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Christianity is not a religion!

Grace

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Christianity and Religion are opposed to each other!

Religions teaches man's ideas about God rather that what God says about Himself. It also teaches you that you can earn God's favor through works. It is grounded in man's obedience to a code of conduct or traditions. It discredits God's grace and the benefits of Christ salvation. A religious person tries to gain His acceptance through spiritual performance! This makes them feel like they are contributing something. Religion is based on spiritual pride!

True faith in Christ destroys our pride by replacing what we can do with what Jesus has done! So true Christianity places man in a position of receiving what God has already provided. God takes the burden of salvation and puts man in a place of rest. It is free! unmerited!

Religion destroys true Biblical faith....
Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on earth? (Luke 18:8)
 
Great Word Grace i really enjoyed reading this post and you are right on key....................

Religion always blinds the mind to believe that one is good because of what he or she is doing. The bible says that there is none good, no not one! You are not good because of your good deeds If you are found righteous it’s only because of one thing And that one thing is your faith in the Blood of Jesus Christ that has been imputed into your account! Not on any effort of your own,

Religious man is always putting upon himself an outward adoring or an outward appearance. We can try to clothe ourselves with our own covering all we want to, just as our very first parents did Adam and eve, but God came along in Gen 3:21 and slayed an innocent animal who represented Jesus Christ who can be our only covering by faith in his blood. The fig leaves of our religious systems and games will never work. The believer must always look to Christ and what he did at the Cross.

God Bless you!
 
Great Word Grace i really enjoyed reading this post and you are right on key....................

Religion always blinds the mind to believe that one is good because of what he or she is doing. The bible says that there is none good, no not one! You are not good because of your good deeds If you are found righteous it’s only because of one thing And that one thing is your faith in the Blood of Jesus Christ that has been imputed into your account! Not on any effort of your own,

Religious man is always putting upon himself an outward adoring or an outward appearance. We can try to clothe ourselves with our own covering all we want to, just as our very first parents did Adam and eve, but God came along in Gen 3:21 and slayed an innocent animal who represented Jesus Christ who can be our only covering by faith in his blood. The fig leaves of our religious systems and games will never work. The believer must always look to Christ and what he did at the Cross.

God Bless you!

:groupwave:

I have started studing the Blood covenant! Such an eye opener! So many truths!

Once we understand the truths behind the new covenant we then can become bold, not in an prideful way like we have done something! But because we understand who we are "in Christ" more than who we are "without Christ." Just like David did when he stood and confronted Goliath...David knew who His God was (Ps. 91).
 
Great Job! Keep pressing on,

I did a study on what i feel are four great truths that every
believer should know, its on my blog......Great seeing people
like yourself on fire for the Lord God Bless you
 
Great Job! Keep pressing on,

I did a study on what i feel are four great truths that every
believer should know, its on my blog......Great seeing people
like yourself on fire for the Lord God Bless you

Just read your blog! I think we are on the same page! I do love to study about God and His ways! The more I learn the more I stand in awe of Him!
 
Exactly! Our God is a Awesome God, It was the Apostle Paul that said Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
 
words of the world

Religion always blinds the mind to believe that one is good because of what he or she is doing.
Amen.

Religion:
Webster's Collegiate Dictionary traces the word back to an old Latin word religio meaning "taboo, restraint." A deeper study discovers the word comes from the two words re and ligare. Re is a prefix meaning "return," and ligare means "to bind;" in other words, "return to bondage." Do you still want some of that "old-time religion"?

Nonetheless, a sneakier truth is that the word "Christianity" is also used in error.

How and when was the word "Christian" first used? The term 'Christian' was used to describe a follower of Christ in terms of the world, from the world’s point of view. The pagans at Antioch called the apostles "Christians" first (Acts 11:26; 26:28) and used it derogatorily because the apostles didn’t follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting to describe, and which the pagan user cannot see.

Christ never called himself a Christian, Christ never called his followers Christians. The apostles never called each other Christians. Christ never used an adjective to describe himself. So how are we to identify ourselves then? The disciples called each other, "brethren", "disciples", "apostles", "servants", "believers", "followers", "the faithful", "the elect", "the called", and "saints." We can also identify ourselves as "bondservants" of Christ.

The servants of Christ belong to the kingdom of God. If you do not belong to a certain kingdom, you are labeled or named by that kingdom to be of another kingdom. For example, people in the continent (kingdom) of North America call those from the continent (kingdom) of South America, South Americans; from Asia, Asians; from Africa, Africans; from Europe, Europeans. But South Americans don’t call themselves South Americans, Asians don’t call themselves Asians. Africans don’t call themselves Africans, and Europeans don’t call themselves Europeans. Do North Americans call themselves North Americans? When you introduce yourself to somebody, do you say, "Hi! I’m a North American!" No, you don’t, because those from the same kingdom do not place labels on themselves or others. If you are a constituent of a Kingdom, you do not name one in the same Kingdom any thing; but you call them according to the relation between the two of you (brother, sister, mother, father, workman, labourer, minister, bishop, deacon, etc). And who establishes the relation? The Lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22, James 4:12).

The term "Christian" was imposed upon the servants of Christ by Christ’s enemies living outside the Kingdom of God, to label those living in the Kingdom of God. Servants of Christ should not call themselves Christians, since this would imply that we are not from the Kingdom of God. Just like someone in Asia would not call themselves ‘Asians’, those living in Christ should not call themselves ‘Christians,’ because it would give the impression to others that you are from a different kingdom.

1 John 4:5,
"They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world…"

As scripture says, those who are of the world speak of the world, and use the words of the world. By using the words of the world, or by using the words of another kingdom, you identify yourself as being of that kingdom. And, since the word "Christian" is a term of the world, it might be best to use the words of God to describe us.

"Christian: A follower of the religion of Christ [Note carefully that Christ never started a religion - John 7:16]. It is probable that the name Christian, like that of Nazarenes and Galileans, was given to the disciples of our Lord in reproach or contempt. What confirms this opinion is, that the people of Antioch in Syria, Acts 11:26, where they were first called Christians observed by Zosimus, Procopius, and Zonaras, to have been remarkable for their scurrilous jesting. Some have indeed thought that this name was given by the disciples to themselves; others, that it was imposed on them by divine authority; in either of which cases we should have met with it in the subsequent history of the Acts, and in the Apostolic Epistles, all of which were written some years after; whereas it is found but in two more places in the New Testament, Acts 26:28, where a Jew is the speaker, and in 1 Peter 4:16, where reference appears to be made to the name as imposed on them by their enemies. The word used, Acts 11:26, signifies simply to be called or named, and when Doddridge and a few others take to imply a divine appointment, they disregard the usus loquendi [established acceptation of the term] which gives no support to that opinion. The words Tacitus, when speaking of the Christians persecuted by Nero, are remarkable, ‘vulgus Christianos appellabat,’ ‘the vulgar call them Christians.’ Epiphanius says, that they were called Jesseans, either from Jesse, the father of David, or, which is much more probable, from the name of Jesus, whose disciples they were. They were denominated Christians, A. D. 42 or 43; and though the name was first given reproachfully, they gloried in it, as expressing their adherence to Christ, and they soon generally accepted it." Richard Watson, Watson’s Bible Dictionary (1832), p. 233.

"Cristianos, Christian: a word formally not after the Greek but after the Roman manner, denoting attachment to or adherents to Christ. Only occurs as used by others of them, not by Christians of themselves. Tacitus (A.D. 96) says (Annals 15, 44), ‘The vulgar call them Christians. The author or origin of this denomination, Christus, had, in the reign of Tiberius been executed by the procurator, Pontius Pilate.’" Ethelbert William Bullinger, A Critical Lexicon and Concordance of the English and Greek New Testament (1908), p. 152.


"This name (Christian) occurs but three times in the New Testament, and is never used by Christians of themselves, only as spoken by or coming from those without the church. The general names by which the early Christians called themselves were ‘brethren,’ ‘disciples,’ ‘believers,’ and ‘saints.’ The presumption is that the name ‘Christian’ was originated by the heathen." Thomas W. Doane, Bible Myths (1882), page 567, note 3.


"The name (Christian) given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch." Easton’s Bible Dictionary.


"Egypt, which you commanded to me, my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent, and continually wafted about every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis (here) are called Christians, and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find), call themselves Bishops of Christ." The Emperor Adrian to Servianus, written A.D. 134.


If you go to Zodhiates Word Studies, he tells you that when they were called Christians at Antioch, using the word ‘crematezo,’ it was a "divine warning." In other words, be forewarned, avoid this word and the use of it. And that’s what the apostles did. You will never read any of these New Testament writers using the term ‘christian’ to describe themselves.

1 Peter 4:16, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."

First of all, keep in mind this is the one and only place in the entire scripture this word is used by any man of God. Secondly, Peter did not label the followers of Christ a "Christian" in the passage. Read it again, very carefully. He said they were to be "as a Christian." This is very important. The word as means "like or similar to," but it does not mean one is that word. For example:


Genesis 49:9,
"...he couched as a lion," does not mean Judah was a lion when he couched!

Exodus 15:5,
"...they sank into the bottom as a stone," does not mean they were a stone when they sank.

Matthew 17:20,
"...If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed," does not mean faith is a mustard seed.

Matthew 23:37,
"...gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens," does not mean God's children were chickens.

Ephesians 5:25,
"Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ," does not mean husbands are Christ when they love their wives.

And, therefore:


1 Peter 4:16,
"Yet if any man suffer as a Christian," does not mean man is a Christian when they suffer.

When someone is "as" something else, it does not mean one is that something. It means we are similar, in some way, to that name, but we are not literally that name. You see, the heathens are the ones who called the followers of Christ "Christians" (Acts 11:26; 26:28). When Peter was referring to the title "Christian, " it is in the context of suffering, and is in reference to the name as imposed upon them by their enemies, because our enemies want us to suffer.


 
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Amen.

Religion: Webster's Collegiate Dictionary traces the word back to an old Latin word religio meaning "taboo, restraint." A deeper study discovers the word comes from the two words re and ligare. Re is a prefix meaning "return," and ligare means "to bind;" in other words, "return to bondage." Do you still want some of that "old-time religion"?

Nonetheless, a sneakier truth is that the word "Christianity" is also used in error.

How and when was the word "Christian" first used? The term 'Christian' was used to describe a follower of Christ in terms of the world, from the world’s point of view. The pagans at Antioch called the apostles "Christians" first (Acts 11:26; 26:28) and used it derogatorily because the apostles didn’t follow the commercial world of the pagans. "Christian" is an adjective, not a noun. The substance is not in the word "Christian", the substance is in the heart of the man it is attempting to describe, and which the pagan user cannot see.

Christ never called himself a Christian, Christ never called his followers Christians. The apostles never called each other Christians. Christ never used an adjective to describe himself. So how are we to identify ourselves then? The disciples called each other, "brethren", "disciples", "apostles", "servants", "believers", "followers", "the faithful", "the elect", "the called", and "saints." We can also identify ourselves as "bondservants" of Christ.

The servants of Christ belong to the kingdom of God. If you do not belong to a certain kingdom, you are labeled or named by that kingdom to be of another kingdom. For example, people in the continent (kingdom) of North America call those from the continent (kingdom) of South America, South Americans; from Asia, Asians; from Africa, Africans; from Europe, Europeans. But South Americans don’t call themselves South Americans, Asians don’t call themselves Asians. Africans don’t call themselves Africans, and Europeans don’t call themselves Europeans. Do North Americans call themselves North Americans? When you introduce yourself to somebody, do you say, "Hi! I’m a North American!" No, you don’t, because those from the same kingdom no not place labels on themselves or others. If you are a constituent of a Kingdom, you do not name one in the same Kingdom any thing; but you call them according to the relation between the two of you (brother, sister, mother, father, workman, labourer, minister, bishop, deacon, etc). And who establishes the relation? The Lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22, James 4:12).

The term "Christian" was imposed upon the servants of Christ by Christ’s enemies living outside the Kingdom of God, to label those living in the Kingdom of God. Servants of Christ should not call themselves Christians, since this would imply that we are not from the Kingdom of God. Just like someone in Asia would not call themselves ‘Asians’, those living in Christ should not call themselves ‘Christians,’ because it would give the impression to others that you are from a different kingdom.

1 John 4:5, "They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world…"

As scripture says, those who are of the world speak of the world, and use the words of the world. By using the words of the world, or by using the words of another kingdom, you identify yourself as being of that kingdom. And, since the word "Christian" is a term of the world, it might be best to use the words of God to describe us.

"Christian: A follower of the religion of Christ [Note carefully that Christ never started a religion - John 7:16]. It is probable that the name Christian, like that of Nazarenes and Galileans, was given to the disciples of our Lord in reproach or contempt. What confirms this opinion is, that the people of Antioch in Syria, Acts 11:26, where they were first called Christians observed by Zosimus, Procopius, and Zonaras, to have been remarkable for their scurrilous jesting. Some have indeed thought that this name was given by the disciples to themselves; others, that it was imposed on them by divine authority; in either of which cases we should have met with it in the subsequent history of the Acts, and in the Apostolic Epistles, all of which were written some years after; whereas it is found but in two more places in the New Testament, Acts 26:28, where a Jew is the speaker, and in 1 Peter 4:16, where reference appears to be made to the name as imposed on them by their enemies. The word used, Acts 11:26, signifies simply to be called or named, and when Doddridge and a few others take to imply a divine appointment, they disregard the usus loquendi [established acceptation of the term] which gives no support to that opinion. The words Tacitus, when speaking of the Christians persecuted by Nero, are remarkable, ‘vulgus Christianos appellabat,’ ‘the vulgar call them Christians.’ Epiphanius says, that they were called Jesseans, either from Jesse, the father of David, or, which is much more probable, from the name of Jesus, whose disciples they were. They were denominated Christians, A. D. 42 or 43; and though the name was first given reproachfully, they gloried in it, as expressing their adherence to Christ, and they soon generally accepted it." Richard Watson, Watson’s Bible Dictionary (1832), p. 233.

"Cristianos, Christian: a word formally not after the Greek but after the Roman manner, denoting attachment to or adherents to Christ. Only occurs as used by others of them, not by Christians of themselves. Tacitus (A.D. 96) says (Annals 15, 44), ‘The vulgar call them Christians. The author or origin of this denomination, Christus, had, in the reign of Tiberius been executed by the procurator, Pontius Pilate.’" Ethelbert William Bullinger, A Critical Lexicon and Concordance of the English and Greek New Testament (1908), p. 152.

"This name (Christian) occurs but three times in the New Testament, and is never used by Christians of themselves, only as spoken by or coming from those without the church. The general names by which the early Christians called themselves were ‘brethren,’ ‘disciples,’ ‘believers,’ and ‘saints.’ The presumption is that the name ‘Christian’ was originated by the heathen." Thomas W. Doane, Bible Myths (1882), page 567, note 3.

"The name (Christian) given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch." Easton’s Bible Dictionary.

"Egypt, which you commanded to me, my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent, and continually wafted about every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis (here) are called Christians, and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find), call themselves Bishops of Christ." The Emperor Adrian to Servianus, written A.D. 134.

If you go to Zodhiates Word Studies, he tells you that when they were called Christians at Antioch, using the word ‘crematezo,’ it was a "divine warning." In other words, be forewarned, avoid this word and the use of it. And that’s what the apostles did. You will never read any of these New Testament writers using the term ‘christian’ to describe themselves.

1 Peter 4:16, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."

First of all, keep in mind this is the one and only place in the entire scripture this word is used by any man of God. Secondly, Peter did not label the followers of Christ a "Christian" in the passage. Read it again, very carefully. He said they were to be "as a Christian." This is very important. The word as means "like or similar to," but it does not mean one is that word. For example:

Genesis 49:9, "...he couched as a lion," does not mean Judah was a lion when he couched!

Exodus 15:5, "...they sank into the bottom as a stone," does not mean they were a stone when they sank.

Matthew 17:20, "...If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed," does not mean faith is a mustard seed.

Matthew 23:37, "...gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens," does not mean God's children were chickens.

Ephesians 5:25, "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ," does not mean husbands are Christ when they love their wives.

And, therefore:

1 Peter 4:16, "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian," does not mean man is a Christian when they suffer.

When someone is "as" something else, it does not mean one is that something. It means we are similar, in some way, to that name, but we are not literally that name. You see, the heathens are the ones who called the followers of Christ "Christians" (Acts 11:26; 26:28). When Peter was referring to the title "Christian, " it is in the context of suffering, and is in reference to the name as imposed upon them by their enemies, because our enemies want us to suffer.


I have heard most of this..and it is true christian is what others called those that followed Christ!
 
The blood of Jesus~

God made covenants with His people..verbal was the first one made with Adam and Eve. After they sinned God always made a blood covenant. "...the life of the flesh is in the blood." It would remind us that someone or something had to give up its life as a result of our sin and rebellion toward God. Death is a consequence of our sin! Our sins are what crucified Jesus at the cross.

The price for our rebellion was paid. Justice demanded it! The sad part is that most people have rejected what Jesus freely did for us...and have chosen to die for their own sins.
 
The blood covenant.

Blood covenants go both ways. To break a blood covenant something must die.

God's word to those that believe and trust in him must be performed.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
Blood covenants go both ways. To break a blood covenant something must die.

God's word to those that believe and trust in him must be performed.

Jesus Is Lord.

THere are two types of Blood covenants...
Yes! to break a covenant guaranteed death!
Blood covenants are not understood here in the western cultures. But in tribal cultures and those where the Bible was written were firmly grounded in blood covenant.

Union is a good word to describe a blood covenant...where two parties become one. In this union all assets, liabilities and resources become common. An exchanged life. The institution of marriage is a good example of this. They become one flesh and on their wedding night blood is shed to consumate the marriage.

Blood covenant is from the Hebrew word "berith" meaning a covenant by cutting where blood flows. Sometimes referred to as "cutting of the covenant."

The ceremony goes something like this:
1. An animal is sacrificed- it is cut in half down the center, they are separated and a pool of blood between them.
2. The exchange of coats- a coat was a sign of the tribes identity and authority. "Every thing I am, everything I represent now belongs to you."
3. The exchange of weapon belts-This declared that "All my strength now belongs to you. My enemies are now your enemies."
4. The exchange of names- This demostrated a death to being an individual. Union of two people, you care for your blood brother the same as you care for yourself.
5. The walk of blood-Each person would walk a path in the shape of a figure eight between the halves of dead animal. They would stop in the middle and speak the blessings and curses of the covenant. The one who breaks this covenant will die just like this animal has died. A pledge was also made that said, "Just as this animal gave its life so I will give my life for you if necessary."
6. The cut of the covenant- A knife is used to make an incision in the palm or wrist of each participant. Blood would flow freely and they would handshake allowing the blood to intermingle. Some times they would mix the blood in a cup of wine and drink from the cup. The marks on their wrist would be a permanent mark and identified them as "covenant man."
7. The covenant meal-Usually of bread and wine. They would feed each other.."all that I am is coming into you."

This would close the ceremony and a new relationship is born...a love relationship! It is called "Hesed" in Hebrew and "Agape" in the Greek. A love that says I will never leave you or forsake you!

I found this interesting! But there is another covenant called an unequal covenant. This is where one participant had nothing and the other one has an abundance of resources. One does all the giving and one does all the receiving! This covenant is called "Diatheke" in Greek.."This cup is the New Covenant in My blood, which is shed for you," the word covenant here is the Greek word "diatheke."
 
True & Pure Religion

After all this talk about, "Christianity isn't a Religion!"
I am beginning to think differently. Like, I understand how these other religions are wrong compared to ours but...

what about James 1:27?

"False religion is doing things (rules and rituals) in order to try to earn God’s favor. True religion is receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and thereby having a right relationship with God – and then doing things (rules and rituals) out of love for God and desire to grow closer to Him."
---gotquestions.org

So for me now, Christianity is not a religion, it is TRUE Religion!
 
After all this talk about, "Christianity isn't a Religion!"
I am beginning to think differently. Like, I understand how these other religions are wrong compared to ours but...

what about James 1:27?

"False religion is doing things (rules and rituals) in order to try to earn God’s favor. True religion is receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and thereby having a right relationship with God – and then doing things (rules and rituals) out of love for God and desire to grow closer to Him."
---gotquestions.org

So for me now, Christianity is not a religion, it is TRUE Religion!

Ok..I can see that!
Two different religions...and I think it started back in the garden!

Cain and Able as they brought there offering (expression of worship) to the Lord...one God had respect for and the other he did not. Cain offered God a bloodless sacrifice, one that he labored and worked hard at...where Able offered a blood sacrifice, something that he did not labor at that much to produce (Sheeps life and blood sacrifice).

Cains way of offering (worship/religion) looks good and its foundation is hard work. There relationship with God is based on things they have done.."The more I do, the more He will accept me..and the bigger my reward will be." Blood has nothing to do with his worship.

Ables way of offering (worship/religion) is through faith in the blood. There work is based on different reasons. They do not rely on sacrifices or works they have made or preformed. They claim that righteousness they have received is a result of the shed blood of Jesus. (Rom:4:3-8; Heb. 12:22-25)

Notice too with this story that it is Cain that murders Able...Cains religion will always persecute or try to discredit the religion of Able. Most of these attacks today come from within the churches through slander and verbal attacks.
 
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