoftheMystery,

This is how the writer of Hebrews defines faith, in relation to the men and women of faith he was about to list in Hebrews 11. Though as is seen by the concordance definitions in relation to the rest of Scripture (above) this definition does not define all usage.

This could be the basis of a good study, I look forward to seeing how it progresses.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Scripture is saying with respect to Heb. 11:1-3; “Now faith is the state of existing(being), expecting the exposing of matters not being observed. For to this(faith) the elders did witness(testify). By faith we are anticipating the ages to be adjusting to the Divine Declaration(Word of God), for the one(faith) coming is not being observed out of appearing. Yahusha(you call him Jesus), is the faith that did appear(Jn. 1:9,18; 1 Jn. 1:1-3; Gal. 3:25,26) and is being written on our hearts(Jere. 31:31-34; Heb. 10:15-17). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[gsmonte]

Scripture is saying with respect to Heb. 11:1-3; “Now faith is the state of existing(being), expecting the exposing of matters not being observed. For to this(faith) the elders did witness(testify). By faith we are anticipating the ages to be adjusting to the Divine Declaration(Word of God), for the one(faith) coming is not being observed out of appearing. Yahusha(you call him Jesus), is the faith that did appear(Jn. 1:9,18; 1 Jn. 1:1-3; Gal. 3:25,26) and is being written on our hearts(Jere. 31:31-34; Heb. 10:15-17). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

Also, Col. 1:27; “The Anointed-One in you, the Expectation of glory(resurrection-life).”

 

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Scripture is saying with respect to Heb. 11:1-3; “Now faith is the state of existing(being), expecting the exposing of matters not being observed. For to this(faith) the elders did witness(testify). By faith we are anticipating the ages to be adjusting to the Divine Declaration(Word of God), for the one(faith) coming is not being observed out of appearing. Yahusha (you call him Jesus), is the faith that did appear (Jn. 1:9,18; 1 Jn. 1:1-3; Gal. 3:25,26) and is being written on our hearts (Jere. 31:31-34; Heb. 10:15-17). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.'
(Heb 11:1)

gsmonte said:-

“Now faith is the state of existing (being),​

expecting the exposing of matters not being observed.​

For to this (faith) the elders did witness (testify).​

By faith we are anticipating the ages to be adjusting to the Divine Declaration (Word of God),​

for the one (faith) coming is not being observed out of appearing.'​

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Hello @gsmonte,

The Lord Jesus Christ is indeed, 'the faith that did appear,' as you say.

Regarding my usage of the name 'Jesus Christ' instead of 'Yeshua': the Lord is in no doubt as to Whom I am referring; being one who has no knowledge of the Hebrew language.

Thank you for the scriptures referenced. Though you reference (Jere. 31:31-34; Heb. 10:15-17) which will apply to redeemed Israel in days to come.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[gsmonte]

'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,
so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.'
(Heb 11:1)

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Hello @gsmonte,

The Lord Jesus Christ is indeed, 'the faith that did appear,' as you say.

Regarding my usage of the name 'Jesus Christ' instead of 'Yeshua': the Lord is in no doubt as to Whom I am referring; being one who has no knowledge of the Hebrew language.

Thank you for the scriptures referenced. Though you reference (Jere. 31:31-34; Heb. 10:15-17) which will apply to redeemed Israel in days to come.

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

Yahusha not Yeshua. The days to come are occurring. If you are called or chosen by Elohym(God), then you are of Israel, which means…a people of God, chosen by God, man of God etc. His resurrection power(the Anointed-One in you,Col. 1:27) is operating in you writing His words on your heart. Thus Jeremiah and Hebrews apply to us, the Called-out(eklesia). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[PloughBoy]

Yahusha not Yeshua. The days to come are occurring. If you are called or chosen by Elohym(God), then you are of Israel, which means…a people of God, chosen by God, man of God etc. His resurrection power(the Anointed-One in you,Col. 1:27) is operating in you writing His words on your heart. Thus Jeremiah and Hebrews apply to us, the Called-out(eklesia). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

Some thing is wrong with people, especially those who talk about the English word “Jesus”. They got so many “English” speaking pronounciatons, Transliterations, all kinds of English speaking titles, not even realizing the year the English Dialect and the year English biblical words were even coined into a word..

It it is sickening in this later modern day computer age, this dumb stuff is popping up like “kettle pop corn”!

Like English been around since AD 55.

I do not even want to talk about it!

Just Wait to Jesus get back, I going see what name he will answer too!

Like him and “GOD” On 1st. name Bases!

If the Begininng of The letter is mess-up!

Note:


New American Standard Bible
His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many crowns; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.

Like Jesus is going to be Riding in here Speaking “English”!

He have learn a few internet words. Now show us what he know!

Sorry, “Wild Wild West”
“Wild Bill Hickok”
A “Pair of Pearl Handle Colts”

 

[Curtis]

Faith is how we get an understanding of scriptures. "by faith we understand that the worlds.........." (Heb 11:3)
Faith causes the invisible to become visible. By faith, Moses saw him who was invisible. (Heb 11:27)
Faith is a spirit. We have the same spirit of faith.... (2 Cor 4:13)
The spirit of faith comes when it hears the Word of God. (Romans 10:17)
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. ( Romans 10:17) (Faith comes by hearing the voice of Jesus)

We are required to have faith in Jesus.

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless, I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me

Nobody can have faith in the Son of God until they first have the faith of the Son of God.

Our faith is Jesus's faith because that is who it comes from.

Faith always speaks what it believes which is the word of God.

Faith will move people to say and do things they would not normally do of their own choice.

Faith without works is the same thing as a building contractor not given a job to perform.
Faith always needs a work to perform. The words that come out of our mouths describe the work that we want our faith to perform.

anybody can have works without faith, but nobody can have faith without works.

You can not believe (have faith) in what you do not know, and you can not experience what you do not believe (have faith).

 

[gsmonte]

Some thing is wrong with people, especially those who talk about the English word “Jesus”. They got so many “English” speaking pronounciatons, Transliterations, all kinds of English speaking titles, not even realizing the year the English Dialect and the year English biblical words were even coined into a word..

It it is sickening in this later modern day computer age, this dumb stuff is popping up like “kettle pop corn”!

Like English been around since AD 55.

I do not even want to talk about it!

Just Wait to Jesus get back, I going see what name he will answer too!

Like him and “GOD” On 1st. name Bases!

If the Begininng of The letter is mess-up!

Note:


New American Standard Bible
His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many crowns; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself.

Like Jesus is going to be Riding in here Speaking “English”!

He have learn a few internet words. Now show us what he know!

Sorry, “Wild Wild West”
“Wild Bill Hickok”
A “Pair of Pearl Handle Colts”

I hear you, PloughBoy. We have this promise to look forward to…Rev. 3:12…His “new name”. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

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Yahusha not Yeshua. The days to come are occurring. If you are called or chosen by Elohym(God), then you are of Israel, which means…a people of God, chosen by God, man of God etc. His resurrection power(the Anointed-One in you,Col. 1:27) is operating in you writing His words on your heart. Thus Jeremiah and Hebrews apply to us, the Called-out(eklesia). Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

Hello @gsmonte,

Thank you for the correction re. the Hebrew name for the Lord Jesus Christ.

However I disagree with your understanding regarding these things. For me to explain in what way I disagree will be fruitless, for it is before God we stand, and on Him we rely in order to understand anything that is of the Spirit. So, I pray instead that His will, will be done in each one of us, for His Name and glory's sake.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[gsmonte]

Hello @gsmonte,

Thank you for the correction re. the Hebrew name for the Lord Jesus Christ.

However I disagree with your understanding regarding these things. For me to explain in what way I disagree will be fruitless, for it is before God we stand, and on Him we rely in order to understand anything that is of the Spirit. So, I pray instead that His will, will be done in each one of us, for His Name and glory's sake.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

And the will of Elohym(God) is that “all men will come unto the knowledge of the Truth(Spirit). 1 Tim. 2:4; 1 Jn. 5:6. Whether we pray or do not pray His will will be done. “These things”(Jere. 31:31-33; Heb. 10:15,16) are His will, and yes, they will be done and are being done. It is His workmanship(Eph. 2:10) being done for the past 2000 years, yes the new creation in the Anointed Savior, Yahusha HaMashiach, whom many refer to as Jesus, the Christ. Let he who has an ear, hear what the Spirit is saying. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

We rely on faith all the time as we don't have control over everything. We have faith in all kinds of things and people and protocols and systems. If you drive a car, then you have faith in that car's manufacturer. If you order something online, you expect to receive it, then you have faith in the seller, the online platform and the delivery system. If you work with a colleague, then you have faith in that colleague who's expected to do their job. If a friend made a promise to you, you have have in that friend to uphold their end of the bargain. But obviously, none of these is a saving faith. All of these will fail you, only God always keeps his promise. So the question is not the definition of faith, but in whom do we really have faith.

 

[gsmonte]

We rely on faith all the time as we don't have control over everything. We have faith in all kinds of things and people and protocols and systems. If you drive a car, then you have faith in that car's manufacturer. If you order something online, you expect to receive it, then you have faith in the seller, the online platform and the delivery system. If you work with a colleague, then you have faith in that colleague who's expected to do their job. If a friend made a promise to you, you have have in that friend to uphold their end of the bargain. But obviously, none of these is a saving faith. All of these will fail you, only God always keeps his promise. So the question is not the definition of faith, but in whom do we really have faith.

1fq

We rely on faith all the time as we don't have control over everything. We have faith in all kinds of things and people and protocols and systems. If you drive a car, then you have faith in that car's manufacturer. If you order something online, you expect to receive it, then you have faith in the seller, the online platform and the delivery system. If you work with a colleague, then you have faith in that colleague who's expected to do their job. If a friend made a promise to you, you have have in that friend to uphold their end of the bargain. But obviously, none of these is a saving faith. All of these will fail you, only God always keeps his promise. So the question is not the definition of faith, but in whom do we really have faith.

Now we are approaching with a true heart in full assurance of the Faithful-One, hearts being sprinkled from a wicked conscience and the body being bathed by clean water(the baptism the Anointed-One, the Spirit of the Holy-One, whom you call Jesus, is performing bringing man to glory. We are retaining the affirmation of the expectation without wavering, for faithful is the One promising. He is faithful, mankind has not the faith of a mustard seed. We speak of faith only because the One who is faithful is in us, and this is not our doing it is His workmanship, His operation bringing us to resurrection life on the last day. Faithful is/are His Word/Words(Spirit). “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life”. Let he who has an ear, hear what the Spirit is saying. Psalm 117; 2 Tim. 2:15,16; 3:16,17

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Definition of faith -​

I notice you didn't BOTHER with the pivotal verse that DOES define faith - i.e. Heb 11:1.

It states TWO NECESSARY ATTRIBUTES that "FAITH" has to possess in order to actually BE BIBLICAL FAITH.

Firstly it has to have SUBSTANCE. This eliminates "Mental assent" - "simple belief". Mental assent HAS NO SUBSTANCE. Not only that but the person has to "hold onto" and DEFEND their "belief", and only holds it until something "BETTER" comes along that tickles their fancy more strongly. Biblical FAITH hold onto YOU. you can put you full weight on it, and it stands firm.

Secondly, Biblical FAITH is a solid EVIDENCE, of the thing you don't see.

I'm homing in on the END of physical life (doctors gave me till 2004 - joke's on them). My FAITH is solid evidence that I HAVE a home in Heaven awaiting. I know little about it, except that:
1Co 2:9
Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

AND its MINE - NOW - by FAITH.

The three "Foundational Faith Scriptures" are:

What is it?? Heb 11:1
How does it come?? Rom 10:17
How is it applied?? Mark 11:22-24

Probably 90% of what religious folks CALL FAITH, isn't actually related to BIBLICAL FAITH at all.

 

[PloughBoy]

I try to stay away from people who throw the English word “Faith”around like it is an “Adsolute”!

They throw it around especially “Word of Faith” centric people and those who are young In the contents of The Bible.

If you ever notice I use it very careful the English word Faith, and you always can tell when a child of God Has never read a solid copy of “THE PILGRIM’S Progress” how they use the English word Faith. they never Learn the biblical meaning “Trust GOD”. They always say “Faith” they used the word Faith for every thing, loosely.

These kind of people are dangerous to themselves and those who hear them. It only ship wrecks them in the long run. Everytime. Because of The way they use English.

The English Word must be Used Properly when referring to The Bibical Text within “Holy Scripture”.

Example:

FAITH - Definition from the KJV Dictionary

Definition of FAITH, FAITHED, FAITHFUL, and FAITHFULNESS from the King James Bible Dictionary

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