1 Peter 1:11-12

[clark thompson]

1 Peter 1:11-12

King James Version (KJV)


11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

1 Peter 1:11-12

The Message (MSG)


10-12 The prophets who told us this was coming asked a lot of questions about this gift of life God was preparing. The Messiah’s Spirit let them in on some of it—that the Messiah would experience suffering, followed by glory. They clamored to know who and when. All they were told was that they were serving you, you who by orders from heaven have now heard for yourselves—through the Holy Spirit—the Message of those prophecies fulfilled. Do you realize how fortunate you are? Angels would have given anything to be in on this!

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These are my thoughts, please share yours.



11 Christ suffering were pretold and fulfilled. Hissufferings showed His love to us. When He died he thought of us coming to Himand accepting Him as Lord and wanting to serve Him but, if He did not die forus this would be impossible. Christ suffered on earth to spare us from thesufferings from hell. The prophets also told about the life and resurrection ofChrist and some even mention the blessing to come.



12 The prophets who were told did not see Christ come as wetoday they believed thru not seeing but by faith. The word of God is tominister to us guide us and encourage and sometimes convict us but always leadsus to Jesus and His will. The gospel is what we preach today it is somethingthe prophets dreamed about, it is what they were promised and it is fulfilledin Jesus our Savior. The Spirit was sent to help and lead us to spread thegospel and follow His will. Having the Spirit allows us to have a part of Godleading us into God’s direction for us.

 

[Brother Paul]

The Bible tells us...

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15 And deliver ( to snatch away, rescue, save) them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world (not for God was so angry at the world) that He gave His only begotten Son…

Romans 5:8 But God shows his love for us (not His wrath) in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. This Christ’s death was an action of the love of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 2:1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath (we are children of “orge” – children of anger, and natural disposition, temper, indignation, agitation – this speaks of our character, not God’s anger at us because of a sense of a need to satisfy His justice), just as the others.

4 But God (now we address His attitude toward us), who IS rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us (loved as in past tense – while we were in our sins -notice it says nothing off His vehement hatred or anger at us), 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us (not wrath toward us)in Christ Jesus.

1 John 4:19 - We love Him because He first loved us (while we were still in out sin He loved us, and was not filled with wrath toward us).

So how does this compare to when John Macarthur says what happened on the cross was a "full outpouring of the wrath of God on the Son"? In his The Murder of Jesus, pp. 219-21):To [Jesus] was imputed the guilt of their sins, and He was suffering the punishment for those sins on their behalf. And the very essence of that punishment was the outpouring of God's wrath against sinners.

(parentheses mine...to question and clarify)

Doesn't this imply His anger toward us? Can the two views be reconciled? Was the cross an either/or or both?

In His love

Brother Paul

 

[Brother Paul]

What a love..who can really comprehend it? We are so blessed...