A Rabbi Like No Other

[David Koberstein]

yes, same calling of the father the new promised name Chrsitn


It was the Lord calling his wife Christian literally (residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his bride the church named her after the eternal cities founder and husband Christ

Christian a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations previously called her Isarel as in born again Israel not all isreal is born agin some remined as Jabob the deceiver divorced Israel .

Christ in us fulfilling the promise to rename in Isiah 62 . Some say the new name is not Chrsitn .If not then what is the name of the bride of all the nations?

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Yeshua was an observant Jew
Shalom

 

[Twistie]

yes, same calling of the father the new promised name Chrsitn


It was the Lord calling his wife Christian literally (residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his bride the church named her after the eternal cities founder and husband Christ

Christian a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations previously called her Isarel as in born again Israel not all isreal is born agin some remined as Jabob the deceiver divorced Israel .

Christ in us fulfilling the promise to rename in Isiah 62 . Some say the new name is not Chrsitn .If not then what is the name of the bride of all the nations?

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Oh so you believe God changes is this part of a new thing in Christianity?
Ive been in the Word from beginning to end over n over please tell me where it is written that The Word came to change the Fathers nation from a nation of Priest to a nation of Christians... Thanks!

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[Garee]

Yeshua was an observant Jew
Shalom

Observant of what?

Observant Jew? Outwardly of spiritually?

Romans 2:27-29; For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:;But he is a (born again ) Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;(death) whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[Garee]

Oh so you believe God changes is this part of a new thing in Christianity?
Ive been in the Word from beginning to end over n over please tell me where it is written that The Word came to change the Fathers nation from a nation of Priest to a nation of Christians... Thanks!

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God changes? new thing?

It has always been a nation of priests. In the Old Testament God used the tribe of Levi, dying mankind to represent the kingdom of priests and the New Testament the promise in Psalms.

Jesus the son of man from the tribe of Judah. after the new order of Melchizedek.as theophany or vision dream.

Psalm 110:The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

A theophany a representation of flesh signified as sinful, would not, could not satisfy the just demands of letter of the law "death"


Literal dying flesh signified as sinful was needed to complete the work of the gospel

Romans 8:2-42;For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:;That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[David Koberstein]

Observant of what?

Observant Jew? Outwardly of spiritually?

Romans 2:27-29; For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:;But he is a (born again ) Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;(death) whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Christians don't have rabbis. If you go to a church and ask to see a rabbi, you'll probably get a funny look, People will tell you that
you have come to the wrong place. You don't go to church and expect to see a rabbi there---rabbis are Jewish; they practice and
teach Judaism. That's a different religion.
Right?
Well, that is not entirely true. Christians have always had a rabbi. His name is Rabbi Yeshua---Rabbi Jesus the Nazarene.
Like today's rabbis, Jesus taught the Torah and practiced Judaism. In Jesus' lifetime there was no such thing as Christianity.
Jesus didn't have any followers who weren't Jewish. He rarely even talked with Gentiles. In fact, once when some Gentiles
asked Andrew if they could see Jesus, the Master tactfully refused to see them. While Jesus didn't deny their request outright,
the Greeks never got to see the Rabbi from Nazareth (John 12:20-26).
Jesus never went to Sunday school and never learned to say the Lord's Prayer. He never made the sign of the cross or said
Hail Mary. He didn't believe in sola scriptura or the Westminster Catechism. He was baptised, but not by a pastor---he was baptized
by a Jewish prophet named John. He wasn't a member of a church, and he never sat in a pew.
Think about that. Jesus wasn't a Christian. He was a first-century practicing Jew. In fact, Jesus was a devout Jew. He didn't just
practice Judaism to the minimal standard of his society. He was outstanding. He was truly pious. He was a rabbi
When I say that Jesus was a rabbi, I mean that he was a teacher of the Torah and of the Jewish way of life. These rabbis set the
bar for their communities; they were extremely serious about Judaism and worked hard to be holy and to obey God's
commandments.
Rabbis in Jesus' day were not exactly the same as rabbis are today. They weren't like pastors. They didn't perform weddings or
anything like that. They weren't ordained or accredited or licensed either.
Rabbi's were simply experts in the Law of Moses; many of them were blue-collar working people who spent their free time studying.
"Anyone could become an expert" if they spent enough time reading and learning. They didn't need a degree from a university
(there weren't any).
Jesus was a rabbi, an expert in the Law of Moses. He would have been able to answer people's questions about how to obey God.
He might have answered a bit differently than other rabbis of his time, but not because he didn't know the laws and traditions.
He simply had different priorities.

Blessings in our Messiah! ברכות במשיח שלנו!

Shalom שלום

 

[Twistie]

God changes? new thing?

It has always been a nation of priests. In the Old Testament God used the tribe of Levi, dying mankind to represent the kingdom of priests and the New Testament the promise in Psalms.

Jesus the son of man from the tribe of Judah. after the new order of Melchizedek.as theophany or vision dream.

Psalm 110:The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

A theophany a representation of flesh signified as sinful, would not, could not satisfy the just demands of letter of the law "death"


Literal dying flesh signified as sinful was needed to complete the work of the gospel

Romans 8:2-42;For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:;That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

So which verse says God changes n God sent his sone to chang up His Holy Temple by replacing God's Priest
Ya haven't given me any verse which states that..
Thanks!

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[B-A-C]

Melchizedek.as theophany or vision dream.

Mechizedek wasn't theophany or vision.. He was a real man who really existed.

Heb 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham as he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,

A theophany a representation of flesh signified as sinful,

Was Melchizedek a Theophany? And Do Theophanies Represent Sinful Flesh? A Biblical Response​

Recently, I encountered a statement suggesting that Jesus, as the Son of Man from the tribe of Judah, came “after the order of Melchizedek as a theophany or vision dream.” The speaker went on to claim that every theophany represents sinful flesh, and therefore only literal dying flesh could satisfy the demands of the law.

While parts of this statement affirm biblical truths—such as Jesus being from Judah and fulfilling the priesthood of Melchizedek—other parts are deeply problematic and require correction.

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1. Melchizedek Was a Real Man, Not a Theophany​

Genesis 14 introduces Melchizedek as the king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He meets Abraham, blesses him, and receives tithes. There is no indication that this was a vision or divine manifestation. He is presented as a historical figure.

Hebrews 7:3 says Melchizedek was “without father, without mother, without genealogy,” but this is best understood as a literary device to highlight his priesthood’s uniqueness—not a claim that he was divine or non-human. Unlike Levitical priests, whose lineage was essential, Melchizedek’s priesthood was based on divine appointment, not ancestry.

He is a type of Christ, not Christ Himself.

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2. Theophanies Are Holy Manifestations, Not Representations of Sinful Flesh​

A theophany is a visible manifestation of God, often in the Old Testament. Examples include:

• The burning bush (Exodus 3)
• The pillar of cloud and fire (Exodus 13)
• The Angel of the Lord (Judges 6, Joshua 5)

These appearances are holy, awe-inspiring, and often provoke fear or worship. They are not representations of sinful flesh. In fact, sinful flesh cannot even stand in the presence of God without purification (Isaiah 6:5–7).

To claim that every theophany represents sinful flesh is not only unbiblical, it borders on blasphemy, as it mischaracterizes God’s nature and His manifestations.

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3. Jesus Was Not a Theophany—He Was God Incarnate​

John 1:14 says, “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” Jesus was not a vision or temporary appearance—He was born of a woman, lived a human life, and died a literal death.

Hebrews 2:14–17 emphasizes that Jesus had to be made like His brethren in every respect to be a merciful and faithful high priest. His death was real, physical, and necessary to fulfill the law’s demand for justice.

Romans 8:3 says God sent His Son “in the likeness of sinful flesh,” meaning He came in real human flesh, but without sin.

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4. The Gospel Requires Real Flesh, Not Symbolism​

The law demanded death for sin (Hebrews 9:22). A symbolic death or visionary appearance could never satisfy that requirement. Jesus, the sinless Lamb of God, bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). His death was not metaphorical—it was the literal fulfillment of divine justice.

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Conclusion​

Melchizedek was a real man, used as a type to foreshadow Christ’s eternal priesthood. Theophanies are holy manifestations of God, not representations of sinful flesh. And Jesus was not a theophany—He was God in the flesh, who died a real death to redeem humanity.

To conflate these categories is to misunderstand the nature of God’s revelation and the core of the gospel itself.

 

[B-A-C]

Jesus Never Sinned​

1. Hebrews 4:15 (NASB 1995)
   
   

   "For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin."

2. 1 Peter 2:22 (NASB 1995)
   
   

   "Who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth."

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Jesus Is Not Like Earthly Priests Who Had to Offer Sacrifices for Their Own Sin​

1. Hebrews 7:26–27 (NASB 1995)
   

   "For it was fitting for us to have such a high priest, holy, innocent, undefiled, separated from sinners and exalted above the heavens;
   who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself."

 

[Garee]

Mechizedek wasn't theophany or vision.. He was a real man who really existed.

Heb 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham as he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,

The man of sin or earthly vessel that brings false prophecy tempted the Son of man and showed him all the kingdoms and all their individual glory without moving one inch in the sands. Was it a real man as a theophany

Without earthly parents is a clue. no birth certificate without descent. Flesh and blood as descent

Hebrew 7:2-4;To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.; Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

 

[Garee]

Christians don't have rabbis. If you go to a church and ask to see a rabbi, you'll probably get a funny look, People will tell you that
you have come to the wrong place. You don't go to church and expect to see a rabbi there---rabbis are Jewish; they practice and
teach Judaism. That's a different religion.
Right?
Well, that is not entirely true. Christians have always had a rabbi. His name is Rabbi Yeshua---Rabbi Jesus the Nazarene.
Like today's rabbis, Jesus taught the Torah and practiced Judaism. In Jesus' lifetime there was no such thing as Christianity.
Jesus didn't have any followers who weren't Jewish. He rarely even talked with Gentiles. In fact, once when some Gentiles
asked Andrew if they could see Jesus, the Master tactfully refused to see them. While Jesus didn't deny their request outright,
the Greeks never got to see the Rabbi from Nazareth (John 12:20-26)

Born again Jesus was bowed down to in accordance with his dying Jewish flesh and the man worshiping his flesh called Jesus Good master (Rabbi) meaning infallible teacher.

Jesus would never blaspheme the holy name his Holy Father the one good teaching master( Rabbi)

Mark 10:16-18 1And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?;And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

 

[Twistie]

yes, same calling of the father the new promised name Chrsitn


It was the Lord calling his wife Christian literally (residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his bride the church named her after the eternal cities founder and husband Christ

Christian a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations previously called her Isarel as in born again Israel not all isreal is born agin some remined as Jabob the deceiver divorced Israel .

Christ in us fulfilling the promise to rename in Isiah 62 . Some say the new name is not Chrsitn .If not then what is the name of the bride of all the nations?

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Amazing..

Yet no scripture of the Messiah speaking the word Christian no scripture the Father calling his people chrstians never once in the old..

It boggles me how one claims God don't change Yet claims He has gotten rid of the priesthood which is written in many passages n replaced them with Christians while yet stayed the same..
Just amazing

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[Garee]

Amazing..

Yet no scripture of the Messiah speaking the word Christian no scripture the Father calling his people chrstians never once in the old..

It boggles me how one claims God don't change Yet claims He has gotten rid of the priesthood which is written in many passages n replaced them with Christians while yet stayed the same..
Just amazing

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What I think is amazing that God promises to change the name to give it a meaning in respect to all the nations of the world and still offer no idea to what they think the name change is . God is not a racist His chosen people to be used in parables not chosen to race a work of the devil

if the new name is not Christian named after Christ the husband than what?

Isaiah 662 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.;And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

 

[Twistie]

What I think is amazing that God promises to change the name to give it a meaning in respect to all the nations of the world and still offer no idea to what they think the name change is . God is not a racist His chosen people to be used in parables not chosen to race a work of the devil

if the new name is not Christian named after Christ the husband than what?

Isaiah 662 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.;And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

What I think is amazing that none of it is written ya pick a few verses add your two sense n bam we got a whole new nation that God doesn't even mention in Revelation nor genesis only started when man was mocking man..

But ok if you say it's a Christian nation I guess your right n the Spirit of the Lord is wrong..

Hope all's well with ya

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[Garee]

What I think is amazing that none of it is written ya pick a few verses add your two sense n bam we got a whole new nation that God doesn't even mention in Revelation nor genesis only started when man was mocking man..

But ok if you say it's a Christian nation I guess your right n the Spirit of the Lord is wrong..

Hope all's well with ya

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Hi Thanks'

Not so much pick blindly out of a hat but more hoping to follow the prescription compare the spiritual unseen things of Christ to the same gospel understnding hid from the lost . Satan is not subject to the spiritual things of the gospel its all one guessing game to him

1 Corinthians 2:9-15 But as it is written, (sola scriptura) Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the (invisible ) things which God hath prepared for them that love him.;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.;Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.;Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual(invisable) .But the natural man receiveth not the (invisible) things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually (invisibly )discerned.;But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

What is he new name the Holy Father promised to name his bride of all the nations of the world in Isaiha 62?

Do you think the god of this world would honor Christ by naming Chrit's born again wife Christian meaning residents of the heavely city ?

How is that derogatory?

Will you compare the spiritual the spiritual? Or will you just pick one out of the hat?

 

[Twistie]

Hi Thanks'

Not so much pick blindly out of a hat but more hoping to follow the prescription compare the spiritual unseen things of Christ to the same gospel understnding hid from the lost . Satan is not subject to the spiritual things of the gospel its all one guessing game to him

1 Corinthians 2:9-15 But as it is written, (sola scriptura) Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the (invisible ) things which God hath prepared for them that love him.;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.;Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.;Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual(invisable) .But the natural man receiveth not the (invisible) things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually (invisibly )discerned.;But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

What is he new name the Holy Father promised to name his bride of all the nations of the world in Isaiha 62?

Do you think the god of this world would honor Christ by naming Chrit's born again wife Christian meaning residents of the heavely city ?

How is that derogatory?

Will you compare the spiritual the spiritual? Or will you just pick one out of the hat?

Ya ya r ya just picking Lil here lil there what you fail to Realize He is a Spirit He is not broken up into little pieces that make no sense n then twists Himself to fit others wants and ways..

So according to you God sent His son to change up the order of His Father's ways n to get rid of the priesthood n make it into Christians so I guess the Spirit of the Lord is lying well according to you but in the same breath you claim God don't change.

That's like insane frfr .

Anywho

I'll follow the Word Himself thank you He does quite well in guiding my way n revealing the Truth to me..

His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself".

Perhaps ya should take country with the Lord n not lean on your own wants in understanding what He is says

I'm j.s.


But you have a good evening

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[Garee]

So according to you God sent His son to change up the order of His Father's ways n to get rid of the priesthood n make it into Christians so I guess the Spirit of the Lord is lying well according to you but in the same breath you claim God don't change.

Change the order of salvation?

Surely not change the skin color of dying flesh as if being a outward Jew could profit for something

Jesus in John 6 said of his own flesh it profits for zero

Satan who has no spiritual understnding would have mankind belive God is a dying Jewish man as king of kings. The king of the antichrists tried it using Peter the serial denier who rebuked our Holy Father and forbid the Son of Man Jesus from doing the will of the Holy Father (Mathew 16)

God did not change the order. . he established the born-again order of the lamb slain from the foundation the six days the Holy Father did work .It began being demonstrated with the second, second born Enos .to emphasize dying mankind must be born again.

Many error thinking you must be born again is a New Testament principle and not established in Genesis 4

Geneis 25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed (Christ) instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.;And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

Then and not before they were born again.

The new born again seed was passed down to the second born until Moses and his first-born Gershom used to establish the ceremonial circumcision. Using Gershom to represent the end of the birth record of first-born Son of God Jesus the son of man. First of many born again Christians. In that way Jesu the son of man would not be ashamed to cal us brithers and sister in Chrsit the husband ..

Matthew 12:50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

Is Jesus your brother in Christ. Have you been born again?

 

[Garee]

We are told to turn from Evil to separate from the world idk what you see but I see a bunch of worldly people clinging into a title n it's written do not be like the hypocrites that love being seen going to worship on the corners n in the middle of the streets..
Seems many love the title but pay no attention to the root..
Written they love the fruit hate the tree..

It's all written only one who said the Father don't mean what He says was Satan himself telling eve God don't mean that..

Imma stick with the Word He never lead me astray it's man that has lied to me my whole life it's man who taught me the Love is lying to another to hide dirty little secrets so to say .

I don't go around called myself a derogatory word but that seems to be the main stream these days calling people crackers n the n word n the b word for woman just like they do it all in ignorance just like those who call themselves Christians do..

Eventually tho all will becoming into one Accord for it the Father who the kingdom belongs to not man..

It's written His is a Kingdom of priest..
As far as I'm concerned the Fathers Word is final..

One either follows the Word or the World..

Personally I choose the Word I seen what the world offers

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Which word or portion of scripture are you sticking with?.

Who said the new promised name Christian meaning "Residents of the city of Christ" is derogatory? Why is the word of God evil ?

Isaiah 62 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.;For as a young man (Christ )marrieth a virgin,( Bride" so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

What is the new name in the married land (heavenly city) if not Christian?

Did Satan inspire Christ to use what you say is shameful word Christian as a derogatory word in all three places?

1 Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

I say the name Chrisitan "residents of the heavenly city " glorifies the Holy Father

Satan who has no spiritual understnding cannot cast out Satan he hates the word, Christian. Murder them all. .

Acts 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

 

[Dylan569]

Jesus Never Sinned​

1. Hebrews 4:15 (NASB 1995)
   
   
2. 1 Peter 2:22 (NASB 1995)
   

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Jesus Is Not Like Earthly Priests Who Had to Offer Sacrifices for Their Own Sin​

1. Hebrews 7:26–27 (NASB 1995)

BAC, you wrote “Jesus Never Sinned” and that is surely true! I’ll offer an extension to that truth.

There is the older teaching seldom heard in this day, called the Impeccability of Christ. It is stated by R. L. Dabney as:“ It is useful also, in explaining how an impeccable Redeemer could be “tempted of the devil,” and yet wholly without sin. Had this holy soul been absolutely impervious to even the intellectual apprehension of attainable good, and to the natural sentiment arising on that apprehension, he would not have been susceptible of temptation. But he had these normal traits. Hence, he could be tempted, and yet feel not the first pulse of evil concupiscence.” In other words, Jesus Christ could not sin.
Systematic Theology

There is another translation that is preferred by some modern versions that read a bit different:

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who in every respect has been tested as we are, yet without sin. (Heb 4:15 NRSVue)

Myself, I believe in the impeccability of Christ, He could not have sinned. Jesus was full of the Holy Spirit, PLUS, He did not have the sin nature. Not having a sin nature, temptations, trials, or testing have no place in Christ to make a connection. The typical response is, If Jesus could not sin, how could he be tempted? But to be tempted or tested, does that mean you must be liable to fail?

 

[Bill]

Yeshua was an observant Jew
Shalom

Shalom brother

 

[Bill]

BAC, you wrote “Jesus Never Sinned” and that is surely true! I’ll offer an extension to that truth.

There is the older teaching seldom heard in this day, called the Impeccability of Christ. It is stated by R. L. Dabney as:“ It is useful also, in explaining how an impeccable Redeemer could be “tempted of the devil,” and yet wholly without sin. Had this holy soul been absolutely impervious to even the intellectual apprehension of attainable good, and to the natural sentiment arising on that apprehension, he would not have been susceptible of temptation. But he had these normal traits. Hence, he could be tempted, and yet feel not the first pulse of evil concupiscence.” In other words, Jesus Christ could not sin.
Systematic Theology

There is another translation that is preferred by some modern versions that read a bit different:

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who in every respect has been tested as we are, yet without sin. (Heb 4:15 NRSVue)

Myself, I believe in the impeccability of Christ, He could not have sinned. Jesus was full of the Holy Spirit, PLUS, He did not have the sin nature. Not having a sin nature, temptations, trials, or testing have no place in Christ to make a connection. The typical response is, If Jesus could not sin, how could he be tempted? But to be tempted or tested, does that mean you must be liable to fail?

I'm not sure about that whole idea. Because Jesus became flesh as the scripture says. Meaning that he had every possibility to sin. And also this other part which is also important to remember. That Jesus tells us that we are to be holy like He is. And the thing about God that's really crazy in my mind is how often He brings himself down to our level.

Look at the Covenants. A covenant is a two-way street. Where God expects from us is what we also expect from God. He puts us on a equal footing with him in the laws and the rules and what is expected of us.

No I'm not saying an equal footing as far as saying that I am God, that's ridiculous. I'm talking about the fact that as an example Jesus gave Peter the authority of his church. And what does he say to Peter what ""YOU"" allow on Earth will be allowed in heaven.