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Comments on Revelation: “ And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them::

PloughBoy

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Not necessary in great Details. 1.Before Rapture

Or

2. Saints That are “Saved” that are in “The Great Tribulation” that has a Trouble that has never been before.

Those that will be saved By The Coming Of “The Great Armies from Heaven who are Riding White Horses, who The Angels are Gathering from the 4 Corners of The Earth. “The Harvest of That Period” before The “1000 Year Reign”
Satan will Be Bound by A Angel and Thrown in a Pit!

Please no“Hal Lindsey” I never read his materials. I rather hear your assessment of your “Read” of The Text.
 

Comments on Revelation: “ And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them :"

Not necessary in great Details. 1.Before Rapture

Or

2. Saints That are “Saved” that are in “The Great Tribulation” that has a Trouble that has never been before.

Those that will be saved By The Coming Of “The Great Armies from Heaven who are Riding White Horses, who The Angels are Gathering from the 4 Corners of The Earth. “The Harvest of That Period” before The “1000 Year Reign”
Satan will Be Bound by A Angel and Thrown in a Pit!

Please no“Hal Lindsey” I never read his materials. I rather hear your assessment of your “Read” of The Text.

'I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.'
(Dan 7:21-22) - (Daniel 7:15-28) - (Daniel 8:12 & Daniel 8:24; Daniel 11:31; Revelation 11:7)

'And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:
and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written in the book of life
of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.'
(Rev 13:7-8) - (Revelation 13:1-8)

* Compare 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12:-

2:1-3 Exhortation (Negative)
.. a) -3 The Apostacy (open)
.... b) 3- The revelation of 'the man of sin.' - The Beast from the sea, of Revelation 13:1-10

2:5-6 Exhortation (Positive)
.. a) 7. The Mystery or secret purposes of Lawlessness. - The Beast from the earth of Revelation 13:11-18.
.... b) 9-12 The character of his acts. (Compare Revelation 13:13-15)


Hello @PloughBoy,

Two Beasts:- the course of the first will be limited in its duration (42mths) , brief but brilliant. "In the midst of the week" (Daniel 9:27) will he break his covenant which he will have made with Israel, and make war against the saints (commencing with the two witnesses - Revelation 11:7), and persecute the woman (Revelation 12:13-17), It is during this time that the martyrs will be slain (Revelation 6:9; 22:4).

* Hope this is of benefit.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris


Ref: 'Commentary on Revelation' by E.W. Bullinger
 

Comments on Revelation: “ And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them :"



'I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.'
(Dan 7:21-22) - (Daniel 7:15-28) - (Daniel 8:12 & Daniel 8:24; Daniel 11:31; Revelation 11:7)

'And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:
and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written in the book of life
of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.'
(Rev 13:7-8) - (Revelation 13:1-8)

* Compare 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12:-

2:1-3 Exhortation (Negative)
.. a) -3 The Apostacy (open)
.... b) 3- The revelation of 'the man of sin.' - The Beast from the sea, of Revelation 13:1-10

2:5-6 Exhortation (Positive)
.. a) 7. The Mystery or secret purposes of Lawlessness. - The Beast from the earth of Revelation 13:11-18.
.... b) 9-12 The character of his acts. (Compare Revelation 13:13-15)


Hello @PloughBoy,

Two Beasts:- the course of the first will be limited in its duration (42mths) , brief but brilliant. "In the midst of the week" (Daniel 9:27) will he break his covenant which he will have made with Israel, and make war against the saints (commencing with the two witnesses - Revelation 11:7), and persecute the woman (Revelation 12:13-17), It is during this time that the martyrs will be slain (Revelation 6:9; 22:4).

* Hope this is of benefit.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris


Ref: 'Commentary on Revelation' by E.W. Bullinger
Let’s add it to the pudding mix.

From the seat , I am setting in, right now, The True Saints of God, are being run over with “The Gospel According To Love”. And “Sound Doctrine which consists of “Authentic” Theological Sound and a concrete approach, is dying and lying prostrate in “The ”Streets”, with a certain death.

As has been “Foretold”. By The Prophets of Old.

And it will come to be.

Well, done “Complete”.
 
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