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Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by Randy Gross, Apr 14, 2017.

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  1. Does a pastor have the right to embarrass someone by tell the congregation that he is a sex offender
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  2. Welcome to the forum,

    A pastor has the obligation to speak whatever God tells him to speak. Obedience is what is necessary... obedience to God.

    There is a time to be silent and a time to speak and God which one is needed for any person and any time. [Ecc 3:7] The correct time is God's rather than yours or mine or a pastor's. A man of God needs to hear His voice:

    "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:27
  3. The Sex Offender register is public knowledge.
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  4. In general, no. A leader has to balance the privacy of the individual with the safety of the congregation.

    If someone is considered to be a risk, then it is common for some requirements to be put in place - for example to sit with and stay in the presence of two or three named individuals.

    Telling the whole congregation is humiliating. I wonder if it's the pastors clumsy way of 'getting rid of a problem'.
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  5. Why would a pastor bring that up...Why would a pastor discuss someone with someone else? It would be most inappropriate to say the least. The pastor needs wisdom and discretion.
  6. First you should not be embarrassed by it, but come to terms with what has passed. A person is either guilty of the act that has gotten them placed on the registrar or not. If so, in repentance, one will need to see this as an opportunity to help others that are inclined in this direction or seek to help others who are still in the darkness and have not been found out by man.

    Keep in mind that if one is not reconciled and repented of the acts one is guilty of, what shame we have to look forward to, when all will know?

    [Ecc 12:14 NKJV] For God will bring every work into judgment, Including every secret thing, Whether good or evil.

    [Mar 4:22 NKJV] "For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.

    [Luk 12:3 NKJV] "Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.

    [Jhn 3:19-21 NKJV] "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. "For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. "But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."

    [1Co 4:5 NKJV] Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one's praise will come from God.

    Mind you that I do not believe that there is a believer that looks forward to this day. Just insure in your heart that you have repented and truly know that you are forgiven!

    If this Pastor speaks of this in front of the congregation, then ask to speak in front of them as well. Show your repented heart to your brothers & sisters in Christ Jesus. If they are truly of the body of Christ, they will surely sorry with you, and rejoice that you have repented, walking in a new path in the Light of the Lord. Also, to be there to help you from backsliding.

    This will be one of the most difficult things to do, but if one has repented of that which "will" be brought to light of that day on the day of accounting. You will bare well in the more important time, for you were a sinner in darkness, but now in light of our Lord Jesus Christ, can stand! From my own heart that action should it be taken will be easier said than done, but one that will lift a very heavy burden from a repented heart.


    With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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  7. @Christ4Ever Have you assumed that Randy is a sex offender? He asked a question not made a confession.
  8. Yes, 1 Cor 5 is crystal clear on this. It would have to be a recent offense though.

    At my church we place the individual under discipline dependent on the severity of the crimes. Something like a sex offender is serious. We would definitely warn the whole church, but at the same time encourage the perpetrator to endure the discipline and redeem their position in the church.
  9. @Randy Gross

    If that is the case I beg his forgiveness.
    He is welcome to pass this information on to the one that was so identified. This might also be a way to show the other individual that he holds nothing against him as well and provide the spiritual support I'm sure is needed.

    Thanks for pointing this out brother!

    With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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  10. It is written..."Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear." (1 Tim 5:20)
    It's not a right,: it's a duty.
  11. Oh Ok.....When did your pastor last discuss your sins in the congregation? And......was it fun?
  12. What...the pastor is a sex offender?!
    He should be put in jail.
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  13. Due to the blessed power of God, I have committed no sin since my repentance from sin and my rebirth.
    The fear I would have of being "outed" by my pastor is one of God's extra boosts to keep me clean.
  14. Well That's wonderful that you haven't sinned...How long has it been?
  15. Just to share a feeling.

    Anytime you cover someone with shame they must first dig themselves out before they can ever stand up all the more harder when dirt is being heaped on them time after time. I feel lifting all up is my duty in Christ not only that but as a man I need to it is why I am alive. But as Christ dictates that I must forever do even in grief or sorrow.

    I am acutely aware that Christ placed Himself between all my grievous sin and it's consequences. Therefore it would be and indeed is my hearts position to stand in the way directly, and blunt that shame, and pick that one up, clean him off, directly restoring his esteem and bestowing equality and worth without any hesitation or retreat. Intuitively where do you think Jesus stands?

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