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This thread is a result of a recent "Live Chat" discussion about the possibility that Jesus could have sinned. As, with most Chat discussions, it goes too fast and with too many making comments, that much gets lost in the fray. So, here are some thoughts laid out in a more organized format.
No child of God will live a sin-proof life till after they die and leave this "body of death,” "For he that is dead is freed from sin" (Romans 6:7). Jesus was not sin-proof but sinless. If He were incapable of sinning while living in his body upon the earth, then the temptations that He overcame were not temptations at all. Jesus truly had to be able to sin in order to overcome sin. Otherwise, all the temptations would have been a lie and Jesus would have been part of that lie.
Jesus “was in ALL points tempted as we are, yet without sin” (Hebrews 4:15b). Temptation is based on having an unmet need, desire or want. When we do not have our needs met or in check, we are open to temptation. If you have no needs, desires or wants when the temptation is offered, you will turn it down flat. However, when your need, desire or want is great and the temptation presents itself, it’s a vastly different story. This is where the Fruit of the Spirit comes in to play; self control, patience, endurance, love, etc. (Galatians 5:22-25). If we do not choose to develop these areas, falling to temptation will be a way of life.
Yes Jesus, though very God, was at the same time very Human and had to capacity to sin. As an ordinary human, if you understand that perfectly, then you have no problems fully understanding all of God's miracles, like, the trinity, immaculate conception for examples.
Eventhough Jesus was fully human and, therefore, given free choice, He choose not to sin but, as compared to the rest of us, He was still an anomaly.
He was and will always remain unlike any human to ever exist, He was perfect in every way. Aside from the temptations of satan, Jesus lived His entire life with out sin. If He was fully human, how was that possible?
How? By His greatest example to us, His faith and relationship with the Father was also perfect.
John 5:19
19Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
So, yes if Jesus choose to, He could have sinned. If Jesus choose to he could have summoned the angels to take Him down of the cross. But, His love and relationship with the Father and His love for us was so pure that it was essentially an impossibilty.
His example is with us still, that the more we allow him to live His life through us, the closer we come to the father and the purer we become and the less impossibilities there are in our human lives.
God bless and thank God for this most wonderful of seasons and the reminder of all the free gifts we have in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Merry Christmas
No child of God will live a sin-proof life till after they die and leave this "body of death,” "For he that is dead is freed from sin" (Romans 6:7). Jesus was not sin-proof but sinless. If He were incapable of sinning while living in his body upon the earth, then the temptations that He overcame were not temptations at all. Jesus truly had to be able to sin in order to overcome sin. Otherwise, all the temptations would have been a lie and Jesus would have been part of that lie.
Jesus “was in ALL points tempted as we are, yet without sin” (Hebrews 4:15b). Temptation is based on having an unmet need, desire or want. When we do not have our needs met or in check, we are open to temptation. If you have no needs, desires or wants when the temptation is offered, you will turn it down flat. However, when your need, desire or want is great and the temptation presents itself, it’s a vastly different story. This is where the Fruit of the Spirit comes in to play; self control, patience, endurance, love, etc. (Galatians 5:22-25). If we do not choose to develop these areas, falling to temptation will be a way of life.
Yes Jesus, though very God, was at the same time very Human and had to capacity to sin. As an ordinary human, if you understand that perfectly, then you have no problems fully understanding all of God's miracles, like, the trinity, immaculate conception for examples.
Eventhough Jesus was fully human and, therefore, given free choice, He choose not to sin but, as compared to the rest of us, He was still an anomaly.
He was and will always remain unlike any human to ever exist, He was perfect in every way. Aside from the temptations of satan, Jesus lived His entire life with out sin. If He was fully human, how was that possible?
How? By His greatest example to us, His faith and relationship with the Father was also perfect.
John 5:19
19Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
So, yes if Jesus choose to, He could have sinned. If Jesus choose to he could have summoned the angels to take Him down of the cross. But, His love and relationship with the Father and His love for us was so pure that it was essentially an impossibilty.
His example is with us still, that the more we allow him to live His life through us, the closer we come to the father and the purer we become and the less impossibilities there are in our human lives.
God bless and thank God for this most wonderful of seasons and the reminder of all the free gifts we have in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Merry Christmas