Calling All Who Have Been Abused !!!!

[Mike]

I was in prayer and the Father in heaven spoke to me and said enough is enough ! He told me that the Healing power of Jesus Christ is for those who belong to him and are wounded . I am asking anyone who has suffered sexuall abuse to post the truth about this devil and tell the people here how evil this thing has been in you're life ! Do not be affraid to say it ! The devil has been holding you in this shame for too long ! Tell the devil no more ! This is the house of God !!!! This is a place for his children to get healed from these sexuall devils ! Do not let the devil bind you in secret anymore . Come out and get the healing in you're soul that Jesus Christ Died For !!! He showed me that there were many who need healing from the past encounters with these sexuall predaters ! I will pray for you ! Stop letting the devil say how free you are , and tell him in Jesus Name You Are FREE !!! Men and Women ! POST IT NOW ! You have nothing to fear ! Mike

 

[lnrobar]

Oh goodness, God Bless you brother.
I do not know if you would classify my situatioin as sexual abuse, but it does release alot of tensions and pressures, and gets alot of things out of you that the devil can use against you.
I too at first was afraid to post my problem, but since I have, things are getting better.

Oh and praise God, I do not feel that I have not forgiven my step-brother. I feel a peace entering my life, so for those of you who have prayed for peace, THANK YOU SOO MUCH, and this is a good blessing for you as well.

Man! Thats why I love this site!
But Like BROTHERSINARMST4G said, don't be afraid to share with us your story, your life, and your problems. We are here to lift one another up, and share with them the experiences. To go through tough times and good times with you.

God Bless
Sis in Christ
Lnrobar

 

[Mike]

God Bless You Sister !!! I pray that you're strenght to come out and exspose this ugly devil will cause many here to be strong and know that Gods love was meant for those who are his children first ! Jesus said that if you deny me in the earth , then He will deny you before the Father who provided all things for you !!! God Bless You ! Mike :boy_hug:

 

[Chad]

Thank you brothersinarms You know my issues as we already discussed them.

GOD showed brother Mike the other day in prayer thoughts what I was/have been going through. My main is my hearing problem. GOD showed Mike that the devil has been tormenting me since I was a young child with low self esteem. This is true. Well, in all truth even though it stains in my heart til this day, what ovecomes this is the power in the blood of the LAMB! Praise Jesus. His love ALWAYS overcomes any issues in line, ANY!

The devil tries, well guess what? I'll be laughing at you forever with Jesus and my family in Christ while your wicked ways fry with you in hell! Ciao!

 

[Mike]

God Bless you Chad for taking the lead in saying , God loves all of you who have been abused in any way . Mentally , or physically ! It does not matter . I too have been abused most of my childhood ! I have lost all to gain the freedom I have in Christ Jesus . Be not afraid children of God . Nobody will think badly of you here at talkjesus . This is a loving family that will love you and hold you in our arms before God Almighty !!! We are the Children of God . The thing that bothered me the most about my son , is that he was too ashamed to tell us what had happened to him . As if I would not love him ! The Father in heaven is saying the same thing to you . God is saying , I love you , and I am here for you to cry on , and get healed through my love ! Please get free now , so you can be a witness to others who are afraid to come into the throne of God , and find rest from this hidden shame and guilt . Send this devil back to where he came from , and be a light unto a very abused world ! God Bless You !!! Mike :boy_hug:

 

[sparky]

Mike i understand your feelings on this but if you were honest with yourself you are mostly angry because you were unable to stop what happened to your son.If you take your pain and times it by a hundred you would still not be close to the anguish your son and others who have been abused feel.I was 12 when i was attacked on the way home from school,dragged off my bike and molested in a field.I had some closure years later when this deviant turned up at my place of work.I had grown and he didnt recognise me,i felt like i was 12 years old again. I confided in my work mates.They sent me home early and beat the living crap out of him.Some victims never get any recompense,i felt the hand of God in this and had no sympathy for the man.

You ask members to share their experiences but the fact of the matter is many dont want to.Having typed that last paragraph i now have a tidal wave of images in my head of what this monster did to me and for how long.You want me to share that with you?The majority come here for succor and the sweet soothing words of Christ,not to rehash and re-open painful memories.If they wish to so be it,otherwise let it stay buried.Im 32 now and if im lucky can go for several weeks without thinking about it.

Lastly i come to your anger mike.Brother i say this with all sincerity that you have a problem that needs addressing.In all things we try our utmost to follow in the steps of Jesus.I believe there is a place for righteous anger as Jesus showed on occasion.You seem to be angry about something every other day.You have wrote some brilliant posts but in the ones where you get angry people do not see the wise words they see the harsh ones.You are a integral part of this site and your anger detracts from your fine works.Instead of thinking of a fiery response to my words i would beseech you to consider Proverbs 14v29,22v24 and 1 thessalonians 5v9.I am praying that we can continue in peace and you take this councel in the spirit it is given.

 

[Mike]

You can sit on the sidelines if you wish . My anger is kindled against the devil . When you have been in this for 20 years then I will listen to you . When you have completed the requirments to become a pastor , then i will listen to you . But this is over you're head . God called me to do what I am doing here . Not you . All you have done is try to rebuild the wall of reason as to why some should silently be tormented by satan . If you do not wish to help the people who need this help . Then don't .But do not speak about the things you do not know of . I have grown very tired of the Sparky Strypes , one two punch all the time . Go back into chat if you want to . But do not make walls against Gods work here . Mike

 

[Coconut]

It seems every time a man of God speaks, theres a brother or sister sitting in the corner, prepared to rebuke him because he has 'anger issues', or even worse, telling him he is not being 'loving' or the very worst, he uses words that are 'offensive' to sinners *gasp!*

"We now call iniquity -GODS WORD - is "infirmity."
Wickedness - GODS WORD- is just "weakness";
Adultery and fornication, -GODS WORD- is just "having an affair."
Lust -GODS WORD - is called "love."
Sodomy -GODS WORD- is now being "GAY."
The Harlot -GODS WORD- is inoffensively named a "female escort."

And Christians in TALK JESUS want to get all up in arms at BROTHERINARMS for calling a homesexual a "queer"? Does anyone who`s read the Holy Bible really believe the Holy God is sitting on His throne winking at the homosexual?
I wonder how much longer it will be before we begin hearing the term "christian pedofile" ...heaven forbid we should call them a devilish,
evil, venomous snake! No we must preach acceptance and love and
'bear with them' until 'someday' they get the victory. Let me tell you something, and I say this in the Spirit, and not of myself, satan already has the victory if you and I are going to take this stance. Neither fighting on the Lord`s side, (because fighting is not very christ like) nor doing what the sinner does (for that surely would`nt be christian) Neither hot, nor cold, just sitting safely in our foxholes, loving the enemies of the cross, while our comrades in Christ fall..one by one by one...
Church SHAKE YOURSELVES out of your apathy! God is angry, God is spitting out our lukewarmness, should`nt we at least get a little bit stirred up over these satanic perversions of all that is HOLY! You want to show 'love' to the sinner? Tell him the TRUTH! Quit patting the sinner on the back and coddling him and telling him he`s ok as long as he believes in God. Many a man who 'believed' in God will find himself in a sinners hell because he did`nt repent of his sin!

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. Psa 7:11
Please note, it does NOT say God is angry with sin, it says GOD IS ANGRY WITH THE SINNER!

God has no POSITIVE views of sin, and the names Jesus called the the religious naysayers were 'NOT NICE!' As a matter of fact, there`s a whole lot about Gods Word that is not 'nice'!
So let's get back to the Word, and stop forbidding the preaching of it! The soothsayers in the world are dangerous, but the "smooth-sayers" in the church are equally dangerous. The 'nonstriving' person who elects to avoid problems, by preaching only peace and love and unity, actually creates new ones, such as can easily be found in these threads.
No one will ever shine in God`s kingdom, who thinks of saying only fine and acceptable things to tickle mens ears!
Recall the words of the apostle Paul when dealing with a sexually immoral man ...

1Co 5:4 ...deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
(they may well have accused Paul of not being very loving over that statement!)

As well he sorrowfully adds...And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
(too puffed up, too busy going about being good, to get upset over sin?)
Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility ...vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.

Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses...And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
(oh...God appears to have some serious anger issues!)

2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not... (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds;)

2Co 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

Psa 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? [or] who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

 

[mymakersdaughter]

Coconut, I loved what you just wrote. Have you thought of preaching? Just a thought.

How the Church has accepted gays by providing a Church for them to come to with their lovers, how sick are we really?! When are we going to stand up and rebuke the sinner and the sin? What happened to Sparky, to Brothersinarms son, is pure evil. Let's all be angry together about this sin.
I too was sexually molested, my perpatraders never were brought to Justice as I never told anyone because of my shame. I carried the guilt, I beat myself up over it day and night for years. I am angry over what happened but God has a plan larger than I can ever imagine. I work with kids, abused kids, emotionaly distraught kids, I can recognize a victim of sexual abuse, I see it, I know it all too well. God has used me because He gets all the glory, satan wanted what happened to me for evil but I refuse to let him win, God refused to let him win. I will not be a victim. He is greater than anything I can imagine. I used to walk around with a huge chip on my shoulder waiting for someone to knock it off and I would take them apart with my words before I knew Christ. I walk in victory with Him.
Praise God.

 

[jiggyfly]

Just a note to let you know that I have read the comments in this thread and that I am praying for everyone. You all are very precious.

What do you think would happen if a homosexual visited this site? Would they feel that Salvation is presented to them here? Would they confess, repent, and receive the Lord? Is Talk Jesus a tool for reaching the lost or merely a "community" of believers?

Everyone is equal in their sin. I have ministered to murderers in prison. I held their hands. Imagine holding the hand of a murder who used their hand to kill someone.

Our sins are the same as a murder. We are cleansed by the blood of Jesus.

"But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man,..." (Matthew 15:18,19).

Jesus loves the homosexuals. He died for them, too.

Did Jesus also love Hitler, does He love Bin Laden and Saddom Hussein?

Proverbs 11:20
*The Lord hates people with twisted hearts, but he delights in those who have integrity.

Proverbs 12:22
*The Lord hates those who don’t keep their word, but he delights in those who do.

 

[mymakersdaughter]

Burgeon, the Gospel is always preached, to strait, homosexual, to all in need. I have seen sexual sin kill people.
I am sorry about the arguements, we must be united as a family.

Jesus died for all sinners.

 

[Doulos]

Did Jesus also love Hitler, does He love Bin Laden and Saddom Hussein?

Yes. Jesus Came for all mankind.
Romans 3:21-24 (NASB)
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Does not matter what youve done. If your Put your faith in God, you are forgiven. There is a possibility, much to your dismay, that Horrible people thoughout history made it into Heaven. If they truly repented before they died, they are forgiven, just as we are. Sin is Sin in God's eyes, its all deplorable, there are no levels of Sin. It can all be forgiven by repentince and Faith.

Doulos

 

[jiggyfly]

Read Coconut's post on this thread. It seems there is some uglyness at work behind the scenes here.

Galations 5:16-26
16*So I advise you to live according to your new life in the Holy Spirit. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. 17*The old sinful nature loves to do evil, which is just opposite from what the Holy Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite from what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, and your choices are never free from this conflict. 18*But when you are directed by the Holy Spirit, you are no longer subject to the law.
19*When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, your lives will produce these evil results: sexual immorality, impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure, 20 idolatry, participation in demonic activities, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, divisions, the feeling that everyone is wrong except those in your own little group, 21*envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other kinds of sin. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
22*But when the Holy Spirit controls our lives, he will produce this kind of fruit in us: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23*gentleness, and self-control. Here there is no conflict with the law.
24*Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there. 25*If we are living now by the Holy Spirit, let us follow the Holy Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives. 26 Let us not become conceited, or irritate one another, or be jealous of one another.

I don't know everyone that is involved in this argument (some haven't posted, but have worked behind the scenes), but I do know by the Holy Spirit that the root of this problem is described in Galatians 5:26 listed above. I also know by the Holy Spirit that some are happy to see BROTHERSINARMST4G loose control and act on his anger. I am not justifying his responses but they were baited for by some (meaning more than one). Some have thought they were operating in the spiritual gift of discerning of spirits but have really been overcome by suspicion which is a tool of the enemy. I believe that there are a lot of hurt feelings on all sides of this entanglement, as you work this out, and I know you will if you love God because He wants you to, be mindful of each other's hurts. If a brother or sister in the Lord do not matter to you more than someone of the world then maybe we should reconsider calling ourselves a family.

Thats all I have from God at the moment, if more should come I will post it here. May God help us all because we really need it!

 

[jiggyfly]

Yes. Jesus Came for all mankind.
Romans 3:21-24 (NASB)
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Does not matter what youve done. If your Put your faith in God, you are forgiven. There is a possibility, much to your dismay, that Horrible people thoughout history made it into Heaven. If they truly repented before they died, they are forgiven, just as we are. Sin is Sin in God's eyes, its all deplorable, there are no levels of Sin. It can all be forgiven by repentince and Faith.

Doulos

Amen. We must yield to God turn from our wickedness and embrace Christ. I cannot desire to murder or homosexuallity or stealing and have Christ, I asked the question wanting others to think.

 

[Doulos]

I cannot desire to murder or homosexuallity or stealing and have Christ,

This is another debate entirely. Temptation does not equal Sin. its Yielding to that temptation that is sinful.

--Doulos

 

[jiggyfly]

This is another debate entirely. Temptation does not equal Sin. its Yielding to that temptation that is sinful.

--Doulos

you are right bad choice of words, sorry. There is no seperating Christ, He has to be Lord and Savior. If one does not repent can one be forgiven?

 

[Coconut]

"Jesus loves the homosexuals. He died for them, too."

Yes Jesus died for the homosexual, and what a death He died,
what a bloody sacrifice for our sins He made to wash us from
ALL from our sin and filthy unrighteousness, so we could be worthy
to stand in His presence!

BUT!That`s not the whole message!

If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb 10

If we truly LOVE, we won`t try to water down this message! If you love your husband, wife, sister, brother, son, daughter, family, friend, stranger, TALK JESUS fellowship, tell them the TRUTH!
What is the TRUTH? Repent! Be born again! Be Holy as He is Holy!
Love God with all your heart, soul and strength! Abhor evil!
I`d love to hold the sinners hand and sing kum-bye-ya Lord,
but that`s like offering a band-aid to a dying man!
It will not and cannot save his soul! How those ones
you love so much will hate you, with an everlasting hatred,
if they enter into eternity unprepared to stand before a Holy
God, because you thought loving them, meant sparing telling them
the awful truth of the disease called sin they were dying from!


If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are. 1Co 3

When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Eze 3

"What do you think would happen if a homosexual visited this site? Would they feel that Salvation is presented to them here? Would they confess, repent, and receive the Lord?"

I think now they are without excuse.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

Glory to God!

 

[jiggyfly]

"Jesus loves the homosexuals. He died for them, too."

Yes Jesus died for the homosexual, and what a death He died,
what a bloody sacrifice for our sins He made to wash us from
ALL from our sin and filthy unrighteousness, so we could be worthy
to stand in His presence!

BUT!That`s not the whole message!

If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Heb 10

If we truly LOVE, we won`t try to water down this message! If you love your husband, wife, sister, brother, son, daughter, family, friend, stranger, TALK JESUS fellowship, tell them the TRUTH!
What is the TRUTH? Repent! Be born again! Be Holy as He is Holy!
Love God with all your heart, soul and strength! Abhor evil!
I`d love to hold the sinners hand and sing kum-bye-ya Lord,
but that`s like offering a band-aid to a dying man!
It will not and cannot save his soul! How those ones
you love so much will hate you, with an everlasting hatred,
if they enter into eternity unprepared to stand before a Holy
God, because you thought loving them, meant sparing telling them
the awful truth of the disease called sin they were dying from!


If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are. 1Co 3

When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Eze 3

"What do you think would happen if a homosexual visited this site? Would they feel that Salvation is presented to them here? Would they confess, repent, and receive the Lord?"

I think now they are without excuse.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

Glory to God!

Go ahead and preach it!!! what passion and power, must be the Holy Ghost!

 

[lnrobar]

The majority come here for succor and the sweet soothing words of Christ,not to rehash and re-open painful memories.If they wish to so be it,otherwise let it stay buried.Im 32 now and if im lucky can go for several weeks without thinking about it.

You know, I may not be wise, but I shared my story with all of you, and to tell you the honest truth in my heart, it takes a load of pain, anger, hatred, and confusing thoughts and feelings away. It sounds to me like you have not gave your complete trust to God. That it still hurts you when you talk about it. In my opinion, wouldn't you think that if you gave your all to Him, He would heal those open wounds of yours, and give you boldness to move on to better brighter things of God. You will still remember, because I still remember, but you will no longer hate. What I feel from reading your post is hatered, and bitterness. I am sorry if I offend you, but I felt that from your post. You still haven't let go of something. Yes, this is a place to fill up on the Word of God, and brag on God, and all that wonderful stuff. But it is also a place for healing, guidance, and truth. And if you come in with a heart that isn't willing to show it's true side, then you will never know what God's love can do. God cannot help you if you do not let Him in.

God Bless
Sis in Christ
Lnrobar

 

[Mike]

My husband told me this evening that he read a article in the Parade Magazine...Watch your language. I think that you should read it. It is about a judge who stated that a five (5) year old is responsible for her sexual abuse. The article was published on Sunday, June 5, 2005.

This is the evil that is present , and must be stopped , in Jesus name !!!
Thank you all who have posted in this thread . I pray that many wounded will find hope in the healing power of Jesus Christ !!! Mike A 5 year old responsible for being sexually abused !!! This is what I am talking about . I pray for that 5 year old who was violated by this pervert . Mike