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"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them."

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AlertChristians

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Holy Bible - Romans 12:14 (ESV)
"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them."

Christians will be persecuted. But I am not referring to those who call themselves Christians and instead are the Devil's servants.

Holy Bible - 2 Timothy 3:12 (ESV)
"Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,"
 
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Wired 4 Fishen

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AlertChristians said:
Sure. Many who identify themselves as Christians knowingly serve Satan. Some may or may not identify themselves as Christians but serve Satan unknowingly.
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All unsaved people, yes your mother's and brothers and friends who are not born again go through life under the influence of satan.

We are influenced by either God and His Word which takes being born again by His Spirit.
Or
We are influenced by the god of this world or world system. Which is everyone who is not born again by The Most Holy God's Spirit through Jesus Christ.

Now unto your remark
AlertChristians said:
Many who identify themselves as Christians knowingly serve Satan.
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Take Caution inserting the word KNOWINGLY.
For Christians are found in a vast array of Light Levels or Growth Stages.
God Does NOT hold a believer to something they have no understanding of.
We as people fall into judgment of others in the name of Jesus and are actually operating in sin.

Blessings
Wired
 
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Wired 4 Fishen said:
All unsaved people, yes your mother's and brothers and friends who are not born again go through life under the influence of satan.

We are influenced by either God and His Word which takes being born again by His Spirit.
Or
We are influenced by the god of this world or world system. Which is everyone who is not born again by The Most Holy God's Spirit through Jesus Christ.

Now unto your remark


Take Caution inserting the word KNOWINGLY.
For Christians are found in a vast array of Light Levels or Growth Stages.
God Does NOT hold a believer to something they have no understanding of.
We as people fall into judgment of others in the name of Jesus and are actually operating in sin.

Blessings
Wired
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Relatively few are Christians. Relatively many knowingly serve Satan, but call themselves Christians. Some are unknowingly serving sin and Satan.
 
amadeus2
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amadeus2

#7
And then there are some who call themselves Christians but are deluded. We all need to check in with the Master to be sure that we have not moved into delusion. Love makes the difference, but how can we be sure that we continued to stand with our first love?
 
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amadeus2 said:
And then there are some who call themselves Christians but are deluded. We all need to check in with the Master to be sure that we have not moved into delusion. Love makes the difference, but how can we be sure that we continued to stand with our first love?
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Christians need to be around each other, separate from unbelievers. This best makes it possible to love as commanded. Satan's system currently has believers separated and surrounded by unbelievers.

Thus, Christians should physically move to at least one common plot of land to be neighbors and roommates, to worship and serve together, etc. This is scripturally founded, and I write about this in my thread "Christians - Believers are to Go Out from Unbelievers and be Separate from Them". Please post discussion about this in my thread. See link below.

Christians - Believers are to Go Out from Unbelievers and be Separate from Them
 
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JesusIs4Me

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AlertChristians said:
Sure. Many who identify themselves as Christians knowingly serve Satan. Some may or may not identify themselves as Christians but serve Satan unknowingly.
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You mean like John Calvin that had a Christian heretic executed rather than excommunicating him from the assembly?

John 16:1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Pretty sure a lot of believers would say that John Calvin is saved regardless, but His words does give judgment that he was not abiding in Him at that time when he condone the execution of a heretic. Whether he had asked for forgiveness from the Lord later on in life or on his deathbed, nobody knows except the Lord Jesus Christ, but if he had not departed of that iniquity which would be still on that foundation laid by Jesus Christ, then he will be denied by the Bridegroom to attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb in Heaven in being received as a vessel unto honor in His House. Those professing Him but denied by Him in being left behind is done because that work of iniquity is actually denying Him for why He does them.

This is not a testimony that they were never saved, but that is God's way of excommunicating unrepentant but saved believers from eating with those abiding in Him as His disciples at the Marriage Supper. That is where the vessels unto dishonor comes from that are still in His House but left behind as vessels unto dishonor. That is why the call to depart from iniquity is given even to former believers in 2 Timothy 2:18-21 KJV because He still abides in former believers in 2 Timothy 2:13 KJV
 
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