Waggles said:

Yes this is the first manifestation of the gift of interpretation.
120 people all speaking a dozen different languages at the same time and yet the crowds outside were able to distinguish clearly their own appropriate language all at the same time.
Yes think about that for a moment.

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They weren't saved yet those who heard in their languages so how can they have the gift of interpretation?

God's Truth said:

Right, some sins can take awhile to quit, but we still have to come to Jesus and repent of our sins, we have to promise to die to the sins of the world and live to please him.

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Yeah, some demons which I thought I had buried more than a decade ago could still resurface and haunt me when things get tough. It's terrifying.

Jonathan_Gale said:

Yeah, some demons which I thought I had buried more than a decade ago could still resurface and haunt me when things get tough. It's terrifying.

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Wow, a decade ago you would think it couldn't come back to try to destroy you. It happened to me before though. We have to be careful. Satan roams around.

God's Truth said:

Wow, a decade ago you would think it couldn't come back to try to destroy you. It happened to me before though. We have to be careful. Satan roams around.

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Like a roaring lion seeking to devour his prey, and he doesn't bother to trouble non-Christians, not even lukewarm Christians, but only those who're really convicted of their sins by the Holy Spirit.

Jonathan_Gale said:

Like a roaring lion seeking to devour his prey, and he doesn't bother to trouble non-Christians, not even lukewarm Christians, but only those who're really convicted of their sins by the Holy Spirit.

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Right! Amen.

God's Truth said:

They weren't saved yet those who heard in their languages so how can they have the gift of interpretation?

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In them same way that both saved and unsaved people can be in a Pentecostal worship meeting and the gift of tongues is operated and then followed by the gift of interpretation.
The 120 people in the upper room received the Holy Spirit and all spoke in tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Being the very first occasion for this new birth of the Christian church God gave the gift of interpretation to the crowds so that they could hear and believe.
And a worthwhile miracle that was as some 3,000 believed and went on to be baptized.

God's Truth said:

If you had the truth you wouldn't speak that falseness about me.

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And yet you give yourself free reign to do that to others here on TJ.

Waggles said:

And yet you give yourself free reign to do that to others here on TJ.

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Aw where? Not like you do and other's here do. I go against false doctrines, you go against people.

Waggles said:

In them same way that both saved and unsaved people can be in a Pentecostal worship meeting and the gift of tongues is operated and then followed by the gift of interpretation.

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You aren't listening? We are talking at Pentecost BEFORE the people were saved. How did they have the gift of interpretation before they were saved? Answer: they were and they didn't.

They heard in their language because TONGUES is about people understanding in earthly languages.

God's Truth said:

Aw where? Not like you do and other's here do. I go against false doctrines, you go against people.

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No - you are being dishonest about yourself.

God's Truth said:

You aren't listening? We are talking at Pentecost BEFORE the people were saved. How did they have the gift of interpretation before they were saved? Answer: they were and they didn't.

They heard in their language because TONGUES is about people understanding in earthly languages.

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No - you are blinded to truth by your opposition to Pentecost.
A crowd of thousands milling about the streets of Jerusalem are not going to hear clearly a dozen different languages spoken by 120 people all at the same time.
People cannot distinguish what is being said if there are a few competing voices speaking the same language at the same time in a gathering.
As for you inference that God did not operate the gift of interpretation that is simply your prejudice.
The events of Pentecost demonstrate the gift of interpretation - a gift that would continue to operate when the church came together in number.

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Here again scripture teaches us the truth that the infilling or baptism of the Holy Spirit is accompanied by the sign [evidence] of speaking in tongues.
Note also that there was no audience of Jews or others for this expression of tongues to hear.

James 3:5 Thus the tongue also is a little member, and boasteth great things. Lo, how much wood is kindled by how small a fire!
6 And the tongue is a fire: the world of iniquity among our members is the tongue, which defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the path of nature, and is set on fire by geenna.
Here James explains to us all why God gives the newborn convert a pure spiritual tongue in which to praise and pray to Him without the corruption of our carnal nature.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I make known to you, that no one speaking by God’s Spirit saith, Jesus is anathema; and no one can say, Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.
1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Waggles said:

No - you are being dishonest about yourself.

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Can you stop yourself?

Waggles said:

No - you are blinded to truth by your opposition to Pentecost.

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No.

Waggles said:

A crowd of thousands milling about the streets of Jerusalem are not going to hear clearly a dozen different languages spoken by 120 people all at the same time.
People cannot distinguish what is being said if there are a few competing voices speaking the same language at the same time in a gathering.

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The people who understood, they understood in their language.

Waggles said:

As for you inference that God did not operate the gift of interpretation that is simply your prejudice.
The events of Pentecost demonstrate the gift of interpretation - a gift that would continue to operate when the church came together in number.

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We are talking about at Pentecost.

Waggles said:

Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Here again scripture teaches us the truth that the infilling or baptism of the Holy Spirit is accompanied by the sign [evidence] of speaking in tongues.
Note also that there was no audience of Jews or others for this expression of tongues to hear.

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That wasn't at Pentecost.

Waggles said:

James 3:5 Thus the tongue also is a little member, and boasteth great things. Lo, how much wood is kindled by how small a fire!
6 And the tongue is a fire: the world of iniquity among our members is the tongue, which defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the path of nature, and is set on fire by geenna.
Here James explains to us all why God gives the newborn convert a pure spiritual tongue in which to praise and pray to Him without the corruption of our carnal nature.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I make known to you, that no one speaking by God’s Spirit saith, Jesus is anathema; and no one can say, Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.
1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries.

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That wasn't at Pentecost.

God's Truth said:

Answer: they were and they didn't.

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Typo: they weren't and they didn't.

God's Truth said:

That wasn't at Pentecost.

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You are dogmatic and blind.
Can you stop yourself?

Waggles said:

You are dogmatic and blind.
Can you stop yourself?

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The people who heard in their own language did not have the gift of interpretation.

God's Truth said:

The people who heard in their own language did not have the gift of interpretation.

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Says who?
Oh you think that because the truth of the giving of the gifts of the Spirit does not fit your narrative and doctrine.

Mark 4:3 Hearken: Lo, the sower went forth to sow:
4 and it came to pass, as he sowed, some seed fell by the way side, and the birds came and devoured it.
5 And other fell on the rocky ground, and where it had not much earth; and straightway it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
6 and when the sun was risen, it was scorched; and because it had no root, withered away.

Waggles said:

Says who?
Oh you think that because the truth of the giving of the gifts of the Spirit does not fit your narrative and doctrine.

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They weren't saved yet because they were hearing the gospel.

God's Truth said:

They weren't saved yet because they were hearing the gospel.

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And this still happens today.

Waggles said:

And this still happens today.

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We have to do more than just heart the gospel, we have to repent of our sins.