I'll try 2 make this short: I'm an adult christian believer w' both asperger's & autism that is unable 2 recognize god's voice, presence, answers, signs or even warning signs in general. I can only understand the literal parts of the bible & not even all of that, as symbolism, codes, numbers, imagary, names, clues, etc , are all 2 difficult 4 me. Also, even thou I do know right from wrong, I don't always know when I'm sinning as everything has 2 b written down or listed in full detail - only then am I able 2 know. I grew up in a house w' parents who not only don't believe in god, but wouldn't even let me go 2 church w' friends until I was @ lst 13 (& even then they were unwilling) even thou I knew there was a higher power @ 5 or 6. Also, they were/r extremely controlling & I was never able 2 make my own choices or even 2 speak 4 myself. I also don't have the ability/foresight 2 look into/search future events cuz I can only take things 2 days @ a time (@most), or my sensory system becomes overwhelmed & it can take @ lst 4 days (@ most) 2 fully recover. I'm also unable 2 read body language, facial expressions or tell when people r lying. Anyway, as a result, I unknowingly/innocently/was tricked into taking the mob (mark of beast) thru the rt pcr dna test which uses the process of transhumanism, which literally changes u into a chimera, cyborg, artificial intelligence & changes ur dna as well. initially, the test carries the mark in full, but it takes 3 shots 2 equal the full mark. Initially, the first shot turns u into a chmera, the 2nd turns u into a cyborg & the final one (the booster) will turn u into artificial intelligence, or ai...it plus it has all the ingrediants of the mark: buy/sell, name of man/# of man/ image of beast...initially, u'r the beast & the temple is inside u, so that's how u worship the beast...i know i said this is from the test, but the vax r the mark 2 as they do the same thing, except the test does every thing @ once & yes, the test can vaccinate u & it does implant chips in u as well...it is also a gene experiment - a depopulation tool...the vax used in the pcr test is not the same as the typical vax since i had the test done in 2019 & the vaxs weren't out, but they r a form of the vax (or should i say medicine since the kits were purposly labeled as such)...i never was gonna get the test or vax, but only cuz i didn't c y a hlthy person should b tested just 2 c if u had it, w'out having it (covid) & going in 2 b tested...initially, i had 2 go 2 the er 4 what turned out 2 b an inner bleed (gastritis) in which i lost 3 units of blood in 2 hrs after admission (plus 1 more the next day)...the test was a requirement 4 admission & i felt no warning signs or anything...anyway, i finally looked up 2 get info abt the test once i was discharged as a result of what i felt & that's when i learned what it was...i know u may not believe these things 2 b the mark so if that's the case, plz answer hypothetically, otherwise do so normally...now, this is my question -- can i still b saved since this was a result of my aspergers & that it was not directly a choice i made, but 1 made 4 me???this shouldn't have happened as i was a true believer (& still am) & i never turned my back on god, or rejected him - i've never blamed him 4 this as well...being an aspie, not only am i more sensitive 2 things (like i felt the chips) & am closer 2 the spirit world (i've seen my dead grandfather, spirit forms/figures - both good & bad & even felt a human flesh & even an angel's touch)...however, i still can't recognize god or understand the bible & i'm scared that cuz i took the mark (in the ways aforementioned), i'm scared i'm going 2 go 2 hell cuz of my autism (developmental disorder)...so, is there a chance i can still b saved cuz of my disabilitiies???i mean y would god allow me, or others w' similiar symptoms/disabilities 2 b deceived esp since i never was able 2 recognize god, his voice - thru answers or prayers, warning signs, etc...i never did c a problem, or even sin bad enuff 2 even have been worshipping satan, let alone get the mark...it was taken unknowingly, w'out informed consent, unwittingly & forcefully, so y should i lose my salvation 4 the way this has happened -- it was a reult of my limitations of my autism, which is y i say someone chose 4 me - y do i have 2 pay 4 someone else's sins...i'd gladly accept the shorter life span ( abt 5 yrs left), as long as i can keep my salvation...b'sides, who knew that a test could inject u, so no, i did not willingly choose 2 accept the mob...plus, i have been repenting daily & the bible says u wouldn't...b'sides, the bible has been altered as all the versions don't read or mean the same thing...there r passages left out of some versions & they all pretty much contridict each other...the 1 thing they all do agree on is that no matter how the mark is taken, force or causeth, that u would know it when y c it (a lie as it's given thru deception), u will choose 2 take it (many will) & that u will do it willingly (not in my case - i only had the test done cuz it was required by the hospital 4 admittance, but i did not choose the mark & i never would have)...that's also y there's so much guesswork on what the mark is- that's what satans plan was/is...
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i can include more info abt the test ltr - all i will say 4 now is that it was not a cotton tip swab test as shown & there were 2 parts used 2 test & there r no true images -- they've been censored or deleted...iknow that u can't get a shot in the forehead, but the so called swab goes 2 the base/bridge of ur brain & the micro -chips go up thru it 2 ur forehead...also, who would expect a test 2 inject u???
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Hello @blueyed1
The vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast.
Peace to you and blessings
Hekuran
The vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast.
- It is not a mark
- It is not a number (666 or 616) that can be calculated
- Nobody is forced to worship anyone or anything to receive a vaccine.
Peace to you and blessings
Hekuran
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It is not currently the mark of the beast, but... it may be conditioning you to eventually take the mark of the beast or else, but it is by no means the mark of the beast.
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What bugs me about hearing this, is no one is conditioning me to worship the antichrist. No way no how. It is a bit different to ask me to take a vaccine that has pretty good results when fear is rampant right now, then to force me to take a mark of worship to someone other then God. Confusion is not of God. My mind cleared up when I took it... Fear went away. I wasn't afraid of the covid or vaccine. I was more afraid of the division and distraction of all this. People are turning against each other and especially Christians over a shot. People can hate me for loving God, but I sure want it to be over the right debate. To me, this isn't it. And like the fear of our friend here, this is why. People need to be told about God and how to live for God for the most part, not the meat of end times. It could or could not have something to do with it. But the obsession over it I see everywhere, it just feels like distraction.
@blueyed1 - Romans 8:38-39
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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I 100% agree with this. Conditioning is something so subtle that those, it is being done to have no idea, just like the famous frog in boiling water turn the heat up little by little and the frog doe not even know its being cooked. We now have places in the world that you may not buy or sell unless you have the vaccine,, we now have gonverments telling us what to put into our body, all in the eyes of safety but giving up liberty in the mean time. The bible warns us over and over again about deception in the end times. And Jesus tells us to looks for the signs of the age we are in.
The stage is being set for the anti christ to come in and control everything. IMO
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Bugs are a part of God's world. So be bugged all you wish. What I said has little to do with covid, little to do with vaccines, little to do with deception rampant in the echelons of worldly power. Its about conditioning. How do the sheep go from pasture to pasture? The shepards condition them, driving them from one to the next, so that eventually they do it with little resistance. Be wary I say, who you let shepard you. Do not let the world shepard you, for you belong to the Lord, and He bought you for a great price. You are not to be of this world and follow its desires for you.
ok, since we r all of different opinions as 2 whether this is the mark, or if there r others, let me rephrase my ? -- do u think a person w' autisim, asperger's (or asd if u prefer), or r mentally challenged or mentally ill, or has a similar condition (disabilty) that prevents them from knowing abt or understanding god or the scriptures (as i can only understand the literal parts & not even all of it), or if they r unable 2 know from rite or wrong, or like me, only if things r specifically listed/written down, explained/ defined in the bible, that r unable 2 know if they take the mark, if they can b saved...i also found some info if u look up certain words in strong's -- it will say the greek & hebrew meanings, & then maybe u'll c partly y i'm concerned:
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Last night I have no idea why I had several flies around my room, but I could not sleep until I went after them with all their buzzing. True story.
You said "it" is conditioning, referring to the vaccine. What I am saying is you cannot be conditioned to follow the antichrist. A true believer would never receive the mark of the beast. Mark of the Beast will be an intentional choice. People will know 100% what they are doing. I honestly believe the vaccine is just personal conviction. Someone had posted an article on here that was extremely helpful. It dealt with what God might tell Christians concerning covid and the vaccine today. I'll have to go back and find the link. It helped me a lot.
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Here it is, @kylemcnutt thank you. This had really helped me. :
What Jesus Might Say to His Followers Regarding Covid-19 Vaccination - Kyle McNutt
I am not at all interested in trying to convince you of the "necessity" of taking either position [on vaccines]. My guess is that you have already had plenty of conversations along those lines. This is especially true if you have spent five minutes on social media. Instead, as someone who is a...
www.kylemcnutt.com
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Do "true believers" make an intentional choice to sin sometimes? Perhaps receiving the mark (or not) is what will determine if you are a true believer or not.
well, i am a true believer, but cuz of my limitations described earlier, i still may have unknowingly taken it...everything i said in my last post is true (u can read back if u need 2), so i think that, as mentioned in my last post, there r those w' conditions that prevent one from not only knowing, but being unable 2 understand the truth...w' what u just said & i don't mean 2 sound critical or anything, but it sounds like u'r saying that people like me r going 2 hell just cuz we r'nt able 2 understand the truth, even if we r true believers, is that correct???i'm not trying 2 start anything, i'm just trying 2 understand what ur saying...
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Yeh this is what I think. Intentionally worshipping the antichrist to eat is a pretty clear indication.... I just don't believe a true believer can be conditioned to do that. It would go against everything inside of me.
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@blueyed1 I assure you that you have not taken the mark of the beast. Here is what you have to just remember, okay? If someone says clearly that they are God and you have to take this mark to show that, that is the mark of the beast. That would be blasphemy and the mark of an unbeliever. Does that make sense?
I wouldn't worry about receiving the mark. Just learn God's Word and ask any questions that come to your mind. We do not have to worry about Hell, because Brad is right. We were bought with a great price. Fear is distraction and is pit by the father of lies.
I wouldn't worry about receiving the mark. Just learn God's Word and ask any questions that come to your mind. We do not have to worry about Hell, because Brad is right. We were bought with a great price. Fear is distraction and is pit by the father of lies.
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I don't think the vaccine is the mark. But as far as believers being deceived.
When you read the King James version below, many take this to mean the "elect" can't or won't
be deceived. This is mostly because of the way certain wordings have changed in English over the 500 years.
But all of the other translations seem to say, some of the elect "can" (and will) be deceived.
Matthew 24:24
(ASV) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
(BBE) For there will come up false Christs, and false prophets, who will do great signs and wonders; so that if possible even the saints might be tricked.
(ESV) For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
(ESV+) For R7false christs and R8false prophets will arise and R9perform great signs and wonders, R8so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
(GNB) For false Messiahs and false prophets will appear; they will perform great miracles and wonders in order to deceive even God's chosen people, if possible.
(GW) False messiahs and false prophets will appear. They will work spectacular, miraculous signs and do wonderful things to deceive, if possible, even those whom God has chosen.
(ISV) because false messiahs and false prophets will appear and display great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
(KJV) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(MKJV) For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders; so much so that, if it were possible, they would deceive even the elect.
(NAS77) "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
(NAS95) "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
(NIrV) False Christs and false prophets will appear. They will do great signs and miracles. They will try to fool God's chosen people if possible.
(NIV) For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
(NKJV) For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
(NLT) For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones.
(TPT) For there will be imposters falsely claiming to be God’s ‘Anointed One,’ and false prophets will arise to perform miracle signs to lead astray, if possible, those God has chosen to be his.
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Maybe, but even the demons are true believers.
James 2:19; You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.
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But a demon would happily receive the mark of the beast also. I don't see how a genuine believer (meaning a true saved believer) could ever be tricked into receiving the mark. I think that "if possible" is key here. It is that intentional action of choosing to follow God rather then the antichrist that will show who is a true repentant believer.
Luke 19:8-9
" But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.”
Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”
