Indentured Servant said:

I've been a Christian since 1987. I've studied, taught, and experienced the Word of God.

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Gothedral said:

Hey hi Welcome. I'm also new to this site. I can tell you that I have used the "Ignore" feature, and it is good. I sincerely hope you find what you are looking for, IS. God bless you on your journey.

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Indentured Servant said:

Thanks for the heads-up. Truth is, if I have to "ignore" more than two people, that's my red flag to shake the dust off my feet.

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Gothedral said:

Please excuse my lack of eloquence... I hear what you're typing and posit this: Even three out of an entire site of almost 13 thousand isn't a third out of Heaven, and Gabriel didn't kick himself out of Heaven for it. If that makes comparable sense, and I hope it does. I mean, please stay. You already seem like someone whose golden nuggets of insight will bless others here.

I think of the "Ignore" feature like Acts 16:16-18... No pearls are wasted, and we can continue to share our testimonies as God intends. Christ is The Redeemer, so even the misled and the possessed have a chance.

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Indentured Servant said:

I've been a Christian since 1987. I've studied, taught, and experienced the Word of God.

I do not identify with any denomination, nor do I pigeonhole my belief into categories of doctrines. I personally find titles and labels to be meaningless; thus, I only refer to myself as an indentured servant to identify who I am.

I have translated scripture for many years, both Hebrew and Greek, and have written numerous scripture-based studies, articles, essays, and devotionals.

Lastly, I'm seeking calm, mature discussions on the Word of God. I don't argue or debate Scripture. If I contribute to a topic, then please accept it as such. If I feel as if I'm being set up for debate, or forced into a debate, please understand that I will just leave, as I have no desire to entertain argumentative, or otherwise aggressive, "Christians."

If this forum requires debate above rational discussion and learning, I'll quietly disappear. No loss to anyone...

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KingJ said:

Welcome bud.

Good luck with not debating!!

If you read someone typing nonsense you will not be able to hold yourself back from wanting to correct them. And that is not a bad thing!

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Indentured Servant said:

I've been a Christian since 1987. I've studied, taught, and experienced the Word of God.

I do not identify with any denomination, nor do I pigeonhole my belief into categories of doctrines. I personally find titles and labels to be meaningless; thus, I only refer to myself as an indentured servant to identify who I am.

I have translated scripture for many years, both Hebrew and Greek, and have written numerous scripture-based studies, articles, essays, and devotionals.

Lastly, I'm seeking calm, mature discussions on the Word of God. I don't argue or debate Scripture. If I contribute to a topic, then please accept it as such. If I feel as if I'm being set up for debate, or forced into a debate, please understand that I will just leave, as I have no desire to entertain argumentative, or otherwise aggressive, "Christians."

If this forum requires debate above rational discussion and learning, I'll quietly disappear. No loss to anyone...

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Indentured Servant said:

"It is to one’s honor to avoid strife, but every fool is quick to quarrel." -Proverbs 20:3

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KingJ said:

This is the internet. If you post something you should prepare yourself for interrogation.

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Indentured Servant said:

Internet or not, this is a Christian site, and I don't think it's wrong to expect we treat each other with love and respect.

My issue isn't with people "contending for their faith." Clearly it is. You use a verse that speaks about strife and quarreling

However, I do take exception to people who spend so much time and effort to tell me that I don't understand scripture .... Like you are doing right now.

Strike 1

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Indentured Servant said:

Internet or not, this is a Christian site, and I don't think it's wrong to expect we treat each other with love and respect.

My issue isn't with people "contending for their faith." However, I do take exception to people who spend so much time and effort to tell me that I don't understand scripture .... Like you are doing right now.

Strike 1

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Garee said:

The mystery word faith It must be properly understood as it is written

I would offer we are not to look to the things seen the temporal historical but are to look or walk by faith as Let there be power after the eternal spiritual words of Christ Holy Spirit wand not faithless dying mankind

If believers were contending for their own human faith as a belief or understanding and not the mutual powerful faith of Christ as it is written the eternal not seen , Then it would be all about flesh and blood against flesh the temporal dying seen

Romans 1:12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. (Chrsit in us)

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit (Christ) of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Many teach God does not have or need faith as a labor of His Love .The. . . Let there be power and it was good testimony .

He calls the unredeemed "no faith" not little but none that comes from hearing the words of Christ' faith .

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith. (not a little none)

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Indentured Servant said:

I've been a Christian since 1987. I've studied, taught, and experienced the Word of God.

I do not identify with any denomination, nor do I pigeonhole my belief into categories of doctrines. I personally find titles and labels to be meaningless; thus, I only refer to myself as an indentured servant to identify who I am.

I have translated scripture for many years, both Hebrew and Greek, and have written numerous scripture-based studies, articles, essays, and devotionals.

Lastly, I'm seeking calm, mature discussions on the Word of God. I don't argue or debate Scripture. If I contribute to a topic, then please accept it as such. If I feel as if I'm being set up for debate, or forced into a debate, please understand that I will just leave, as I have no desire to entertain argumentative, or otherwise aggressive, "Christians."

If this forum requires debate above rational discussion and learning, I'll quietly disappear. No loss to anyone...

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Indentured Servant said:

Huh!?

How is this mini bible study pertinent to what I wrote?

I quoted someone's use of the word "faith," and this triggered you to submit a Twilight Zone-ish bible study with no explanation as to why.....

I've recently posted a very spiritually provocative topic with no responses, but everybody seems to prefer to school me or debate the topic of "me" in my own introduction...

In fact, I've noticed the majority of posted topics on this site have had no replies.

I find no depth of wisdom or insight offered by members on this site. No real discussion, no interest in the deeper things of God, and absolutely no godly interactions on biblical topics.

I won't wait for Strike Three... This is a very unusual forum...

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Indentured Servant said:

I've been a Christian since 1987. I've studied, taught, and experienced the Word of God.

I do not identify with any denomination, nor do I pigeonhole my belief into categories of doctrines. I personally find titles and labels to be meaningless; thus, I only refer to myself as an indentured servant to identify who I am.

I have translated scripture for many years, both Hebrew and Greek, and have written numerous scripture-based studies, articles, essays, and devotionals.

Lastly, I'm seeking calm, mature discussions on the Word of God. I don't argue or debate Scripture. If I contribute to a topic, then please accept it as such. If I feel as if I'm being set up for debate, or forced into a debate, please understand that I will just leave, as I have no desire to entertain argumentative, or otherwise aggressive, "Christians."

If this forum requires debate above rational discussion and learning, I'll quietly disappear. No loss to anyone...

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Indentured Servant said:

Thanks for the heads-up. Truth is, if I have to "ignore" more than two people, that's my red flag to shake the dust off my feet.

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Gothedral said:

Please excuse my lack of eloquence... I hear what you're typing and posit this: Even three out of an entire site of almost 13 thousand isn't a third out of Heaven, and Gabriel didn't kick himself out of Heaven for it. If that makes comparable sense, and I hope it does. I mean, please stay. You already seem like someone whose golden nuggets of insight will bless others here.

I think of the "Ignore" feature like Acts 16:16-18... No pearls are wasted, and we can continue to share our testimonies as God intends. Christ is The Redeemer, so even the misled and the possessed have a chance.

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KingJ said:

That proverb does not apply to inevitable debate from 1. Teaching, 2. Contending for the truth, 3. Correction of error, 4. Exposing false teaching and 5. Sharpening one another's swords. Sure we have those here who like to quarrel. But they stand out like a sore thumb and most know to put them on ignore.

Jude 1:3 I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saint.

2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right living.

1 Thess 5:21 But test everything; hold fast what is good.

2 Pet 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies.

1 Cor 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things

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This is the internet. If you post something you should prepare yourself for interrogation. Paul would constantly contend for the truth. He would often engage in open debate at Mars Hill.

Sometimes, most times, we think what we hold to is true and sound. We can all be fooled. So much false teaching around today.

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