Bible Study Question

[TheAristocrat]

Hi, I was just wondering what your thoughts are on the Bible study program BibleWorks. Seeing as I am mostly on my laptop, it would really be useful to have a Bible study program on here. Are there any better Bible study software that you could recommend? Any help most appreciated

God bless

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Hi, I was just wondering what your thoughts are on the Bible study program BibleWorks. Seeing as I am mostly on my laptop, it would really be useful to have a Bible study program on here. Are there any better Bible study software that you could recommend? Any help most appreciated

God bless

I'm wondering why anybody would use bible study software..Wouldn't there be a danger of the person forgetting to listen the the teacher he was given? The Holy Spirit? :shock:

 

[TheAristocrat]

I see what you're saying, but what you're suggesting could happen is happening on a massive in general with "christians" that don't use software. And after all, what could be more worthwhile than studying the words from God himself. And he said himself that his children are being destroyed through a lack of knowledge. I personally want to understand the Bible as best as I am able to, and will use any means to do so.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

I see what you're saying, but what you're suggesting could happen is happening on a massive in general with "christians" that don't use software. And after all, what could be more worthwhile than studying the words from God himself. And he said himself that his children are being destroyed through a lack of knowledge. I personally want to understand the Bible as best as I am able to, and will use any means to do so.

Of course you do. Just NEVER forget your prime teacher OK?

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Of course you do. Just NEVER forget your prime teacher OK?

Well...I installed Bibleworks 8 onto my computer and tried it out.

My assessment? Its not good. How can I say it without offending? I don't know if its possible so put a stick between your teeth and bite down hard.

Although it gives you some of the meanings of the words 99% of it puts you into Commentaries.

Commentaries are nothing more than men's opinions. They may look good and sound good but they can lead you into total confusion. If you want to learn Gods Word stay away from commentaries and look to the Holy Spirit. That's why he is dwelling in us, in part, to be our teacher, and mentor. Nowhere in Gods Word does He promise to send us commentaries to be our teachers.

So? I scrapped the silly program. Its garbage. :shock:

 

[RJ]

Yes.
Go to real answers.net and explore the truth!

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Yes.
Go to real answers.net and explore the truth!

What's realanswers.net? It looks like the Gong show

That address took me to an Ask search window. grin I consider ASK to be little more than spam.

 

[RJ]

UOTE=El Hombre viejo;163978]What's realanswers.net? It looks like the Gong show

That address took me to an Ask search window. grin I consider ASK to be little more than spam.[/QUOTE]

That's: http://www.realanswers.net


Works for me!

 

[El Hombre viejo]

UOTE=El Hombre viejo;163978]What's realanswers.net? It looks like the Gong show

That address took me to an Ask search window. grin I consider ASK to be little more than spam.

That's: Cpanel Web Hosting | Managed Dedicated Servers | Virtual Private Servers.realanswers.net


Works for me![/QUOTE]


Ahhh That one woiks. I'll check it out.

 

[Hekuran]

Commentaries are nothing more than men's opinions.

Some - most - commentaries are the work of men and women who have dedicated themselves to spirit-filled study of the scriptures.

The Bible is a very complex book. A good commentary can be enormously helpful in drawing out the meaning of a passage of scripture, helping to understand the cultures and historical background of the background, guiding us around difficulties with translations, and so on.

A commentary used well can be like a good guidebook to a city. If you spend your time in a foreign city looking at the guidebook, only occasionally glancing at the sights and sounds around you, then it would be fair to say that the guide has detracted from your visit: you would have been better off leaving the guidebook at your hotel and exploring on your own.

If you use the guidebook to help you discover more about a city, to lead you to places that you would not be likely to find, and to make better sense of what you see, then the guide has done its job well.

Used well, a good commentary will shine light on the Bible, to aid us in prayerfully understanding, absorbing and applying what we read. I can see no reason to reject the research, discoveries and wisdom of others.

All that said, I don't use Bible study software myself. I find ink and paper easier to handle.

 

[RJ]

I'm wondering why anybody would use bible study software..Wouldn't there be a danger of the person forgetting to listen the the teacher he was given? The Holy Spirit? :shock:

I agree, the Holy Spirit should be the center of our discernment but, saying that, there is the church. The church is not just our own church but the church universal and, guess what, it is full of humans!

We are all called to use our own gifts from God, some teach, some prophecy and there are many others. But we are all to witness and disciple one another.

I have learned much from others, including commentaries but, I have found many a commentary that I disagreed with. My disagreement has come from finding a commentary that interested me, and then, studying and praying over it. If the commentary can fulfill my "over all" understanding of the Bible, then I will treat it positively.

Here is and example for me: 1 John 1: 9

I had once worried about this verse for sometime. My issue, was on face value (taken out of context) it bothered me because it did not fit in with my understanding of the "finality of the cross"....that Jesus died for all sin and that God said he would look at them no more!

Many a commentary told me that 1 John 1:9 was proof that we must continually ask God for forgiveness. I had a feeling of rejection, because I knew I was not capable asking for forgiveness perfectly 24/7 but, finally, I put it together.

From:

• The finality of the cross
• Further study showed me another commentary that fit in better with my over all understanding of the gospel: that John, was preaching to Gnostics at this time. That Gnostics didn't believe Jesus was actually real and that they did not have sin. In, 1 John 1:9, John was telling Gnostics that they had to repent to receive forgiveness of their sins.

I love commentaries and have learned much from them but, never, with out the Holy Spirit by my side.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Some - most - commentaries are the work of men and women who have dedicated themselves to spirit-filled study of the scriptures.

The Bible is a very complex book. A good commentary can be enormously helpful in drawing out the meaning of a passage of scripture, helping to understand the cultures and historical background of the background, guiding us around difficulties with translations, and so on.

A commentary used well can be like a good guidebook to a city. If you spend your time in a foreign city looking at the guidebook, only occasionally glancing at the sights and sounds around you, then it would be fair to say that the guide has detracted from your visit: you would have been better off leaving the guidebook at your hotel and exploring on your own.

If you use the guidebook to help you discover more about a city, to lead you to places that you would not be likely to find, and to make better sense of what you see, then the guide has done its job well.

Used well, a good commentary will shine light on the Bible, to aid us in prayerfully understanding, absorbing and applying what we read. I can see no reason to reject the research, discoveries and wisdom of others.

All that said, I don't use Bible study software myself. I find ink and paper easier to handle.

Let the bible be the commentary on the bible. The Word teaches the Word.

 

[Hekuran]

That's a helpful description of how commentaries can help RJ. I have similar stories.

Disagreeing with a commentary can be very useful too. Quite often I have found myself unable to accept what a commentator is saying, and that has led to deeper and more urgent reading of the scriptures. Sometimes it has led to me changing my mind, sometimes confirming my original beliefs.

I find it difficult to fully accept that anyone has the Holy Spirit as their only teacher. We are all influenced by our peers, the culture we have grown up in, the sermons and bible teaching we have heard, the songs we sing, our own personal preferences, and so on.

The answer is not to reject all these things - none of us are blank canvases - but to submit all these things to the lordship of Christ and to the authority of his word.

 

[jiggyfly]

Let the bible be the commentary on the bible. The Word teaches the Word.

What about apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers, do we still need them and if so why do we need them?

 

[10stepsback]

I just bought the Parallell commentary book which has the KJV on the left margain and then the commentaries of Steurgen, Wesley and Henry across the rest of the pages. Gives a good insight into the text and mans opinion. I look books, I guess I am old fashioned that way. A bunch of laptaps around a table seems less intimate to me.

 

[El Hombre viejo]

What about apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers, do we still need them and if so why do we need them?

Hey Jigger! The apostles shared the Word We need them. Prophets must line up with the Word or they are not prophets. If they line up we need them. Evangelists, pastors and teachers are needed but they are dangerous, in my opinion, because they infuse the Word with a lot of hype, myth, and downright baloney. They too MUST line up with the Word!.
Everything must line up with the Word or its not the truth that you are looking for.

Notice? I said "in my opinion"? That makes this a commentary. Don't pay any attention to it!

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Happy Returns

Now let me ask you a question in return Jigger....Why is it that so many Christians will ignore the Holy Spirit and concentrate on commentaries?

I attended a bible study for several weeks. Wednesday evenings. The leader insisted on going by commentaries and insisted they were right, choosing to believe them over the Word which contradicted said commentaries.

So....Tell me why? :shade:

 

[jiggyfly]

Hey Jigger! The apostles shared the Word We need them. Prophets must line up with the Word or they are not prophets. If they line up we need them. Evangelists, pastors and teachers are needed but they are dangerous, in my opinion, because they infuse the Word with a lot of hype, myth, and downright baloney. They too MUST line up with the Word!.
Everything must line up with the Word or its not the truth that you are looking for.

Notice? I said "in my opinion"? That makes this a commentary. Don't pay any attention to it!

Happy Returns
Now let me ask you a question in return Jigger....Why is it that so many Christians will ignore the Holy Spirit and concentrate on commentaries?

I attended a bible study for several weeks. Wednesday evenings. The leader insisted on going by commentaries and insisted they were right, choosing to believe them over the Word which contradicted said commentaries.

So....Tell me why?

Do you consider what Copeland, Capps, and Hagin teaches as commentary?

 

[El Hombre viejo]

Do you consider what Copeland, Capps, and Hagin teaches as commentary?

Why are we taking about Copeland Capps and Hagin? I were talkin' preachers in general.

I've run across many 'deadly' preachers in my day as well as many good ones. Preachers of all denominations.

See? You're asking loaded questions for some reason.. I wonder why?

 

[jiggyfly]

Why are we taking about Copeland Capps and Hagin? I were talkin' preachers in general.

I've run across many 'deadly' preachers in my day as well as many good ones. Preachers of all denominations.

See? You're asking loaded questions for some reason.. I wonder why?

Why are you avoiding the question? You say that commentaries are, let's see how did you put it? Ahhh yes, here it is.

Commentaries are nothing more than men's opinions. They may look good and sound good but they can lead you into total confusion. If you want to learn Gods Word stay away from commentaries and look to the Holy Spirit. That's why he is dwelling in us, in part, to be our teacher, and mentor. Nowhere in Gods Word does He promise to send us commentaries to be our teachers.

In all fairness, wouldn't Copeland's, Capps', and Hagin's teachings and books (commentaries) be included in your statement above?:wink: