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Can a false prophet be forgiven?

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Unworthy Servant
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Greetings Frank,

So what about somebody that has enough knowlege about the truth to be considered Christian
'knowledge about' does not equate to knowing Him and likewise is not a measure of being Christian


Bless you ....><>
 
Loyal
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So what about somebody that has enough knowlege about the truth to be considered Christian but still has blasphemous thoughts?
Can anything be forgiven except the will full turning of mind, and actions against the Most High?

Knowledge can be dangerous brother.

There are many Head Christians in the world, some are academic, have qualifications, they can be good speakers, they can be Pastors, Vicars, Ministers, but if they are not born again (Heart Christians) they are not saved.

Having enough knowledge about The Truth does not save us.
 
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Knowledge can be dangerous brother.

There are many Head Christians in the world, some are academic, have qualifications, they can be good speakers, they can be Pastors, Vicars, Ministers, but if they are not born again (Heart Christians) they are not saved.

Having enough knowledge about The Truth does not save us.
What do you consider Intimate when Christians like us say..
"You must have a personal intimate relationship with Jesus"
I dont understand I know it means close, and I know I tell the Lord about everything that happens..
Can a Christian not have knowledge like most but still be considered Christian?
What should a growing Christian feel about knowlege?
 
Loyal
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

In the history of the world, knowledge about the truth has never set anyone free; it is not until you "know the truth" that it sets a man free. The knowledge of the truth can only be given by the truth that reveals it. Jesus is the "way, the truth, and the life"

Knowing the truth (who Jesus is) is having an intimate relationship with Jesus.
 
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What do you consider Intimate when Christians like us say..
"You must have a personal intimate relationship with Jesus"
I dont understand I know it means close, and I know I tell the Lord about everything that happens..
Can a Christian not have knowledge like most but still be considered Christian?
What should a growing Christian feel about knowlege?
Greetings Frank,

Ask Jesus my friend, what does he say?

Pray the Lord will speak to your heart, that scripture will reveal the Truth, then allow scripture to speak to your heart my friend.

John 15:1-27 (NKJV)
1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.
4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.
9 "As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love.
10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
11 These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you.
16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.
17 These things I command you, that you love one another.
18 "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
20 Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things they will do to you for My name's sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me.
22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
23 He who hates Me hates My Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father.
25 But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, 'They hated Me without a cause.'
26 "But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.
27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning.

Intimacy is closest possible, you cannot get any closer than abiding in him and allowing him to abide in you.

Basically it is total submission to Jesus, sap cannot run through to the branches unless the branches are truly grafted into the vine.

Bless you.
 
Loyal
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Can a Christian not have knowledge like most but still be considered Christian?
What should a growing Christian feel about knowlege?

In answer to your first sentence Frank, Yes.

We all have some knowledge, we learn every day. But if the knowledge of The Truth in The Word is in the head and not the heart it is void.

How do we know if a person is a head Christian or a heart Christian, that is a good question. There are head Christians who come over caring and compassionate, but this doesn't mean Jesus is in their heart. I have come across many that seem compassionate and misguide the flock with their replies, especially when someone is in a traumatic time or grieving. We are told we can tell a tree by its fruit, this is very true, but an apple can look good but be rotten inside, sometimes it takes time to see the real fruit.

We are not to judge, but observe the fruit, the good apple continues to look good for a while, but could be being eaten away inside. Eventually the fruit will show it's true colour.

It is all down to the heart, not the head, yes we have to read The Word and digest it, if we don't take it in, we cannot give it out. If The Word (Jesus) is not in the heart, the heart is spiritually dead.

Trust in the Lord brother, lean not on your own understanding, Jesus loves you we do too.

Jesus says, abide in me (The Word) and I (The Word) will abide in you.

John 15:10-11
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
 
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7 Surely the Lord God does nothing without revealing His purpose to His servants the prophets.
8 The lion has roared; who will not fear? The Lord God has spoken; who can but prophesy?
Amos 3

He said to them, “O fools! And slow of heart to believe what the prophets have spoken!
Luke 24:25

1 Follow after love and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
2 For he who speaks in an unknown tongue does not speak to men, but to God. For no one understands him, although in the spirit, he speaks mysteries.
3 But he who prophesies speaks to men for their edification and exhortation and comfort.
4 He who speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
5 I desire that you all speak in tongues, but even more that you prophesy.
For greater is he who prophesies than he who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edification.
1 Cor 14

19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Examine all things. Firmly hold onto what is good.
1 Thessalonians 5

 

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