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No where in the bible does it say what happens to that treasure not one place, so we can speculate all we want but its not in scripture. But that was a nice birth present certainly!!
Jesus was born in a stable (his parents knew the approximate time of his birth so they could have reserved a place, God could have made sure he had a room) but it was a stable, as God wanted.
2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor.
Matthew 8:20
And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”
Mark 6:8
He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff—no bread, no bag, no money in
Luke 18:28-30 Peter being convicted of this states, "See, we have left all and followed You." Peter's perception was that they had no riches in money or property since he says they left it all behind. So why do some say they were wealth!
2 Cor. 6:9-10: "as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
Acts 3:6: Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk." This does not mean they had none on them at the time; they had NO money. These are words out of their own mouths it can not get any easier then this to understand they had no earthly wealth!!
1words right out of their own mouth describing the lifestyle, not one of wealth at all yet they were wealthy in spirit!!!
Cor. 4:11-12: "To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless. And we labor, working with our own hands.
Phil. 3:7-1:1" But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead." Paul a Pharisee was quite rich yet he gave it up for a life to follow Christ
He was buried in another man's tomb, a rich mans. If he was rich or his family, they would have buried him in his own family tomb. But this again proves that He had no money for this. Neither did his family nor the apostles have the money to by such a burial, it was borrowed, actually donated to be exact. After all it would not be permanent. Jesus in his ministry had borrowed many things. A manger, He borrowed boats, He borrowed a colt; He borrowed a house for Passover and He was buried in a borrowed tomb.
Nowhere can you find a passage in the New Testament where Jesus Christ or His Apostles disciple believers to get money or be rich? Jesus Christ taught the opposite, He told the rich man to sell all that he had and give to the poor, come follow me and you will have treasure in Heaven! (Luke 18:22; 12:33-34)
Jesus actually commands us not to store up treasure here on earth,
Matthew 6:19
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
So if Jesus had worldly treasures here on earth , would he not be contradicting himself??
My Lord Jesus warns all throughout the bible that worldly riches are a stumbling block for men to enter heaven, so why would he become worldly rich if all he does is warn against it, (although he could handle)
Matthew 19:24
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
Luke 6:24
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.
the parable about the man with big barns, if Jesus wanted us to be worldly rich why did he paint such a bleak ending for this man, and all other rich people in the bible
The Parable of the Rich Fool
13Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” 14But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?” 15And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” 16And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, 17and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ 18And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ 20But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ 21So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”
Jesus had no money to pay his taxes ( I say with respect as Jesus chose not to have any money) so he sent one to fetch the money by a miracle.
Matthew 17
However, not to give offense to them, go to the sea and cast a hook and take the first fish that comes up, and when you open its mouth you will find a shekel.g Take that and give it to them for me and for yourself.”
So in conclusion, we have Peter and Paul saying in their own words they have nothing, they gave it up for Jesus, if Jesus wants us to be all rich why did he have the apostles give up everything?? the apostles or Jesus family could not even afford to buy a proper burial tomb for Jesus, Jesus is God and could have had anything he wanted for himself or his followers and he chose to lead by example a humble life, without any worldly possessions, as when they hung him on the cross he had no worldly possessions other than the clothes on his back.
No where in the bible does it say what happens to that treasure not one place, so we can speculate all we want but its not in scripture. But that was a nice birth present certainly!!
Jesus was born in a stable (his parents knew the approximate time of his birth so they could have reserved a place, God could have made sure he had a room) but it was a stable, as God wanted.
2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor.
Matthew 8:20
And Jesus said to him, “Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”
Mark 6:8
He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff—no bread, no bag, no money in
Luke 18:28-30 Peter being convicted of this states, "See, we have left all and followed You." Peter's perception was that they had no riches in money or property since he says they left it all behind. So why do some say they were wealth!
2 Cor. 6:9-10: "as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.
Acts 3:6: Then Peter said, "Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk." This does not mean they had none on them at the time; they had NO money. These are words out of their own mouths it can not get any easier then this to understand they had no earthly wealth!!
1words right out of their own mouth describing the lifestyle, not one of wealth at all yet they were wealthy in spirit!!!
Cor. 4:11-12: "To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless. And we labor, working with our own hands.
Phil. 3:7-1:1" But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead." Paul a Pharisee was quite rich yet he gave it up for a life to follow Christ
He was buried in another man's tomb, a rich mans. If he was rich or his family, they would have buried him in his own family tomb. But this again proves that He had no money for this. Neither did his family nor the apostles have the money to by such a burial, it was borrowed, actually donated to be exact. After all it would not be permanent. Jesus in his ministry had borrowed many things. A manger, He borrowed boats, He borrowed a colt; He borrowed a house for Passover and He was buried in a borrowed tomb.
Nowhere can you find a passage in the New Testament where Jesus Christ or His Apostles disciple believers to get money or be rich? Jesus Christ taught the opposite, He told the rich man to sell all that he had and give to the poor, come follow me and you will have treasure in Heaven! (Luke 18:22; 12:33-34)
Jesus actually commands us not to store up treasure here on earth,
Matthew 6:19
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
So if Jesus had worldly treasures here on earth , would he not be contradicting himself??
My Lord Jesus warns all throughout the bible that worldly riches are a stumbling block for men to enter heaven, so why would he become worldly rich if all he does is warn against it, (although he could handle)
Matthew 19:24
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
Luke 6:24
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.
the parable about the man with big barns, if Jesus wanted us to be worldly rich why did he paint such a bleak ending for this man, and all other rich people in the bible
The Parable of the Rich Fool
13Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” 14But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?” 15And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” 16And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, 17and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ 18And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ 20But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ 21So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”
Jesus had no money to pay his taxes ( I say with respect as Jesus chose not to have any money) so he sent one to fetch the money by a miracle.
Matthew 17
However, not to give offense to them, go to the sea and cast a hook and take the first fish that comes up, and when you open its mouth you will find a shekel.g Take that and give it to them for me and for yourself.”
So in conclusion, we have Peter and Paul saying in their own words they have nothing, they gave it up for Jesus, if Jesus wants us to be all rich why did he have the apostles give up everything?? the apostles or Jesus family could not even afford to buy a proper burial tomb for Jesus, Jesus is God and could have had anything he wanted for himself or his followers and he chose to lead by example a humble life, without any worldly possessions, as when they hung him on the cross he had no worldly possessions other than the clothes on his back.
