Bible Expert on which Christianity is TRUE, the Book of Enoch, & if Christmas is Pagan

Christ4Ever · Tuesday at 8:11 PM

The title is really misleading to the content. I do suggest watching it for all levels of believers or nonbelievers.
A very interesting podcast I found on youtube that is long, but well worth watching if you have questions about Christianity.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-10T15:20:32-0400

Christ4Ever said:
The title is really misleading to the content. I do suggest watching it for all levels of believers or nonbelievers.
A very interesting podcast I found on youtube that is long, but well worth watching if you have questions about Christianity.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/

Christmas is pagan. Yes. Galatians warns against celebrating times, seasons and other vain traditions.

“...how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain." -- Galatians 4:8-11

"Standfast therefore, in the freedom of which Messiah has made us free and, be not entangled with a yoke of bondage." Galatians 5:1

Which Christianity is True? None of them. There is zero evidence that either Jesus or any author of the Bible is the founder of Christianity, which didn't arise until after 180 AD. True religion is defined in James 1:27, which is not remotely the same as Christianity, especially not modern Christianity.

Early followers of Jesus sometimes called themselves "christians" and other times, followers of "the way". None of them believed in a religion called Christianity, which doesn't exist in the New Testament. The focus of Jesus is on human behavior; how we should treat each other and how we need his help to "have love, one for another." This is not a religion unless one considers caring about other people a religion.

Paul, the author of much of the New Testament and Luke, the largest contributor to the New Testament, never referred to themselves as "christians"; rather, through to the end of Acts, they continue to refer to themselves as followers of "the way", even though they were called "christians" at Antioch apparently by outsiders, as a slur, similar to the "N" word in modern America. When asked by a Roman ruler if he is one of those "christians", Paul seems to deliberately sidestep using the term in his response, perhaps finding it offensive.

Christ4Ever · 2026-07-10T19:57:18-0400

Richard Aberdeen said:
Christmas is pagan. Yes. Galatians warns against celebrating times, seasons and other vain traditions.

“...how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain." -- Galatians 4:8-11

"Standfast therefore, in the freedom of which Messiah has made us free and, be not entangled with a yoke of bondage." Galatians 5:1

Which Christianity is True? None of them. There is zero evidence that either Jesus or any author of the Bible is the founder of Christianity, which didn't arise until after 180 AD. True religion is defined in James 1:27, which is not remotely the same as Christianity, especially not modern Christianity.

Early followers of Jesus sometimes called themselves "christians" and other times, followers of "the way". None of them believed in a religion called Christianity, which doesn't exist in the New Testament. The focus of Jesus is on human behavior; how we should treat each other and how we need his help to "have love, one for another." This is not a religion unless one considers caring about other people a religion.

Paul, the author of much of the New Testament and Luke, the largest contributor to the New Testament, never referred to themselves as "christians"; rather, through to the end of Acts, they continue to refer to themselves as followers of "the way", even though they were called "christians" at Antioch apparently by outsiders, as a slur, similar to the "N" word in modern America. When asked by a Roman ruler if he is one of those "christians", Paul seems to deliberately sidestep using the term in his response, perhaps finding it offensive.

First did you watch the video?

What were your thoughts on it?

To purpose, what do you when asked is your belief/religion, what do you say?

When talking to believers in Christ Jesus, I call them Brother or Sister. What do you call them?

I do not self-identify as a Christian, except to those that are not of the faith, or to those who are trying to pigeonhole one to a certain denomination. For I truly believe there is but one church, and that is the Body of Christ with Jesus as the Head. I need no other self-identifier as many do.

As far as it being given to disciples/followers of Jesus Christ being called Christians as a slur, I look at it as Peter says it, If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed. You are His, and no matter how others see you, you shouldn’t let it wound you deeply. In truth, their opinions matter little, even though it’s natural to want others to like us. Just like you Richard are not from what I can tell concerned about what others think or say about you, why should anyone else be so about you of them? Not at all.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-10T21:11:05-0400

Christ4Ever said:
First did you watch the video?
What were your thoughts on it?

To purpose, what do you when asked is your belief/religion, what do you say?

When talking to believers in Christ Jesus, I call them Brother or Sister. What do you call them?

I do not self-identify as a Christian, except to those that are not of the faith, or to those who are trying to pigeonhole one to a certain denomination. For I truly believe there is but one church, and that is the Body of Christ with Jesus as the Head. I need no other self-identifier as many do.

As far as it being given to disciples/followers of Jesus Christ being called Christians as a slur, I look at it as Peter says it, If anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed. You are His, and no matter how others see you, you shouldn’t let it wound you deeply. In truth, their opinions matter little, even though it’s natural to want others to like us. Just like you Richard are not from what I can tell concerned about what others think or say about you, why should anyone else be so about you of them? Not at all.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Nick

Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-10T21:14:36-0400

I have no religion, other than I agree with James 1:27. Jesus is not a religion. He came to give us life and to give us life more abundantly. I view religion as placing oneself under laws, rules, regulations and/or vain traditions, which make us less free. The goal of Jesus and his free salvation is to make us more free, "free, indeed," not less free.

NBTT · 2026-07-11T08:20:21-0400

I listened to the video. The guest has great historical knowledge and represented the Christian faith very well. You can see the non christians there struggling with their "goodness" being filthy rags to a perfect God. I'm not sure about his view on christmas' date not being related to pagan traditions but that's a small part of the video.

Christ4Ever said:
I do not self-identify as a Christian, except to those that are not of the faith

I believe in Jesus and the gospel. I have no denomination. I call myself Christian or sometimes "born again Christian". What should I call myself?

Christ4Ever · 2026-07-11T08:26:32-0400

Richard Aberdeen said:
I have no religion, other than I agree with James 1:27. Jesus is not a religion. He came to give us life and to give us life more abundantly. I view religion as placing oneself under laws, rules, regulations and/or vain traditions, which make us less free. The goal of Jesus and his free salvation is to make us more free, "free, indeed," not less free.

There is some truth in what you say, but also a distortion to believe that freedom of Jesus entails individual separation of faith and worship in a communal/corporate setting which is what many make religion to be.

I guess if the gathering of people in general are what seems to drag you in the direction of/in a direction contrary to God's Word and His will for you in life, then I could agree that separating yourself, maybe like monks have done over the ages might be of benefit for you and give the thought of freedom. We are social creatures, as can be seen in many ways, and social media out there shows this truism in how much we look to it! lol

Anyway, I do believe that we need each other, kind of like a support group, which when discussing our gathering together throughout scripture is pretty evident. God has provided and allowed for this of who we are in Him. Does that mean you’re less free because of it because gathering sets certain dictates to follow? I don’t see being bonded in Christ and joining others in worship and praise as taking away from the freedom we have in Him. Even James pointed to such things after mentioning what pure and undefiled religion as being, when he then continues to talk about how we should conduct ourselves when gathering together. Would that then be considered rules, or become a tradition after a time?

The freedom we should be seeking is the one from corruption and sin, which can be found in Jesus Christ, and as a part of the Body of Christ. If you want to call it something else besides religion or this denomination or that one, because you have angst against how it is done, then so be it. Just don't think that you don't need it in some form, because if that were so, you won't be here on Talk Jesus besides to test your own studies/beliefs.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Note: So, no thoughts on the video, which is why the thread was started?

Christ4Ever · 2026-07-11T08:35:56-0400

NBTT said:
I listened to the video. The guest has great historical knowledge and represented the Christian faith very well. You can see the non christians there struggling with their "goodness" being filthy rags to a perfect God. I'm not sure about his view on christmas' date not being related to pagan traditions but that's a small part of the video.

I believe in Jesus and the gospel. I have no denomination. I call myself Christian or sometimes "born again Christian". What should I call myself?

Thanks for responding on the video. I agree the traditional practice's part on Christmas, Halloween, etc. probably needed to be fleshed out a bit more theologically, but overall, he comported himself rather well considering who he was interacting with. lol

As to your question: Well to me anyway, Brother in Christ is enough.

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-11T11:10:53-0400

NBTT said:
I listened to the video. The guest has great historical knowledge and represented the Christian faith very well. You can see the non christians there struggling with their "goodness" being filthy rags to a perfect God. I'm not sure about his view on christmas' date not being related to pagan traditions but that's a small part of the video.

I believe in Jesus and the gospel. I have no denomination. I call myself Christian or sometimes "born again Christian". What should I call myself?

Try calling yourself a follower of Jesus. Christianity is a human invention not found anywhere in the Bible; it cannot help you or change a single moral hair on your head.

NBTT · 2026-07-11T12:17:10-0400

Christ4Ever said:
I truly believe there is but one church, and that is the Body of Christ with Jesus as the Head.

Amen. That is Christianity to me. You said in the OP that "The title is really misleading" and it is indeed confusing to me since it suggests more than one Christianity/church.

Merriam-Webster: "one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ"

Even by dictionary definition Christianity is a single thing.

Christ4Ever said:
The freedom we should be seeking is the one from corruption and sin, which can be found in Jesus Christ

Amen. We are all born as slaves to sin. Faith in Jesus sets us free from that. We then become a servant of Jesus Christ. It's not a "do as thou wilt" kind of freedom. Following Love is an ongoing battle against our flesh.

Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-11T12:41:08-0400

NBTT said:
Amen. That is Christianity to me. You said in the OP that "The title is really misleading" and it is indeed confusing to me since it suggests more than one Christianity/church.

Merriam-Webster: "one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ"

Even by dictionary definition Christianity is a single thing.

Amen. We are all born as slaves to sin. Faith in Jesus sets us free from that. We then become a servant of Jesus Christ. It's not a "do as thou wilt" kind of freedom. Following Love is an ongoing battle against our flesh.

There is no Christianity in the Bible. True religion is defined in James 1:27, which isn't remotely the same as Christianity. Christianity is just another religion invented by people, that has no biblical or rational basis. There is zero evidence that Jesus had any intention of founding a religion called Christianity.

NBTT · 2026-07-11T13:27:34-0400

Richard Aberdeen said:
There is no Christianity in the Bible. ... Christianity is just another religion

If you google "define cartesian"

Code:

Cartesian

adjective

1. relating to Descartes and his ideas

noun

1. a follower of Descartes

There were no followers of Descartes before Descartes. The word to describe followers of Descartes wasn't created/used until followers of Descartes existed. The word Christian to describe a follower of Jesus only came about when followers of Jesus existed.

Why say Christian instead of "follower of Jesus"? It's a shorter way to convey the same information. That's what words are for.

I pretty much never use the word religion other than to say "religion never saved anyone".

Richard Aberdeen · 2026-07-11T15:54:14-0400

NBTT said:
If you google "define cartesian"

Code:

Cartesian adjective 1. relating to Descartes and his ideas noun 1. a follower of Descartes

There were no followers of Descartes before Descartes. The word to describe followers of Descartes wasn't created/used until followers of Descartes existed. The word Christian to describe a follower of Jesus only came about when followers of Jesus existed.

Why say Christian instead of "follower of Jesus"? It's a shorter way to convey the same information. That's what words are for.

I pretty much never use the word religion other than to say "religion never saved anyone".

Christianity doesn't remotely follow Jesus, not even close. Jesus didn't come to establish a religion, he defines why he came in Luke 4 and also in John, he says "I have come that they might have life and, might have life more abundantly."

The Bible says the sinners and common people heard Jesus gladly. Sinners and common people today do not hear Christianity gladly, in fact, they make fun of it on Saturday Night Live.

If Jesus was born in America today, he would be in great demand on talk shows and programs like Saturday Night Live. They would fight each other for the chance of having Jesus as their guest. On the other hand, I have no doubt Jesus would rail against the leaders of conservative Christianity, for being filled with hypocrisy and holding the truth in unrighteousness, just like the Pharisees of old.

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