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Counterfeit

Quantrill

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Counterfeit is one of satans tactics that is well known in Christianity. It goes all the way back to the original rebellion of satan. (Is. 14:14) "I will be like the most High". satan couldn't do any better than being 'like' the most High. he could never be like the most High, but he wanted to make that appearance. And so he makes his appearance as an angel of light. (2 Cor. 11:14). A counterfeit.

satan never comes to one and says, 'follow me, and you and I can share hell together'. No, he establishes a system close to the real thing. An imitation. The whole point of counterfeit is to make it appear as much like the real thing as you can. In other words, counterfeiters don't print 3 dollar bills. They print 5, 10's, or 20's. But within the counterfeit is laced the lie.

satans tactics do not change. They don't need to. he is very good at what he does, and it works quite well. Notice (Acts 5:34-39) . Here the apostles are brought before the Council of priests and pharisees for preaching Christ. Then one highly respected pharisee, Gamaliel, spoke up. He warned this council to be very careful how you deal with these men, for you may find yourself fighting against God. (5:35)

He then calls them to remember something not to distant past. There was another, like this Christ, who was named Theudas. (Acts 5:36) He too claimed to be somebody and gathered a following, but in the end he and his following were all slain and brought to nothing. Point being, God was not in it as it came to nothing.

After Theudas another rose up. He is called Judas of Galillee. He too gathered a following drew away a lot of folk, who also perished, and came to nothing. (Acts 5:37) But notice the time period of when this Judas rose up. "in the days of the taxing" What other event occurred in the days of the taxing? Christ birth into the human race. (Luke 2:1-7) In other words satan saw it coming. What does he do? he raises up counterfeits to look like something from God but they are not. The people get used to hearing of these people claiming to be something but are not so that when the real comes along, they are already in a state of rejection. They have seen the false so many times that when the real comes along they reject it.

So that in the very days when the Messiah was entering on the scene, satan was raising up a false impression to affect peoples minds against Him later. Counterfeiting can take on many shades. To present oneself as real when you are not. Or, to present one as false as to distract from the real when He appears.

Praise God He has given believers His Spirit to discern in these areas. And most especially to some the gift of discernment of spirits.

Quantrill
 
Greetings,

thought you may be interested in the following booklet?

or here

though the first may be easier to both keep and read
You can also order and buy a copy if you prefer but you can look that up.

Titled:

THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM

An Absolute and Irresistible Proof of the Divine Origin of Christianity

INCLUDING A NARRATIVE OF THE CALAMITIES WHICH BEFEL THE JEWS

So far as they tend to verify
OUR LORD'S PREDICTIONS
Relative to that event.
=============================
Long title ! Written by George Peter Holford

In it, not only a very interesting read through and through but it also shows how false messiahs rose and did attract a following and the consequences that followed.
Highly recommended (by me)


Bless you ....><>
 
satan never comes to one and says, 'follow me, and you and I can share hell together'. No, he establishes a system close to the real thing. An imitation. The whole point of counterfeit is to make it appear as much like the real thing as you can. In other words, counterfeiters don't print 3 dollar bills. They print 5, 10's, or 20's. But within the counterfeit is laced the lie.


man that is good brother and reminds me of the prosperity gospel, along with a lot of main stream be nice religion.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
 
Perhaps a believer isn't discerning. Perhaps they don't have a gift of discernment. And if they are separated from a fellowship, how shall they know if this is a false and counterfeit teaching?

It is all about the Person of Jesus Christ. This is where all counterfeits are revealed. Jesus Christ is the water mark. A water mark is what is put on currency so as to show that it is genuine. Scriptures declare Jesus Christ is God and Man. The God/Man. Anything less than this is a lie. A counterfeit will always take away from one of these truths. They will either present Christ as God the Son but not connected with the evil physical as man. Or they will say Jesus was a very good man who sought God, but He was not God Himself.

If you hold to Jesus Christ as 100% God and 100% man, you will not be deceived.

Interestingly enough I have been reading and just finished the biography about 'Brother Yun' the 'Heavenly Man'. He is a leader in the house churches of China. And just a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday morning, I was watching TV and flipping through the channels. And on one of the regular channels, as I have no cable, there was a show of these Chinese that appeared to be witnesses for Christ. It was an hour long show and so I sat and watched it trying to figure out who is who and what is the emphasis or motive of this show.

As I watched I found it was produced by 'Eastern Lightning, the Church of the Almighty God'. And in the show there are always these witnesses of this 'eastern lightning' way that approach other Chinese who are Christians. And they sit down with them and explain how these Bible believing Christians are mistaken. They too make a profession of following the Lord, but the Lord has shown them the way of the 'Eastern Lightning'. And so now in China they not only have to deal with the false government churches, but also counterfeit churches. satan is not slack in his duties.

In many ways, physical persecution is easier to deal with then warring against false doctrine. The line is clear with physical persecution. But with false doctrine and the counterfeit, you had better be prepared, for extensive and long engaging warfare.

Quantrill
 
Greetings,

thought you may be interested in the following booklet?

or here

though the first may be easier to both keep and read
You can also order and buy a copy if you prefer but you can look that up.

Titled:

THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM

An Absolute and Irresistible Proof of the Divine Origin of Christianity

INCLUDING A NARRATIVE OF THE CALAMITIES WHICH BEFEL THE JEWS

So far as they tend to verify
OUR LORD'S PREDICTIONS
Relative to that event.
=============================
Long title ! Written by George Peter Holford

In it, not only a very interesting read through and through but it also shows how false messiahs rose and did attract a following and the consequences that followed.
Highly recommended (by me)


Bless you ....><>

Thanks, I will look at it.

Quantrill
 
man that is good brother and reminds me of the prosperity gospel, along with a lot of main stream be nice religion.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

Jesus Christ is the Key.

Quantrill
 
Greetings,

is He not the Door?


Bless you ....><>

Of course He is, as He is also the Way, the Truth, and the Life. My point to Dave M. was that Christ is the Key in determining the counterfeit from the True. In other words, if I visit a certain 'christian' denomination or fellowship, this is what I look for.

I don't label the mega churches a counterfeit, unless they err in their doctrine concerning Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter to me how big or wealthy they are. If they are right in their beliefs concerning Christ, more power to them.

Quantrill
 
Perhaps a believer isn't discerning. Perhaps they don't have a gift of discernment. And if they are separated from a fellowship, how shall they know if this is a false and counterfeit teaching?

as believers mature and read the word more and more they will be more discerning, that is one thing the word of God does to us


by being in the word daily, by being obedient to the word of God, God will give us more discerning eyes

But one questions I find helpful to ask my self,, is the preacher always telling us what God can do for us, or what we can do for the Kingdom of God once Jesus fills us and transforms us. If the preacher is always talking about how God can bless us never warning us about the pitfalls of desiring riches and coveting things then we should be concerned

does the preacher teach on sin?? and the pitfalls and traps of our society? wear sin is a part of regular society now, sex outside of marriage is one of the biggest sins society has excepted and we should be warned about it regularly because God warns us about it regularly in his word, some preachers never say a word about it, because they want to fill seats and the collection plate. .
 
how did you like it??

It was very good. I know many people would be skeptical of the miracles described in the book, but I am not. China was and still is in opposition to God and Christ. It was much like reading the book of Acts.

Quantrill
 
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