Baptism. Do I need to be baptized again.

[Sue D.]

He spoke, internally, the word Jeremiah and it was 3:33 A.M. it was a few minutes after that the scolding, to the external ear, took place as I didn't want to get up and read it til the morning.

As another example: This one took place very early in the walk ,if you will, I had been studying the Rapture issue and wasn't really getting anywhere and one night I got woke up at 2:40 and heard the word Matthew, well there is no 2:40 in Matthew so I looked at the entire 24th chapter and sure enough verses 29-31 answer the question.
As vs 29 Starts off with "Immediately after the tribulation of those days........" 31- "they shall gather together his elect...." I was with the pre tirbbers until that night, and was
sick for about a week as I then knew that if this thing were to happen in my life time it just might require my own sacrifice as a sheep led to the slaughter. But that only seemed to drive home a need for more understanding and more faith. Thus studying the timelines for where we are now and asking for more faith and understanding. Revelation seals number 5 and 6. Compare to Matthew 24:29-31.
There have been many martyrs of the Lords throughout time but to think you just may have been marked out to become one, initially is a scary thought.
But well worth the price.



Even Balaams donkey was used to speak to Balaam. Numbers 22:28-31. So yes your right he can do as he pleases through whomever he chooses to deliver the message.

That passage could Also be referring to the elect being taken out of the present time of tribulation and there have been Many, Many times of tribulation in this world. -- sounds like you're basing a Lot on what is talked about in Rev. 6 :vs 9 - 12.
is talking about martyrs // under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. and they were asking how much longer until everything was complete. and then the 6th seal starts with a earthquake.

Okay the Matthew 24 passage also comments about 'after the tribulation of those days'. And, yes, there has been lots of tribulation in the past and we are living through difficult times Now. But there have been none of those signs in the heavens yet.

 

[Samson2020]

That passage could Also be referring to the elect being taken out of the present time of tribulation and there have been Many, Many times of tribulation in this world. -- sounds like you're basing a Lot on what is talked about in Rev. 6 :vs 9 - 12.
is talking about martyrs // under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. and they were asking how much longer until everything was complete. and then the 6th seal starts with a earthquake.

Okay the Matthew 24 passage also comments about 'after the tribulation of those days'. And, yes, there has been lots of tribulation in the past and we are living through difficult times Now. But there have been none of those signs in the heavens yet.

The whole Rapture issue is addressed by another post in the thread "Rapture in this generation.........." Using only scripture.

 

[Josephine2006]

Josephine 2006 -- Another something to think about. Baptism by immersion is an outward testimony to others as to the inner decision / belief that has already been made in your heart. With the heart a person believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that His death, burial and bodily resurrection / the blood He shed on the cross is all that's needed to take care of your sins / everyone's sins. Confession is made unto your inner belief thanking God for His gift of your salvation. The Holy Spirit will have immediately come to indwell the person / you. And That is what is being shown to other people in baptism by immersion. And that baptism can be done in a church's baptistry or where ever the pastor would have that body of believers get together. And that is something you'd need to talk with your pastor about. It's a very important decision in your life. Your personal salvation being the most important decision.

Thank you for that information Sue.

 

[Josephine2006]

The whole Rapture issue is addressed by another post in the thread "Rapture in this generation.........." Using only scripture.

Thank you Samson, I will have a look at that.

 

[Josephine2006]

He spoke, internally, the word Jeremiah and it was 3:33 A.M. it was a few minutes after that the scolding, to the external ear, took place as I didn't want to get up and read it til the morning.

As another example: This one took place very early in the walk ,if you will, I had been studying the Rapture issue and wasn't really getting anywhere and one night I got woke up at 2:40 and heard the word Matthew, well there is no 2:40 in Matthew so I looked at the entire 24th chapter and sure enough verses 29-31 answer the question.
As vs 29 Starts off with "Immediately after the tribulation of those days........" 31- "they shall gather together his elect...." I was with the pre tirbbers until that night, and was
sick for about a week as I then knew that if this thing were to happen in my life time it just might require my own sacrifice as a sheep led to the slaughter. But that only seemed to drive home a need for more understanding and more faith. Thus studying the timelines for where we are now and asking for more faith and understanding. Revelation seals number 5 and 6. Compare to Matthew 24:29-31.
There have been many martyrs of the Lords throughout time but to think you just may have been marked out to become one, initially is a scary thought.
But well worth the price.



Even Balaams donkey was used to speak to Balaam. Numbers 22:28-31. So yes your right he can do as he pleases through whomever he chooses to deliver the message.

Thank you Balaams for that explanation. It's much clearer now.

 

[Josephine2006]

Baptism does not save you/? You must first repent of all your sins in Jesus's Holy Name and let the Lord Jesus become Lord of your life and follow him. Then as a step of obedience get baptized. Being Christened as a child is meaningless! Only adult baptism when you know that you are committing your life to God forever is a step of obedience that one must do. If you have repented given over your life to Jesus, then yes you must be baptized. God ignores baby baptism because a small child has not reached the age of understanding. Thus saying "must I be baptized again" is meaningless because you were never baptised in the first place.

Thank you Allan,
In that case it's the second thing on my list to do, after I have found a church to attend. Which I'm hoping won't be too long from now.

 

[Born Again 2004]

Here is another perspective and an opinion: 2 Corinthians 12:9 ; Ephesians 2:8-9. Water baptism , in itself, does not save. Since becoming a Christian. I have heard from many "baptism required" proponents saying, if it doesn't work the first time, just keep doing it until it does. GOD doesn't work that way, when He says something, He means it and you don't have to keep going back to Him. He said you are saved by Grace and He said it is a gift and ,we all know, if it is a gift, it is free. And he says nothing about water. He is God and perfect, He doesn't have to do something over and over again, you either accept the gift or you don't....inside of water or not!

 

[B-A-C]

2Kings 5:10; Elisha sent a messenger to him, saying, "Go and wash in the Jordan seven times, and your flesh will be restored to you and you will be clean."
2Kings 5:11; But Naaman was furious and went away and said, "Behold, I thought, 'He will surely come out to me and stand and call on the name of the LORD his God, and wave his hand over the place and cure the leper.'
2Kings 5:12; "Are not Abanah and Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters of Israel? Could I not wash in them and be clean?" So he turned and went away in a rage.
2Kings 5:13; Then his servants came near and spoke to him and said, "My father, had the prophet told you to do some great thing, would you not have done it? How much more then, when he says to you, 'Wash, and be clean'?"
2Kings 5:14; So he went down and dipped himself seven times in the Jordan, according to the word of the man of God; and his flesh was restored like the flesh of a little child and he was clean.

The purpose of posting isn't to say you have to wash in Jordan seven times, I agree once is enough.
But I do post this here because, why don't we just do what God tells us to do, instead of finding excuses not to do it?

Mark 16:16; "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

Luke 7:30; But the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's purpose for themselves, not having been baptized by John.

Acts 2:38; Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 22:16; 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.'

1Pet 3:21; Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

 

[Born Again 2004]

I know, these are compelling scriptures but this is the one I believe that is most compelling and in line with the New Covenant: Ephesian 2:8-9...You are saved by Grace and not by water and works of men!

 

[Trevor]

Hi everyone,
So I was Christened when I was 8 years old by my request.
I have read that you should be aware of the commitment you are making to God, for the christening it to be valid.
I knew that it was to do with the church and God but no more than that. It was for me more about having a party afterwards! lol
So do I need to be baptized again?
Thank you guys.

Hi Josephine, when you were christened, that was a decision of loving parents. You need to make your own decision, to be submerged in water and come up leaving Satan's world behind? Bless you.

 

[Josephine2006]

Hi Josephine, when you were christened, that was a decision of loving parents. You need to make your own decision, to be submerged in water and come up leaving Satan's world behind? Bless you.

Than you Trevor,
I'll bear that in mind. I still haven't made a decision on whether to be baptized as I have many different views to consider.
I appreciate the time you took out to reply to me.
Blessings brother.

 

[Sue D.]

Baptism by immersion is the only Biblical baptism which is done to show outwardly that which has already taken place Inwardly. The belief in your heart. Your new life in Christ begins as soon as you accepting Him as your personal Lord and Savior.

 

[Br. Bear]

I know, these are compelling scriptures but this is the one I believe that is most compelling and in line with the New Covenant: Ephesian 2:8-9...You are saved by Grace and not by water and works of men!

There is no reference to water in those two verses, none whatsoever.

Baptism by immersion is the only Biblical baptism which is done to show outwardly that which has already taken place Inwardly. The belief in your heart. Your new life in Christ begins as soon as you accepting Him as your personal Lord and Savior.

Baptism by immersion is the only Biblical baptism which is done to show outwardly that which has already taken place Inwardly.
does that make sense? Baptism by immersion is the only Biblical baptism... ?

which is done to show outwardly that which has already taken place Inwardly. Is there some Scriptural backing for this please? If so, please provide it so the reader can see that it is Scriptural and correct.

A child's life, which happens also to be new, starts at conception, does it not? However, a child is meant to pass through and beyond the waters to be born, even though alive before then.

A good way to look at Baptism or not, is to consider Jesus as the One to follow.
If it was good enough for Jesus, then it is good enough for me. (which should not be said or thought with some sort of equality to the Lord, but rather as one who wants to follow Him.)
Why mess around with every conceivable idea to avoid Baptism when the Bible (the Book about God and Jesus Christ) makes it clear enough that one should be Baptised?
Perhaps we get a bit too sure of ourselves and say, "I don't need to get baptised if i don't think it is necessary" Any new believer is not at all equipped enough in the Word, not yet acquainted with Meat but surely, as new born babes, needing and desiring Milk, To get all smart about if you have to get baptised, or to think you know enough about Scripture to decide for yourself would be folly. Anyone who tries to convince a new babe with meat is certainly not a good guardian of the babe nor the Word.

The problem should not be whether to get baptised or not but rather, who is going to 'do' the baptising? I don't think we are meant to baptize ourselves.

If you have an unction to get baptised, do it. It is not something you will lose from but if you start out learning to go your own way and calling the shots, you will find that you do have lots to lose.

If it was good enough for Jesus it is good enough for you [and, yes, it was good enough for Jesus]

 

[Josephine2006]

Josephine 2006 -- Another something to think about. Baptism by immersion is an outward testimony to others as to the inner decision / belief that has already been made in your heart. With the heart a person believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that His death, burial and bodily resurrection / the blood He shed on the cross is all that's needed to take care of your sins / everyone's sins. Confession is made unto your inner belief thanking God for His gift of your salvation. The Holy Spirit will have immediately come to indwell the person / you. And That is what is being shown to other people in baptism by immersion. And that baptism can be done in a church's baptistry or where ever the pastor would have that body of believers get together. And that is something you'd need to talk with your pastor about. It's a very important decision in your life. Your personal salvation being the most important decision.

Thank you Sue D,
I noticed that I hadn't replied to your message so sorry for the late reply.
I have received the Holy Spirit and have given my life wholeheartedly to Christ. So far I haven't felt the need to be Baptized but that's on the back burner with this Covid-19 situation so that may well change.
I really appreciate your point of view on this subject and once again thank you for your time.
Blessings sister