Could a Christian Date or Marry a "Christian" Who...

[Hekuran]

You and many "Christians" are starting to apply "modern" rules to God's word. But hear that there is no other truth other than God and His word.

That's a strong accusation. Could you tell me what I have said that has made you think that I am judging the Bible by the standards of the world. Thanks.

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Honestly, read your Bible. Neither the Law nor the Prophets nor Jesus nor the Apostles make an issue of literal interpretations. It is never a condition of salvation.

I don't think translations could have been an issue in that day. To my knowledge, the only Bible they had was the Old Testament on scrolls that were kept in the temple and the synagogues. Also, few people could read and write.

SLE

 

[LifeinJesus]

That's a strong accusation. Could you tell me what I have said that has made you think that I am judging the Bible by the standards of the world. Thanks.

"Your assumption is all true Christians believe the Bible to be 100% fact."

This leads me to believe that you don't believe the whole Bible is 100% fact and that some things shouldn't be listened to. Am I correct here? Do you believe that The Bible is but a figment of the truth? Because I'm pretty darn sure the whole of The Bible is fact. In fact, archaeological evidence supports the Old Testament and DNA tests on Jewish people show that they share DNA and originated from the middle east which again supports what The Bible says.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews#Origins

 

[Hekuran]

No. I have already said that I believe that the Bible history is reliable. What I object to is straightjacketing the Bible into a literal interpretation only. I think I have shown that not all of the Bible - even Jesus' own words - can be taken literally.

Some things I am not sure about. For example, is the account of Job an ancient drama only - without any basis in history; perhaps it is loosely based around an historical character Job; or maybe it is a strictly historical account. To my mind, none of those options is calling God a liar, because the power of the book of Job is in the discussion between his friends, and God's final response. Whether historical or not, I believe it is inspired by - and truly reveals - God.

My suggestion would be that a more telling indicator of a person's faith is to question them about the authority of the Bible. I sure that our response to the Sermon on the Mount (for example) is a far more important than our ideas about how factual a stories such as the Plagues on Egypt and the crossing of the Red Sea might be.

Once again I trust the stories historically, but I don't see that it is such a major issue. It is certainly not a requirement for entry to the Kingdom of God.

If you need me to, I can compile every statement of the requirement for entering the Kingdom of God, and we will see that accepting the Word of God as literal fact does not appear. Obeying the word of God is a different matter altogether. See 1 John 1. 'We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.'

 

[LifeinJesus]

But you haven't proven that St.Paul was speaking metaphorically.

 

[Hekuran]

But you haven't proven that St.Paul was speaking metaphorically.

Would it make any difference to you if I were to show you some of Paul's metaphorical language?

 

[LifeinJesus]

Would it make any difference to you if I were to show you some of Paul's metaphorical language?

No since you obviously don't know what metaphorical speaking truly is (you have some knowledge but not full knowledge) otherwise you would know that Paul was telling us not to marry unbelievers.

Can you point out where he was speaking metaphorically in that sentence then?

2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1:

Do not be mismatched with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship is there between light and darkness? What agreement does Christ have with Beliar? Or what does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, ‘I will live in them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore come out from them, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch nothing unclean; then I will welcome you, and I will be your father, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.’ Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and of spirit, making holiness perfect in the fear of God.

As shown here, Paul is clearly quoting from scripture and pointing out that evil can not be partners with good and likewise. Paul is not telling parables like Jesus but rather giving out instructions to the early churches remember?

 

[SpiritLedEd]

I just don't know who I should be angry at? Satan for making these lies and tempting people, or atheists for spreading these lies so that even believers come to believe them.

Satan's not afraid of your anger. Actually, he loves it because when you're feeding your anger you're moving away from Christ, not toward Him (see Mt 5:44;Lk 23:34).

SLE

 

[LifeinJesus]

It's righteous anger. God gets angry and rightly so when we are a stubborn and defiant people. Jesus got angry when He performed miracles in front of a village and they still did not believe in Him.