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Before the Foundation of the world.
I was meditating yesterday about how the Lord has all ways provided all of my needs according to his divine power that lives and dwells within me.(2 Peter 1:3) It is interesting to note that “salvation” is a gift given by God to man before the world was created, and even before the first man was ever formed!!!
2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 WHO HATH SAVED US, AND CALLED US WITH AN HOLY CALLING, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, WHICH WAS GIVEN US IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN,
What was given to us before the world began? Salvation, a Holy calling to that salvation, a purpose, and grace by which we were saved!!
Man was saved even before Jesus finished all of his Fathers work on earth in this time-based world. In God's mind, once he determines something to happen, it is good as done even before it is done on this earth. Only in an eternal realm where time does not exist could such a thing have been completed. No wonder, as Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world, even before he was slain for our benefit on this time-based earth.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
The only people who will worship the beast, are those whose names are NOT written in the Lambs Book of life!!
How could a person name be written in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world, unless the Lamb of God had already been slain to acquire that salvation? There are a lot more people on this earth that will by faith receive salvation, and their names are already written in the Lambs book of life before they found out God had saved them!!! This is not unusual thinking at all. It is normal for the spiritually minded child of God.
How in the world can anyone believe they have already received something when they pray when they can NOT see it now? No one can believe they already have something unless someone told them (God) that they do, because faith (believing) comes from hearing the Word of God!!
Since when, does “faith” have anything to do with what our physical mind thinks or what it sees, and feels? It has nothing to do with our fleshly senses or carnal unrenewed mind, but according to what God has already given us from the beginning revealed to us through his Word. This is how Jesus destroyed death by bringing LIFE, AND IMORTALITY TO LIGHT THROUGH THE GOSPEL!!!
2Ti 1:9 WHO HATH SAVED US, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, WHICH WAS GIVEN US IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN,
2Ti 1:10 BUT IS NOW MADE MANIFEST BY THE APPEARING OF OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST, WHO HATH ABOLISHED DEATH, AND HATH BROUGHT LIFE AND IMMORTALITY TO LIGHT THROUGH THE GOSPEL:
I was saved even before I was born!!! But, my salvation did not do me any good
until I found out about it through the Gospel to what My God had done for me through his Son Jesus Christ.
In the very beginning inside the Word (Jesus Christ) there was life, and that life was the "LIGHT OF MEN"
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 IN HIM WAS LIFE; AND THE LIFE WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN.
Mans need for eternal life was in the Word in the beginning as the "light of men"
Men living in the Word in the beginning!!! Jesus simply brought to man the light of life already given to man in the beginning through the Gospel!!!
I have always wondered WHEN did God the Father give to Jesus all those whom Jesus said would come to him, and that he would lose none of them! (John 6:37)(John 6:39)
Jesus laid down his own life to bring to me this life-giving information, which gives immortality from the light of the Gospel!!! The Gospel is the "good news". Information (revelation) is absolutely critical to possessing life. Nobody can experience this life until they hear the good news that causes one to believe through the Word of God. How can anyone believe in what they don't know? How can anyone receive anything from the Lord without faith, which comes from knowing what they know through the Word of God?
Rom 8:29 FOR WHOM HE DID FOREKNOW, HE ALSO DID PREDESTINATE TO BE CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover WHOM HE DID PREDESTINATE, THEM HE ALSO CALLED: AND WHOM HE CALLED, THEM HE ALSO JUSTIFIED: AND WHOM HE JUSTIFIED, THEM HE ALSO GLORIFIED.
Those to whom the Lord “saved”, before the world began, he also called from the foundation of the world before it began. God also “justified” those whom he saved from the beginning, and those same people that he justified he has “glorified”!!! This certainly makes no logical sense at all!!! It is not suppose to, because it is not logical, it is spiritual!!
This is very very easy to understand in the heart of man that has been renewed with the Word of God, by the Holy Spirit. The Lord God always "calls" the "end" from the "beginning" Which means what the Lord God finished (called) in the beginning, is exactly what the "end" will be. The beginning and the end are the same. The only difference is if you have a beginning, and if you have an end, what would you call all the space between the two?
Time is what separates a beginning from the end. If we take away the time element, then the beginning and the end merge together into one exactly, because they are both the same thing. As a born again Spirit filled Christian we live in two different worlds at the same time. We have been translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son where time does not exist. We also live in a "time based" world were our physical bodies are subject to time and space. The physical world is progressing towards an end that will be exactly as God finished from the beginning.
How the Lord has provided all of my need(s), including salvation is according to his "foreknowledge" that he knew before I was ever born. The Lord knew the exact minute I would hear the Gospel of my salvation, and then believe it. He knew the exact minute I would have faith in him to provide me a home, a family, food, a car, clothing, spiritual insight into his Word, and he began to move upon the hearts of men, and women so these things would be given to me, before I was born on planet earth!!!
These things were ready to be revealed and given to me before I believed for them because the Lord knew I would believe him for them, and he knew this before the world began!! You talk about perfect timing. Where did I get all this information from to have faith for all these things?
2Pe 1:3 According as HIS DIVINE POWER HATH GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO LIFE AND GODLINESS, THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM THAT HATH CALLED US TO GLORY AND VIRTUE:
If I did not have the "knowledge of him" about these things, how could I ever know I had them or ever get them to be manifested in this world?
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I was meditating yesterday about how the Lord has all ways provided all of my needs according to his divine power that lives and dwells within me.(2 Peter 1:3) It is interesting to note that “salvation” is a gift given by God to man before the world was created, and even before the first man was ever formed!!!
2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 WHO HATH SAVED US, AND CALLED US WITH AN HOLY CALLING, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, WHICH WAS GIVEN US IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN,
What was given to us before the world began? Salvation, a Holy calling to that salvation, a purpose, and grace by which we were saved!!
Man was saved even before Jesus finished all of his Fathers work on earth in this time-based world. In God's mind, once he determines something to happen, it is good as done even before it is done on this earth. Only in an eternal realm where time does not exist could such a thing have been completed. No wonder, as Jesus was slain from the foundation of the world, even before he was slain for our benefit on this time-based earth.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
The only people who will worship the beast, are those whose names are NOT written in the Lambs Book of life!!
How could a person name be written in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world, unless the Lamb of God had already been slain to acquire that salvation? There are a lot more people on this earth that will by faith receive salvation, and their names are already written in the Lambs book of life before they found out God had saved them!!! This is not unusual thinking at all. It is normal for the spiritually minded child of God.
How in the world can anyone believe they have already received something when they pray when they can NOT see it now? No one can believe they already have something unless someone told them (God) that they do, because faith (believing) comes from hearing the Word of God!!
Since when, does “faith” have anything to do with what our physical mind thinks or what it sees, and feels? It has nothing to do with our fleshly senses or carnal unrenewed mind, but according to what God has already given us from the beginning revealed to us through his Word. This is how Jesus destroyed death by bringing LIFE, AND IMORTALITY TO LIGHT THROUGH THE GOSPEL!!!
2Ti 1:9 WHO HATH SAVED US, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, WHICH WAS GIVEN US IN CHRIST JESUS BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN,
2Ti 1:10 BUT IS NOW MADE MANIFEST BY THE APPEARING OF OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST, WHO HATH ABOLISHED DEATH, AND HATH BROUGHT LIFE AND IMMORTALITY TO LIGHT THROUGH THE GOSPEL:
I was saved even before I was born!!! But, my salvation did not do me any good
until I found out about it through the Gospel to what My God had done for me through his Son Jesus Christ.
In the very beginning inside the Word (Jesus Christ) there was life, and that life was the "LIGHT OF MEN"
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 IN HIM WAS LIFE; AND THE LIFE WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN.
Mans need for eternal life was in the Word in the beginning as the "light of men"
Men living in the Word in the beginning!!! Jesus simply brought to man the light of life already given to man in the beginning through the Gospel!!!
I have always wondered WHEN did God the Father give to Jesus all those whom Jesus said would come to him, and that he would lose none of them! (John 6:37)(John 6:39)
Jesus laid down his own life to bring to me this life-giving information, which gives immortality from the light of the Gospel!!! The Gospel is the "good news". Information (revelation) is absolutely critical to possessing life. Nobody can experience this life until they hear the good news that causes one to believe through the Word of God. How can anyone believe in what they don't know? How can anyone receive anything from the Lord without faith, which comes from knowing what they know through the Word of God?
Rom 8:29 FOR WHOM HE DID FOREKNOW, HE ALSO DID PREDESTINATE TO BE CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover WHOM HE DID PREDESTINATE, THEM HE ALSO CALLED: AND WHOM HE CALLED, THEM HE ALSO JUSTIFIED: AND WHOM HE JUSTIFIED, THEM HE ALSO GLORIFIED.
Those to whom the Lord “saved”, before the world began, he also called from the foundation of the world before it began. God also “justified” those whom he saved from the beginning, and those same people that he justified he has “glorified”!!! This certainly makes no logical sense at all!!! It is not suppose to, because it is not logical, it is spiritual!!
This is very very easy to understand in the heart of man that has been renewed with the Word of God, by the Holy Spirit. The Lord God always "calls" the "end" from the "beginning" Which means what the Lord God finished (called) in the beginning, is exactly what the "end" will be. The beginning and the end are the same. The only difference is if you have a beginning, and if you have an end, what would you call all the space between the two?
Time is what separates a beginning from the end. If we take away the time element, then the beginning and the end merge together into one exactly, because they are both the same thing. As a born again Spirit filled Christian we live in two different worlds at the same time. We have been translated into the Kingdom of God's dear Son where time does not exist. We also live in a "time based" world were our physical bodies are subject to time and space. The physical world is progressing towards an end that will be exactly as God finished from the beginning.
How the Lord has provided all of my need(s), including salvation is according to his "foreknowledge" that he knew before I was ever born. The Lord knew the exact minute I would hear the Gospel of my salvation, and then believe it. He knew the exact minute I would have faith in him to provide me a home, a family, food, a car, clothing, spiritual insight into his Word, and he began to move upon the hearts of men, and women so these things would be given to me, before I was born on planet earth!!!
These things were ready to be revealed and given to me before I believed for them because the Lord knew I would believe him for them, and he knew this before the world began!! You talk about perfect timing. Where did I get all this information from to have faith for all these things?
2Pe 1:3 According as HIS DIVINE POWER HATH GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN UNTO LIFE AND GODLINESS, THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM THAT HATH CALLED US TO GLORY AND VIRTUE:
If I did not have the "knowledge of him" about these things, how could I ever know I had them or ever get them to be manifested in this world?
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