As for the wife and I, we are Gateway nuts; we bought one of their new hot rods with the Pentium D processor, and more gee-whiz stuff than you can shake a stick at. Then I got the bright idea to get another one so we won't be "competing" for computer time. So we bought a refurbished one off of Ebay from a place called "recoup-it". A word to the wise, stay away from these people, this company is operated by the Devil incarnate. It's a long story but we are making the best out of a bad situation.