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Me, too. Great reminders!
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Lol
"Untrue. I'm looking to make a fool of you."
How true this is.
Once some years ago, I was at a church service. And a lady was sobbing on the floor forgive me forgive me and she was laying down on her side. The Lord spoke to me and told me to lay down next to her on the floor and tell her that she was forgiven. I said to the Lord I'm going to look like a fool laying down there ( lol ). The Lord said to me "so look like a fool and get on the floor" and i did.
I’m not gonna forgive my enemies who ruined my life (including my parents who started my life) though (no I’m not full of pride)
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It seems you are saying you are the source of forgiveness.
Romans 12 lovingly commands the believer to offer their dying bodies as living sacrifices and then lovingly commands the believer to let no debt remain outstanding except for the continuing dept to love one another. We have the power to forgive but not excuse what others do.
Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Above An attitude adjustment
If we hold an angry grudge, we can become a slave to the person and become like them in anger.
Believers have Christ to help forgive the enemy If not when they awake, he is right there looking to ruin the whole day Satan the accuser of man's anger day and night 24- -7
Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
Interesting the above translation would seem to be a commandment "Be ye anger " And another."In your anger" recognizing as a fallen race we are angry, James informs mankind anger does not bring about the righteous life he desires of us
James 1:20;For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
. Forgiveness can heal the whole body
In the parable below The Lord did not let his wrath destroy his bride before the Sun went down
Numbers 25:4 And the Lord said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel.
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Yes indeed forgiveness heals the heart the mind and the soul. It's following in the steps of Jesus
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It's answers like this in regards to forgiveness that tell me that you have a long road to go. LOL so I will keep you in my prayers.
May God bless you always amen
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Thank you
God is not a man as us and neither is there any infallible fleshly interpreter set between dying mankind and living invisible God
As a born-again believers' sons of God they would never look to the flesh and blood of the Son of man Jesus. If Christ ot to be confused with the Son of man Jesus is not talking from within, then he is silent .
Jesus the Son of man said to Christ the Holy Father not as I will an apostle\ prophet but you as the one that empowers them
Brothers and sisters in Christ are not Charles Mansion, Jimmy Jones Wanabes Again as if Eternal God was a man as us
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I can't fully agree with that, because God does send us profits from time to time. Or at least people I feel are prophets that may not stand out as a profit but through the preaching that they have or the messages they give you can see it if you know how to look. I would say that Gandhi and Mother Teresa we're good examples of that
Hi Thanks for the reply
One thing that I am learning is the importance of the foundation of words .Take away the meaning of one word creates the tower of Babel
It should be the first lesson in Sunday school. Change the meaning of one word it can change the authority of the author.
Define words before learning how to use .
Genesis 3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Adding four words of false prophecy by Satan the false lying prophet "Neither shall you touch". . mankind began dying and must be born again .
Like the example in creation. Faithfull Christ spoke the living words "let there be Light" and what he hoped for testified to the power of the word "And there was the presence of God Light" . . .in him no darkness. He did not say "let there be light" and "there was darkness"
Prophet and Apostle two words that have all but lost the foundation Sent messenger, UPS, Fed X, Pony Express, smoke signals, Google.com
Prophecy, the declared will.
Prophesy, declaring the will of another.
Prophet, one sent (apostle) with prophecy. According to the living word
I would consider you a apostle/prophet as you declare the will of the Holy Father . In that way an apostle is not separate from a prophet . Apostles prophecy the will of God .
Strangers as born again brothers in the Lord can commune without being aware of each others belief . The word angel
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: (Billy) for thereby some have entertained
You could say the household of this message (apostle) board Talk Jesus .
Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
The loving warning to sent messengers apostles like Abel. Still sends them out two by two ;
very valuable tool
Deuteronomy 4:2Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments(plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.
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Some really good points you make.
I just want to show you something that you have a little error on. Just some wording.
""Like the example in creation. Faithfull Christ spoke the living words "let there be Light" and what he hoped for testified to the power of the word "And there was the presence of God Light" . . .in him no darkness. He did not say "let there be light" and "there was darkness"""
When you stated " Faithfull Christ .... and what he hoped for "
When God created there wasn't a moment where He wondered if it would happen. When God created, it was already real within Him, He would not be hoping for anything - as it was His WILL to be. To exist.
I do not know if you understand what i am saying here.
Thank you for the compliment apostle/ prophet. Without being boastful, I can tell you that it was the Father that showed that to you.
I know many Angels , some of my best friends are Angels
Thanks I like the angel thing.. . .you're a real angel brother.
There is no moment of wonder. Its "let there be" and it was a good work.
Satan the counterfeiter the kings of lying with all power. . .lying signs to wonder ,wonder, wonder, marvel after as if true prohecy as it is written
Believers have no need to wonder, wonder wonder (Limbo purgatory) they have prohecy "Let there be"
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
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There is a purgatory. A place of purging and learning. It is God's greatest grace for mankind.
Certainly there are many that walk headlong into hell. Those who place themselves above others run headfirst into the abyss. They do not care even when they know they will spend eternity in hell.
But for those Heaven bound, there are those last elements of sin, as in heaven there is no sin. Where God's Love is sin can not be.
There are different types of sin, most people only pray forgiveness for the sins they are aware of. But there are indirect sins as well. Neglect is one of the biggest ones. And then there is the sin of society. This is where group sin occurs, and it can be a variety of different things. Jokes that put down other people because of the race or because of their failures, failures in the fact that maybe the person is gay, or all sorts of things. These things too are types of sin.
God understands us after all he created us. So Even though we live good lives And we are born again And We strive To be good in the eyes of God And maybe we ask God for the Forgiveness of our sins And at that moment we are forgiven but Then we go out and we do stupid things all over again, it's just who we are.
And like I said Purgatory is also a place of learning. You may have heard me say that there are many people out there whose hearts are circumcised and yet maybe they don't want anything to do with Christians because they've had a bad experience with Christians. And yet their hearts are still Christian. So though people like this struggle to understand who Jesus is because they've had a bad experience God sees the person's heart so he brings them into purgatory and teaches them about who Jesus is they haven't done things that are evil that would send them to hell but on the other hand they need to be prepared to go to heaven.
One last thing I know that there's going to be probably a lot of flack from many people on this whole thing that I'm talking about. But what people are completely missing and I mean completely missing it and it happens all the time I mean I've seen it a million times here on Talk Jesus. When a person dies physically, they're not dead they're still alive. The physical body dies yes but they're not dead. So when I'm talking about these people learning about the truth of Jesus in purgatory. We're not talking about dead people, we're talking about those that have gone on from this planet but are still the same people they were while on Earth because it's the same person the Same Soul who was in the physical body and is now in the spiritual realm.
I would agree except for the idea of purgatory
I would offer. It would seem some do not believe we are living in earthen bodies of death carrying out the letter of the law. Death appointed to all. Daily suffering the pangs of hell
Called the days of evil or dying in Ecclesiastics 12 ending with universal Alzheimer's never to remember the things of dying mankind forver and ever. Now is the time we can love our loved ones. before we receive our new incorruptible
Yoked with Christ he makes our daily burden lighter with a living hope beyond what the eyes see (corruption)
Purgatory is desgned for the adult sinner or limbo for the younger or baby sinners A false doctrine that simply do despite to the fulness of grace.
The full cost of salvation
That false doctrine was passed down from the Pharisees with Sadducees to the Roman Catholic with Greek Orthodox.
In that way there must be differences of opinion or heresies as oral traditions Some celebrate occasions like Christmas or Halloween some do not.
As long as they do not do despite to the fulness of grace the whole cost of salvation
If they do despite to the fulness of grace then we can make a judgment and offer the gospel of grace. The gospel of light .
Catholicism teaches that only the queen mother named Mary after our blessed sister in the lord received the fulness of grace the full price of salvation and the rest of the world an unknown, un-knowable remnant of grace and it off to wonder, wonder. wonderland.
1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies (opinions) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, (Queen Mary mother of God) even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
The parable using Lazarus and the word hell adds to the understand the dead cannot suffer they are dear than a door nail
Why. would a person desire to do despite to the full ness of grace.?
Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
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"Purgatory is desgned for the adult sinner or limbo for the younger or baby sinners A false doctrine that simply do despite to the fulness of grace."
Purgatory is the fullness of God's grace.
I understand that you do not understand it, and that you've been taught differently. That's okay it's just the way it is.
But I can tell you without a doubt that it exists. In my spiritual work I have gone there often doing various things, mostly in the form of teaching. Maybe I should phrase it this way, that the Lord sends me there to teach others about Christ, and to lead others to do good work for other people.
Remember that even though a person dies that there are still alive. And those who are living can help others who are also living in this world. So in my spiritual work especially in the area of spiritual warfare I will often bring those who are in purgatory to join with the angels and myself and spiritual warfare against the darkness.
There are many preachers in purgatory and when you meet them the first words out of their mouth typically is this " thank God Purgatory is real". The reason is based on their own philosophy of understanding God's word. They would all be in hell. Because they died in their sins.
I think I discussed before somewhere about the fact that there are sins that we do not know that we commit. So often negligence, so often Pride, so often so many different types of sins. We do not consciously do the sins, yet they still exist. God understands us. He understands humans and they're foolishness. This is why Purgatory exists, to cleanse us of these Foolish sins that we commit without even realizing that we do it.
All you have to do is go to a discussion about Catholics even at this own website. Where Catholics are mocked and ridiculed, you may even join in on the fun. But this way of thinking is incorrect, I do not allow my fellow Catholics to talk down to my brothers and sisters who are not Catholic. We are not above my brothers and sisters nor are my brothers and sisters above me and the other Catholics. We Are All Sons and Daughters of the Father and we need to act like that too. Forgiveness, and acceptance of being forgiven from both sides needs to take place, otherwise I condemn my own brothers and sisters with Foolish Pride. And I try to take the stick out of your eye before taking the log out of my own.
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Yoked with Christ our daily bread, suffering living in these earthen dying bodies our burden can be lighter. Our suffering does not add to his living sacrifice.
Thats a Catholic doctrine every time they suffer in any way, they are taught it takes away time from wondering in purgatory or limbo.
Remember only the queen mother of heaven received the fullness of grace the full cost of salvation. The rest of the world an unknown remnant
The idea of suffering when a person has no means (flesh returned to dust) is simply false prophecy. Built on reincarnation the returning of the flesh.
Same principle when Catholicism in the 10th.century dug up the bones of Pope Formosa dressed up the bones in official Pope attire and pronounced judgment on those bones. Then passed around the bones idols to be venerated You could say a living Purgatory (re-incarnation)
Believers' sons of God the bride of Christ all die not receiving the promise of a new incorruptible body neither male nor female . . .Jew no gentile
Colossians 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
That which is behind the afflictions of Christ. . . . . our suffering does not add to his suffering labor of love. The arrows of the evil meant for Christ our invisible God strike all that name the name Christ.
Remember Satan is not subject to the gospel he has no understanding coming from God .It's all one big guessing murderous work .
Saying If you are the Son of God? over and over
It's I believe it could be the main reason Christ spoke in parables and without spoke not. keep the devil confused .
Mathew 16:3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread
Mathew 16.6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a Stone;
Three is used to denote the end of a matter in parables. Two ifs for the father of lies and three as it is written. (Sola scriptura)
Sola scriptura makes purgatory disappear
Mathew 16:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
