PloughBoy said:

according to "Wikipedia" because I cannot count that far. I have no means to hire anyone to count them. and may i ask, where is your information coming from and is it reliable or mere "speculation" for the readers of "TalkJesus"? You may have better source knowledge than "wikipedia" have, And If you don't mind, When you please share that unadulterated truth with us.

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Simplest thing in the World (why would ANYBODY consider "Wikipedia" a valid source for anything??). I know what the Catholic church TEACHES, and I know what the Bible says.

Just because they CALL THEMSELVES "CHRISTIAN", doesn't mean they are. But when you talk with them, it gets pretty clear what they're trusting, and how utterly IGNORANT they are of what the Bible says about anything. Simple as that.

PloughBoy said:

I know you think i am lying! And I am not talking about the Local! I am talking about the "Associated" the collection.

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Dear Brother,
As I said before, that writing a book and reading of your life, would be a testimony to move people that they might be opened to wanting to know Jesus and receiving the Holy Spirit that not only they but others they seek out might be Saved. Also, uplifting to those who are going through hard times in their own lives. What you have experienced is not something that surprises me at all, as far as life, ministry, goes. You remind me so much of the Sister I mentioned in my other post who has since gone home to be with the Lord. She was Black, which I normally won't mention, but it seems to have been an important part of your life, so I figured to add it that you might know that there were many similarities between you both that also includes race. She was saved from committing suicide by a phone call from a Pastor who eventually tried to get in her pants (go figure), went into ministry, and would listen and do what the Holy Spirit told her to! Top it off with ailments that included Lupus, 3 Brain Surgeries whose type had only been done on 15 people in the World, and she was the only one that survived the 5 year mark of survivability (15 years). Because of her faith, she wound up moving the Doctor Team that were responsible for her surgery/care, into starting their own Bible Study, even though not all of them professed any faith, much less a Christian belief!

Doesn't even stop there. There are stories like this one. On her way home one night after closing the church for the day. The Holy Spirit told her to go back to the church. No explanation, just go back to the church. She was like but I'm almost home and the church was at 15 miles away and she had this little rinky dink car that was always in the process of breaking down. Anyway, she says okay, and turns around and goes back to church. Once she gets there, she sees a lady banging on the doors of the church. Goes up to the lady and asks her if she could help her. The lady tells her that she had told God, that this was the last church she was going to knock the doors on, and if nobody answered, she was going to kill herself. My dear Sister opened the church and took the lady in. They had a wonderful talk, and eventually the lady joined the church and they became the best of friends.

So, the book I mention to you as not about a general or even specific history of Christianity/Christendom, but rather your life, your testimony. For as I believed that this Sisters life would have moved many, so I believe yours would as well. I know you're old and might not want to start this different type of endeavor that is so different from your previous work, but I do believe you have much to offer to those who would be moved in the faith that you've lived all these years.

Well, off to take care of some worldly tasks, or I'd probably keep typing in response to that post. Again thank-you for sharing, and know that you are loved by this Brother in Christ. Just tone down on the RCC

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Bob Carabbio said:

Simplest thing in the World (why would ANYBODY consider "Wikipedia" a valid source for anything??). I know what the Catholic church TEACHES, and I know what the Bible says.

Just because they CALL THEMSELVES "CHRISTIAN", doesn't mean they are. But when you talk with them, it gets pretty clear what they're trusting, and how utterly IGNORANT they are of what the Bible says about anything. Simple as that.

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I thank GOD and I love HIM, for He has taught me how to Love Him, because He is My Father before He created the foundations of The Worlds, He lives in me, and I can sense Him in my very being, And the course He has given me, I would not chose any other, and I thank Him, for everything that has happen in my life, and He knows it, Because i would have never know Him, like i know Him. "I trust no man" like He has taught me. But does that mean I don't love mankind the Human race, I love mankind, for I know what the term "The Love of God' means. because My Father which is in Heaven taught me, and How sweet it is.

7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

And I do thank you, for replying to my post.

Shalom

Christ4Ever said:

Dear Brother,
As I said before, that writing a book and reading of your life, would be a testimony to move people that they might be opened to wanting to know Jesus and receiving the Holy Spirit that not only they but others they seek out might be Saved. Also, uplifting to those who are going through hard times in their own lives. What you have experienced is not something that surprises me at all, as far as life, ministry, goes. You remind me so much of the Sister I mentioned in my other post who has since gone home to be with the Lord. She was Black, which I normally won't mention, but it seems to have been an important part of your life, so I figured to add it that you might know that there were many similarities between you both that also includes race. She was saved from committing suicide by a phone call from a Pastor who eventually tried to get in her pants (go figure), went into ministry, and would listen and do what the Holy Spirit told her to! Top it off with ailments that included Lupus, 3 Brain Surgeries whose type had only been done on 15 people in the World, and she was the only one that survived the 5 year mark of survivability (15 years). Because of her faith, she wound up moving the Doctor Team that were responsible for her surgery/care, into starting their own Bible Study, even though not all of them professed any faith, much less a Christian belief!

Doesn't even stop there. There are stories like this one. On her way home one night after closing the church for the day. The Holy Spirit told her to go back to the church. No explanation, just go back to the church. She was like but I'm almost home and the church was at 15 miles away and she had this little rinky dink car that was always in the process of breaking down. Anyway, she says okay, and turns around and goes back to church. Once she gets there, she sees a lady banging on the doors of the church. Goes up to the lady and asks her if she could help her. The lady tells her that she had told God, that this was the last church she was going to knock the doors on, and if nobody answered, she was going to kill herself. My dear Sister opened the church and took the lady in. They had a wonderful talk, and eventually the lady joined the church and they became the best of friends.

So, the book I mention to you as not about a general or even specific history of Christianity/Christendom, but rather your life, your testimony. For as I believed that this Sisters life would have moved many, so I believe yours would as well. I know you're old and might not want to start this different type of endeavor that is so different from your previous work, but I do believe you have much to offer to those who would be moved in the faith that you've lived all these years.

Well, off to take care of some worldly tasks, or I'd probably keep typing in response to that post. Again thank-you for sharing, and know that you are loved by this Brother in Christ. Just tone down on the RCC

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

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For you also know this "Truth": We do not move in The Flesh in such matters.

American Standard Version
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God".

[We must move only, if we feel an unction of "The Spirit of The Living God". We are different and our ways are not The World ways or the ways of "Nominals". We do not move like we feel we should do. That is the way of the flesh and not of "The Holy Ghost".] for we are not "

And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?


In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all God’s people, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

"Others may get away with such things, You Won't"
Example:
'" When the man of God had finished eating and drinking, the prophet who had brought him back saddled his donkey for him. As he went on his way, a lion met him on the road and killed him, and his body was thrown down on the road, with both the donkey and the lion standing beside it.

Thank you, for your reply

Shalom, my brother in Christ Jesus our Lord

PloughBoy said:

"Others may get away with such things, You Won't"
Example:
'" When the man of God had finished eating and drinking, the prophet who had brought him back saddled his donkey for him. As he went on his way, a lion met him on the road and killed him, and his body was thrown down on the road, with both the donkey and the lion standing beside it.

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taken from 1Kings 13

1And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the LORD unto Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense. 2And he cried against the altar in the word of the LORD, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the LORD; Behold, a child shall be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee. 3And he gave a sign the same day, saying, This is the sign which the LORD hath spoken; Behold, the altar shall be rent, and the ashes that are upon it shall be poured out. 4And it came to pass, when king Jeroboam heard the saying of the man of God, which had cried against the altar in Bethel, that he put forth his hand from the altar, saying, Lay hold on him. And his hand, which he put forth against him, dried up, so that he could not pull it in again to him. 5The altar also was rent, and the ashes poured out from the altar, according to the sign which the man of God had given by the word of the LORD. 6And the king answered and said unto the man of God, Intreat now the face of the LORD thy God, and pray for me, that my hand may be restored me again. And the man of God besought the LORD, and the king's hand was restored him again, and became as it was before. 7And the king said unto the man of God, Come home with me, and refresh thyself, and I will give thee a reward. 8And the man of God said unto the king, If thou wilt give me half thine house, I will not go in with thee, neither will I eat bread nor drink water in this place: 9For so was it charged me by the word of the LORD, saying, Eat no bread, nor drink water, nor turn again by the same way that thou camest. 10So he went another way, and returned not by the way that he came to Bethel.

11Now there dwelt an old prophet in Bethel; and his sons came and told him all the works that the man of God had done that day in Bethel: the words which he had spoken unto the king, them they told also to their father. 12And their father said unto them, What way went he? For his sons had seen what way the man of God went, which came from Judah. 13And he said unto his sons, Saddle me the ass. So they saddled him the ass: and he rode thereon, 14And went after the man of God, and found him sitting under an oak: and he said unto him, Art thou the man of God that camest from Judah? And he said, I am. 15Then he said unto him, Come home with me, and eat bread. 16And he said, I may not return with thee, nor go in with thee: neither will I eat bread nor drink water with thee in this place: 17For it was said to me by the word of the LORD, Thou shalt eat no bread nor drink water there, nor turn again to go by the way that thou camest. 18He said unto him, I am a prophet also as thou art; and an angel spake unto me by the word of the LORD, saying, Bring him back with thee into thine house, that he may eat bread and drink water. But he lied unto him. 19So he went back with him, and did eat bread in his house, and drank water.

20And it came to pass, as they sat at the table, that the word of the LORD came unto the prophet that brought him back: 21And he cried unto the man of God that came from Judah, saying, Thus saith the LORD, Forasmuch as thou hast disobeyed the mouth of the LORD, and hast not kept the commandment which the LORD thy God commanded thee, 22But camest back, and hast eaten bread and drunk water in the place, of the which the LORD did say to thee, Eat no bread, and drink no water; thy carcase shall not come unto the sepulchre of thy fathers. 23And it came to pass, after he had eaten bread, and after he had drunk, that he saddled for him the ass, to wit, for the prophet whom he had brought back. 24And when he was gone, a lion met him by the way, and slew him: and his carcase was cast in the way, and the ass stood by it, the lion also stood by the carcase. 25And, behold, men passed by, and saw the carcase cast in the way, and the lion standing by the carcase: and they came and told it in the city where the old prophet dwelt.

26And when the prophet that brought him back from the way heard thereof, he said, It is the man of God, who was disobedient unto the word of the LORD: therefore the LORD hath delivered him unto the lion, which hath torn him, and slain him, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake unto him. 27And he spake to his sons, saying, Saddle me the ass. And they saddled him. 28And he went and found his carcase cast in the way, and the ass and the lion standing by the carcase: the lion had not eaten the carcase, nor torn the ass. 29And the prophet took up the carcase of the man of God, and laid it upon the ass, and brought it back: and the old prophet came to the city, to mourn and to bury him. 30And he laid his carcase in his own grave; and they mourned over him, saying, Alas, my brother! 31And it came to pass, after he had buried him, that he spake to his sons, saying, When I am dead, then bury me in the sepulchre wherein the man of God is buried; lay my bones beside his bones: 32For the saying which he cried by the word of the LORD against the altar in Bethel, and against all the houses of the high places which are in the cities of Samaria, shall surely come to pass.

33After this thing Jeroboam returned not from his evil way, but made again of the lowest of the people priests of the high places: whosoever would, he consecrated him, and he became one of the priests of the high places. 34And this thing became sin unto the house of Jeroboam, even to cut it off, and to destroy it from off the face of the earth.

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