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Why does God send people to hell?

You can try googling "Who is the disciple that Jesus loved".
You can try reading your Bible.

Therefore the sisters sent to Him, saying, "Lord, behold, he whom You love is sick."- John 11:3 NKJV

Sometimes y'all are just blind as a bat.
[Jhn 21:23-24 YLT] 23 yet Jesus did not say to him, that he doth not die, but, 'If him I will to remain till I come, what -- to thee?' 24 this is the disciple who is testifying concerning these things, and he wrote these things, and we have known that his testimony is true. John 21:23-24 YLT

So, are you saying that Lazarus is the one who wrote the book of John?

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Seems pretty much the same to me. :)
Birds of a feather.
You have no one to blame but yourself, since I use the Interlinear by your suggestion, you must be part of the Murder as well. :)

The Greek-English Interlinear New Testament (Zondervan)
You mean Mounce's version? I had high hopes for his work, but he's more a toady than a bird.

Bill is the founder and President of BiblicalTraining.org, serves on the Committee for Bible Translation (which is responsible for the NIV translation of the Bible), ... (LINK).
And since Zondervan owns the NIV copyright, Mounce is just the toady in their back pocket. There is no way that Mounce would author an interlinear that would get him fired. Zondervan itself is owned by News Corp, meaning Rupert Murdoch. So no possible bias there, right?

The first Interlinear that Zondervan published was based on the work by Dr. Alfred Marshall, but Zondervan published an interlinear to sell NIV Bibles. When somebody finally realized that Marshal's Interlinear directly contradicted portions of the NIV, Marshal was dropped like a hotcake.
Actual the 1958 version of the Greek-English was done as you know by Dr. Alfred Marshall, and is the one being credited to through Samuel Bagster and Sons LTD 1958. Which is what I am using.

No mention of Mounce here and the NIV. So, since it includes the KJV as well as the NIV as being Zondervan and Bagster and Sons LTD for the Greek, are you stating that Mounce should be credited the Greek Translation and not Dr. Marshall through the Bagster and Sons LTD as is the case with the book I have? Or is it just speculation on your part that this is what happened?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Added note: I did a little more research and checked the 1894 Greek-English and it read the same as the 1958 version.
 
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So, are you saying that Lazarus is the one who wrote the book of John?
It's the only thing that makes sense. Yes. (I have posted this before.)

And it seems very obvious. Although I will allow that "Lazarus" might be some code name for the Apostle John, but that's a stretch.

As I've said before, one just cannot understand John unless one has read Philo.

And there are a few other disturbing facts. John has Foot Washing, but not Communion. The Synoptics have Communion, but not Foot Washing. The historical time line is not the same. The "Woman caught in adultery" story is located in various positions based upon the manuscript family, and is just not present in the oldest manuscripts. Only the Gospel labeled John has the claim of Jesus being the Lamb of God, which seems to lend support to the Passover Lamb doctrine, although this occurs only twice in the first chapter, and the words are put in the mouth of John the Baptist - Jesus never says this. It's such a dramatic doctrine that I am puzzled why neither Matthew, Mark, or Luke bears record of this (I would have thought at least Luke). Finally, at first glance, the Gospel named John changed the day that Jesus was crucified. In Mt. Mk. and Lk, Jesus celebrates and eats the Passover. In "John," though Jesus is crucified when the Passover lambs were killed, so Jesus was dead by the time Passover was eaten. (BUT... one can put the text through some hoops to rectify that concern.)

Sorry for the fact dump...

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Well I'm a piece of work in progress.

But y'all really do frustrate the heck out me.

Rhema
 
You have no one to blame but yourself, since I use the Interlinear by your suggestion,
The one I suggested (for which I always give a link) is out of print.

But when one does a search on:
The Greek-English Interlinear New Testament (Zondervan)
One gets this - the Mounce version:

So I still don't know which one you use. (That's why I asked.)
Actual the 1958 version of the Greek-English was done as you know by Dr. Alfred Marshall, and is the one being credited to through Samuel Bagster and Sons LTD 1958. Which is what I am using.
And now I know. Thank you. But that's not a Zondervan publication. And I shall readily admit that I hadn't known about the Bagster publication before (not that I seek out British Publishers). I'll have to get one for my collection. Again, thank you.

There are other early Zondervan editions circa 1975 that don't have two English versions, just one, like this: (A black edging is KJV; some green edging prints are RSV.)


And I've always been upfront that there are a few key elements where I disagree with the Gloss that Marshall uses.

Added note: I did a little more research and checked the 1894 Greek-English and it read the same as the 1958 version.
Sorry if I was confusing. The Interlinear part from Marshal would be the same. But Zondervan stopped printing the Marshall, for its publication, and switched to George Ricker Berry by 1981, and now Mounce 2008.

you must be part of the Murder as well. :)
LOL - I see what you did there. I actually smiled for once. (You have my permission to crow about it.)

And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.​
- Luke 9:58 KJV

But considering the three credible death threats I've received, I'm more likely the one to be murdered.

Kind regards,
Rhema
 
Lazarus died again sometime after this.



Those in Matt 27:52 died again at some point.



Obviously Jesus was resurrected.
I hate to sound trite but since when do you know more than the God that inspired the scriptures? Nowhere can I find one line to verify your post and you state these things without scripture to back them/
 
So you're a tesla bot? That's what is making the posts under KingJ ?

Or is it that you cannot help what you write because you're just biological coding?

Remember, I asked who is making the free will choice to write what you post.


Repeating a thing ad nauseam doesn't make it true. But your bot comment seems to imply that God made creation as some cosmic wind up clock that ticks away on its coding, and you're just a cog in that cosmic wheel of creation. This is a presumption if God is the creator of free will.

Does God have free will? And are you not made in the image of God? (Here even you ought to be able to put 2 and 2 together.)


No, KingJ, cosmology is not as simple as addition. It's reductio ad absurdum.


It's not. The term is not tripping me up. The idea that God blew out part of his brain so that he cannot know all that is knowable in order for humans to have the illusion of free will... well, that's absurd. There ARE other views, but you reject any view that is not your own so it's not worth the time to explain.


A "tesla post" ??

Whatever you mean by "tesla bot," NO, it doesn't think anything.

Rhema

You seem to be incapable of responding to simple points and turn a friendly reply into a cringe war.

Reread my post and try again, yes, a tesla bot can do the A-Z of what you argue is free will.
 
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Sorry for the fact dump...

Fact? LOL. ...In any case.

John 13:22 The disciples began looking at one another, at a loss to know of which one He was speaking.
John 13:23 There was reclining on Jesus' bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved.

John 19:26 When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, "Woman, behold, your son!"
John 19:27 Then He *said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" From that hour the disciple took her into his own household.

John 20:1 Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene *came early to the tomb, while it *was still dark, and *saw the stone already taken away from the tomb.
John 20:2 So she *ran and *came to Simon Peter and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and *said to them, "They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him."
John 20:3 So Peter and the other disciple went forth, and they were going to the tomb.
John 20:4 The two were running together; and the other disciple ran ahead faster than Peter and came to the tomb first;

John 21:1 After these things Jesus manifested Himself again to the disciples at the Sea of Tiberias, and He manifested Himself in this way.
John 21:2 Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two others of His disciples were together.
John 21:3 Simon Peter *said to them, "I am going fishing." They *said to him, "We will also come with you." They went out and got into the boat; and that night they caught nothing.
John 21:4 But when the day was now breaking, Jesus stood on the beach; yet the disciples did not know that it was Jesus.
John 21:5 So Jesus *said to them, "Children, you do not have any fish, do you?" They answered Him, "No."
John 21:6 And He said to them, "Cast the net on the right-hand side of the boat and you will find a catch." So they cast, and then they were not able to haul it in because of the great number of fish.
John 21:7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved *said to Peter, "It is the Lord." So when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put his outer garment on (for he was stripped for work), and threw himself into the sea.
John 21:8 But the other disciples came in the little boat, for they were not far from the land, but about one hundred yards away, dragging the net full of fish.

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Matt 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; and James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Matt 10:3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;
Matt 10:4 Simon the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot, the one who betrayed Him.

Mark 3:16 And He appointed the twelve: Simon (to whom He gave the name Peter),
Mark 3:17 and James, the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James (to them He gave the name Boanerges, which means, "Sons of Thunder");
Mark 3:18 and Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Zealot;
Mark 3:19 and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Him.

Luke 6:13 And when day came, He called His disciples to Him and chose twelve of them, whom He also named as apostles:
Luke 6:14 Simon, whom He also named Peter, and Andrew his brother; and James and John; and Philip and Bartholomew;
Luke 6:15 and Matthew and Thomas; James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon who was called the Zealot;
Luke 6:16 Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor.

Acts 1:13 When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James.

In all of these verses John is named an apostle or disciple. Now Jesus did appointment other disciples... for example...

Luke 10:1 Now after this the Lord appointed seventy others (some translations say disciples), and sent them in pairs ahead of Him to every city and place where He Himself was going to come.
Luke 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name."

John 8:31 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;
However many of Jesus's "other" disciples abandoned Him.

John 6:66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.
John 6:67 So Jesus said to the twelve, "You do not want to go away also, do you?"
John 6:68 Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.

It seems Jesus was back to twelve at this point.
 
Nowhere can I find one line to verify your post and you state these things without scripture to back them/

OK fine, if they are still alive where are they? Why isn't this on the news? It seems like this would be the perfect example to prove the Bible.
 
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