and the word after means after!

[Romans 8.28]

the second resurrection that you speek of is after the thousand years with christ and thay get the old white throne judgment of god and that is the end for them.
ok lets get this stright one thing at a time jesus was the first the second is the dead in christ . and then we who are alive and remain! then the last that are after the thousand years with christ. and thay are not in the book of life the second resurrection is two groops only a few seconds apart.

I thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,
that we {which are alive and remain} unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are
{asleep}.definition absent from the body present with the loard.
:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
and with the {{trump of God}} and the dead in Christ shall rise {first}:
:17 Then we which are {{alive and remain}} shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. see there is two groops

I agree . . . . . . But wait! That makes up the first catching up or rapture of those seen with Christ when He takes His own throne in Revelation 4:2, and now we have to consider those of the great multitude caught up out of great tribulation in Revelation 7:13. And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

Notice that it is one of the elders asking John this question. The elder was already there.

 

[David777]

Hello all.

Ephesians 2

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,

5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,

9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

We are already seated in Heaven with Christ.

Does the rapture occur before, mid, after ???

We are already seated in Heaven with Christ.

When we view Heaven in Revelations we must remember
that we are not viewing things from the human temporal
perspective. We are seeing the spiritual kingdom, seen through
the Spirit.

You are already seated with Christ!!!

We need to keep our gaze upon Jesus and the kingdom of heaven.

 

[kevinlb63]

your all mixed up i will give you the scripture hold on !

lets forget the resurrection of christ ok !

it says blessed is he that take part in the first resurrection!
for the second resurrection has now power. and here is the scripture for that.
rev: 20:6-
<SUP>6</SUP>Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the {first resurrection:} on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
these are the dead that are resurrected for gods! great white throne judgment! iwill
back that up with scripture!

<SUP>11</SUP>And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
<SUP>13</SUP>And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

<SUP id=en-KJV-31053 class=versenum>14</SUP>And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. <SUP id=en-KJV-31054 class=versenum>15</SUP>And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. thay ar only one resurrection that we talk about when it cames to the end when jesus come for his bride. the only other one is the one below!
<SUP>13</SUP>And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
<SUP id=en-KJV-31053 class=versenum>14</SUP>And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

[kevinlb63]

remember this happens after the thousand year reign with christ that this takes place!
revelation 20:11-14
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. thay are only one resurrection that we talk about when it cames to the end !when jesus come for his bride. the only other one is the one below!
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

[Romans 8.28]

Ephesians - The Exaltation of the Sons of God
A.S. Copley

THE DIVINE PROVISION

Chapter Two

"And you hath He quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others" - 2:1-3

Observe here, as in the preceding chapter, that both Jews and Gentiles are brought on the scene. The apostle begins by saying, "And you" (Gentiles); and in verse three, "also we" (Jews). God's provision for the Church, the Body of Christ - made up of Jews and Gentiles - is herein outlined as including seven pertinent facts: our death with Christ; made alive with Christ in His grave; raised from the tomb with Him; seated in the heavenlies with Him; created in Christ for good works; made nigh to God in Christ; and Jews and Gentiles made one in Him. These seven items are not our experiences. They are acts accomplished in Christ for us and with us, independent of our will; and we would never know them, if He had not revealed them to us by His Word. These facts are true of every believer on Jesus Christ, whether he knows them or believes them or not. But when we do see them and believe them to be portions of God's great grace plan, then we are encouraged and enabled to appropriate Christ in all His fullness. Thus, we are brought to enjoy the victory, power, and wealth of such unspeakable provision. I trust the reader understands this. Let me illustrate: A certain girl fell heir to two hundred acres of land. She was told about it when quite young. When she was twelve, she pointed out the plat to me with childish delight; but I saw that she did not understand how wealthy she was. Now that tract was no more hers then, than when she was born; and it was no less hers than fifteen years later. But, at the age of twenty-seven, she began to appreciate and enjoy her possessions. How did she come to that final enjoyment? By believing steadfastly that the land was hers, by exploring and appropriating it, and by planting it with seed for a harvest.