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  1. Bethel

    How to get out of a Cult. Part 1

    - 'For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.' (Eph 2:8-9) ------------------------------- Read the verse like this..... "For by Grace you are saved Through Faith.: Stop. Now......notice this part...
  2. Bethel

    Power to become

    - John 1:12 says.. """""But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name"""" Reader.....Notice the condition to receive this Power from God that IS the "power to BECOME a Son of God". The condition is..."received Him". Who...
  3. Bethel

    You : Shall never perish

    - Jesus says.....'"and you shall never perish". The "You" there, is all the born again, who are the : "predestined elect". Faith elects, God saves. Every born again person is predestined to be conformed into the Image of Christ. Are you born again? Then that is you. You gave God your faith, by...
  4. Bethel

    The "chosen vessel"

    - Jesus IS the TRUTH....... John 14:6 Paul , is the "chosen vessel", who is an apostle, called to deliver to the gentiles, "The Gospel of the Grace of God". and Church doctrine. Jesus is your Savior, and Paul is your example. Paul said..>"be a follower of me, as i follow Christ". No other...
  5. Bethel

    Living in REAL Faith

    - Lets look at a few verses that deal with growing in Grace as = how to effectively "work out your salvation"> 1.)""" leaving the first principles""" Reader....The bible is a progressive reveal. Its God revealing Himself, and its God's showing you how He deals with mankind from beginning to...
  6. Bethel

    Not by works

    - - When the Cross was raised, with God on it, shedding His blood for "all who will come"..or as Jesus told you.....>"If I be lifted up, i will draw all men to me".. And How does God as Christ on the Cross "draw all men" ......= John 3:16-17 He Sent PAUL......in "the time of the Gentiles" that...
  7. Bethel

    The End Times faithless

    - We are in the end of the "time of the Gentiles". This "TIME" started when Christ was raised on the Cross, and will end when the Great Trib starts. See that 'time period", ????? that has existed for over 2000 yrs? That is the "time of the Gentiles'. Its a "season" or a "dispensation" when God...
  8. Bethel

    God is Good.......the devil is evil.

    - God does not and did not create "evil". Evil exists, because Adam fell (sinned), and his dominion became the devil's ownership. When Adam obeyed the temptation to sin, ... he was giving the devil worship, as to sin, is to give the devil his due. The nature of sin, is the Devil's nature. See...
  9. Bethel

    Tongues

    - There are 9 spiritual gifts. Tongues are the last on the list, or the least...coming in at #9. Its rare to find the correct teaching, regarding this gift, so, here it is... The Gift of tongues, is the gift of a foreign language....that you can't speak, but you are given the ability to speak...
  10. Bethel

    When dealing with this Cult

    - When you are dealing with a "predestined elect" heretic....the thing you have to realize is that they are theologically confused as well as deeply deceived. So, that is the worst case scenario. For example, a believer can be "fallen from Grace" , as Paul explains in Galatians.......and that...
  11. Bethel

    ONE came for ALL

    - Reader...... To be reconciled to God, has to be based on God. Why? Because its God who requires it, and so, its God who came down here and became Christ on The Cross to provide to the world what HE REQUIRES so that anyone and everyone can become reconciled to Him....= ""The Gift of...
  12. Bethel

    Salvation Logic

    - Reader....here is something interesting. "SIN" didnt enter the world or the human race by Satan. If you have been taught that it did, then you were lied to, and you should not listen to liars. Now Lucifer/Satan/The Devil.... is a sinner, as he is sin itself. His nature is sin. So, the...
  13. Bethel

    The Armor

    - Why do Christians fail, and fail, to live a perfected discipleship? Now, here is the thing.. Your RIGHTEOUS is completed. Its a GIFT. "the Gift of Righteousness"..."the Gift of Salvation"....... the born again are : "MADE RIGHTEOUS". Not being made.....but "MADE righteous". See that...
  14. Bethel

    Following the peace of God

    - Romans 5 "we HAVE peace, through our Lord Jesus." Result? 1. Eternal Life 2. Born again 3. Seated in heavenly places in Christ 4. You shall never perish So, what is our responsibility, now that God has given us eternal peace with Himself, through the blood of Jesus the Lord. ? What is...
  15. Victor Van Heerden

    The Love and Wrath of God!

    The Love and Wrath of God! Today in our “politically correct” world and “ear-tickling listener friendly” preaching the scripturally sound, millennia old, doctrine of the “Wrath of God” has fallen on hard times. It would seem that any concept of God’s wrath is down played. “How can the concept...
  16. Victor Van Heerden

    Is Hell just separation from God or a place of horrendous eternal punishment as the Bible states?

    Today we have two predominant Christian viewpoints on hell. One is the horrendous traditional Biblical view and the other a modern more merciful form of Hell. Which one is correct? The Traditional one is that Hell (Gehenna) is the second death and a place of fiery torment and weeping and...
  17. Kirby D. P.

    Can God "Uncreate?"

    Hello. Polite atheist here. I come here for opinion from a genuine Christian perspective. All I have to offer in return is: I am willing to be convinced to abandon my atheism. I admit, that is a fairly high bar to overcome, but I promise it is true. So you find in me a chance to do a good deed...
  18. Chad

    Is It Really THAT Important to Talk About Hell?

    In a recently released video by The Gospel Coalition, Francis Chan is asked, “Is it really important to emphasize hell?” Before elaborating on all the reasons why, Chan gives a very straightforward and simple answer in the form of another question: “If you believe in it, how can you not?”...
  19. Born Again 2004

    A discussion about believing you are born again

    PLEASE NOTE: THE FIRST FEW POSTS IN THIS THREAD WERE MOVED FROM ANOTHER THREAD IN COUNSELLING FORUM. Please note also that the author of the first post (OP) is not the author of this thread --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If any of you lack...
  20. Kirby D. P.

    The Purpose of Damnation as Punishment

    Hello. A friendly atheist here. (I promise, not trolling for a fight – just some thoughtful Christian perspective.) My wife and I have two kids. We punish them as part of their upbringing (nothing physical). As far as I can figure, there are only two reasons (and they are admittedly related)...
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