THE BOOK OF REVELATION
How does It start??
The Revelation of Jesus Christ. How did He get? God gave It to HIM. Was It's Purpose? To show TO HIS SEVANTS --THINGS -- That MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS.
Dose that mean Those Things are for the present age? HARDLY! Yet Today people keep tang what was written for Isreal, IN THAT AGE ; AND FORCING IT INTO THIS AGE!
Are believers Today a part of THOSE JEWS? Of course not ! Yet This Text keeps being taken out Its contexts!
What was For Isreal, and To Isreal; should be left that way! What About, There is no condemnation; for Those in Christ Jesus?
Notice it says: THOSE IN CHSTI JESUS! It does not say, Those in Jesus Christ. Why the difference? Jeus was Who? Who did Peter say Jesus was? What id Jesus say to Peter after He said It? What does the seedline in Matthew say about Jesus; who He was?
It would be interesting to see the comments about This.
DEEPSEEKER
“Your comment seems to show lack of knowledge for what I do know, and understand.”
Let me stop you right there — no one cares how many
years you’ve been
seeking. The Pharisees studied Scripture their whole lives too — and still
crucified the Word made flesh standing in front of them. Long study without the Spirit doesn’t make you wise. It makes you
twice the son of Hell (Matt. 23:15).
“You have no idea of what I may fully understand...”
No, but I can see
what you’ve said — and it’s a Scofield-Darby fever dream that
splits the Kingdom of God in two, rewrites the identity of Israel, and dumps the teachings of Jesus into the “not for this age” trash bin. That’s not understanding — that’s
deception dressed up as revelation.
“Be careful. The judgment you use shall be used for You!”
Oh, you mean Matthew 7:2? Cool — let's quote the
rest of what Jesus said:
“You shall know them by their
fruit.” (Matt. 7:16)
And what’s your fruit?
Dividing Christ into separate kingdoms,
denying the Church is Israel, and
pretending Revelation isn’t for us — even though it was sent to the
churches (Rev. 1:4, 1:11) and ends with a call to
keep the words of the prophecy of this book (Rev. 22:7).
“The Revelation of Jesus Christ... To show His servants things that must shortly come to pass... Dose that mean Those Things are for the present age? HARDLY!”
Actually — YES. It
explicitly says it’s for His
servants, and unless you're claiming that modern Christians aren’t His servants, your entire premise just caught fire. Also:
“Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who
keep what is written in it.” (Rev. 1:3)
If Revelation isn’t for us, then
Jesus is lying. You going to accuse the risen Lord of false advertising?
“Are believers Today a part of THOSE JEWS? Of course not!”
Then you’ve just rejected the Word of God:
“A Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart.” (Rom. 2:29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“If you are Christ’s, you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“He made the two one.” (Eph. 2:14)
There is
one people of God — not two. No separate plan. No race-based kingdom. The cross destroyed that wall —
you’re rebuilding it.
“What was for Israel, and to Israel, should be left that way.”
No, sir. That’s
dispensational blasphemy. The apostles didn’t leave the Gospel “for Israel only” — they
preached it to the world. Paul said clearly,
“There is
no longer Jew or Gentile… but all are one in Christ Jesus.” (Gal. 3:28)
If you put that wall back up, you’ve
made Christ a servant of division, and His blood a tool of partiality — which is heresy.
“Notice it says: THOSE IN CHSTI JESUS! It does not say, Those in Jesus Christ.”
This is where your argument fully collapses into gibberish. You’re parsing a typo like it’s a divine code. Are you suggesting "Christ Jesus" and "Jesus Christ" are different people? This isn’t revelation — this is
word salad with a side of delusion.
You’ve twisted prophecy, divided Christ, mutilated Israel, and now you’re playing crossword games with the name of the Lord. You’re not deep — you’re drowning in Scofield’s septic theology. And if you don't repent and come back to the
actual Gospel, Jesus Himself will say:
“You nullify the Word of God for the sake of your tradition.” (Matt. 15:6)
One Body. One Kingdom. One Israel. One Christ.
Not the nonsense you're preaching.
Let me give you a
history lesson your Scofield Study Bible never taught you:
For
1,800 years, not a single apostle, church father, bishop, reformer, or theologian believed your
dispensational blasphemy. Every last one of them — from the men who walked with Jesus to the firebrands who faced down Rome would have looked you in the face and said:
“You don’t know what Israel is, you don’t know what the Church is, and you’ve fractured the Gospel into heresy.”
Here’s the
full honor roll of those who would call you deceived — by name:
THE APOSTLES (1st Century)
Paul the Apostle – Romans 9–11: “Not all Israel is Israel… Gentiles are grafted in… One olive tree.”
Peter – 1 Peter 2:9-10: “You [the Church] are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation.”
John – Revelation 1:6: “He has made
us [the Church] a kingdom and priests.”
James – Acts 15:15-17: quotes Amos and says it’s fulfilled
now in the Church.
The Author of Hebrews – Hebrews 8: “The old covenant is obsolete.” (Goodbye, separate Jewish plan.)
Jesus Christ Himself – John 10:16: “One flock, one Shepherd.”
EARLY CHURCH FATHERS (1st–4th Century)
Ignatius of Antioch (c. 110 AD) – Called the Church “the new Israel” and warned of Judaizers.
Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD) –
“We are the true Israel, spiritual Israel.”
Irenaeus (c. 180 AD) – Taught covenant fulfillment in Christ through the Church.
Tertullian (c. 200 AD) – Explicitly rejected any future Jewish kingdom.
Origen (c. 250 AD) – Affirmed the Church as the fulfillment of God’s promises.
Cyprian of Carthage (c. 250 AD) – Referred to the Church as the “true Zion.”
Athanasius (c. 325 AD) – Saw the Church as heir to Israel’s promises, not any future "national Israel".
Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 330 AD) – Taught that the Church is the prophesied Kingdom of God.
POST-NICENE GIANTS (4th–6th Century)
Augustine of Hippo (354–430 AD) –
“The Church is the kingdom of God on earth.”
John Chrysostom (347–407 AD) – Preached against any future Jewish-centered age.
Jerome (347–420 AD) – Rejected literal millennialism and any Zionist interpretation.
Cyril of Jerusalem (313–386 AD) – Saw the Church as the continuation of Israel.
REFORMATION & POST-REFORMATION ERA (1500s–1700s)
Martin Luther – Rejected any return to Old Covenant Judaism:
“The Jews have no special promise apart from Christ.”
John Calvin –
“All the promises made to Israel are now fulfilled in the Church.”
John Knox – No hint of two peoples or two kingdoms.
Jonathan Edwards – Taught postmillennialism; Church is spiritual Israel.
The Westminster Confession (1646) –
“The visible Church is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ.”
Matthew Henry –
“The true Israel is the spiritual seed — the Church.”
NONE of these titans ever taught:
A “Church Age” separate from “Israel’s Kingdom Age”
A pre-trib rapture
A return to Jewish temple sacrifices
A split between the “Kingdom of Heaven” and “Kingdom of God”
That Revelation was “for Israel only”.
That national Israel will reign apart from Christ and the Church
WHO DID TEACH THAT GARBAGE?
John Nelson Darby – 1830s cult theology
C.I. Scofield – 1909 fraud with a criminal past and Zionist backers
Oxford University Press – Who mass printed Scofield’s Bible to reshape American Christianity
Rockefeller Foundation & Zionist financiers – Who weaponized Scofield’s heresy to turn the Church into a geopolitical pawn
You are not in the stream of historic Christianity.
You’re not aligned with Christ, Paul, or any apostle.
You’re not rooted in Church teaching.
You’re not continuing the Reformation.
You’re echoing a 19th-century lawyer’s
Zionist-funded cult manual.
And if you think Revelation doesn’t apply to the Church — or that national, secular, False Israel™ (dirt) is still owed a throne — then you are
under the veil of delusion Paul warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11. Israel is the Body of Christ. Period. The End.
“They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.”
Time to choose:
Stand with the apostles — or stand with Scofield.
Because one built the Church on the Rock…
And the other built a doctrine on
sand, lies, and Rothschild ink.
