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The Trouble With Us

Coconut

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The Trouble With Us

AMAZING GRACE, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Sure we talk about grace, we sing about grace, but really in our heart of hearts, we think we`ve been pretty decent living people, compared to some that is. Most of us grew up in adverage homes, many come from christian homes. We may have partied a bit in our younger days, even were immoral at times, but all in all, we werent that bad. At some point, God calls our name, He draws us to Himself by His spirit, and tells us He has chosen us to serve Him. Shall I serve Him? Well thats not that difficult of a decision to make, I wont have to give up much, drinking, smoking, cussing, all those bad things that make a man look...well bad, and we all have a secret yearning for people to like us, and say nicer things about us.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

First thing we do is find a church, and its not long before we learn how to fit in... always be sure to show up for Sunday services, always wear a smile, learn the language... God bless you, or how are you, always sounds good, even if you mean neither... learn to worship out loud (you quickly learn this really makes you look even more spiritual) and appear to be raptly attentive while the sermons being preached, even if its stale or boring. The song service is everybodys favorite part, singing those songs of zion makes us feel really good, a real emotional boost if you know what I mean, and if they should happen to sing Amazing Grace, even if we dont think its that amazing that God would find us lovable, we will probably have the grace to get a little misty eyed.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

You reading this, lets get something settled. You are no good. Yes you read that right.
And yes that means you. But you say I`m a pastor, a preacher of the gospel, a theology student, a missionary, a youth leader. You are no good. Oh I know it goads a little to read that. Since you got 'saved' you have worked really hard at being a good person, you pretty much did everything right, with only a slip here and there, nothing really bad, theres some people you know way worse than you. No they arnt worse than you, you are as bad as it gets. How do I know that? God said so. Read Rom 3:10 or Mar 10:18 if you need proof.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Now lets get to the heart of this trouble. The prophet says in Jeremiah,
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
No, hes not just talking about the wicked person down the street, hes talking about your heart and my heart. We have not just wicked hearts, but desperately wicked. So desperate in fact, that it takes an act of God, or namely Gods grace, to even
allow our hearts to taste His goodness. You may say, well I am not a murderer, or a sexually immoral person, i`m not that wicked. Yes you are. Your heart is quite capable of murder, and if you think thats not true, let someone dare commit some evil agianst you or those you love. A little slander is all it takes to bring the carnal nature out in most of us. You might say, that would be righteous indignation. Did you not hear God say you dont have any righteousness? Not even a drop of it. The only righteousness you or I can claim is Gods alone. The only difference between you and I, and the murderer, the drunkard, the sexually immoral, the thief, the hate filled, and ignorant sinner, is grace. Not a spec of that grace comes from within you, or because of you, but in spite of how unworthy you and I are.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Gods grace is always, for all of us, unmerited. You and I were sinners, are sinners, would always be sinners, and every last one of us is worthy of the death penalty, but God in his great mercy, did something about that.
Do you think because YOU made a choice to accept Gods grace, it somehow makes you a little better than anyone else in the eyes of God? You are not better, your guilt is simply covered in blood if you`ve accepted Christs atonement.
It was God that unlocked that prison door for us, and you and I dont dare forget it. God says go tell them the good news, that I come to set whosover will, free. Do we run to tell them the good news? Or do we decide it would be better to tell them how great a sinner they are, and that we want nothing to do with them, unless they become as righteous as we now are? I am not worthy to tell a man hes a great sinner, I will leave that to the good preachers, but I can tell him I know someone who has great grace, and who wants to set him free. When our hearts truly being to grasp what undeserving grace has been offered to us, we will not find it so hard to share this grace with others, but our refrain will ever be, except for the grace of God there go I...

When Jesus stood up to read, the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written, "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to tell the good news to the poor. He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners and recovery of sight to the blind, to set oppressed people free, and to announce the year of the Lord's favor."

Heb 4:16 So let us keep on coming with boldness to the throne of grace, so that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
 
Amen!

Phl 2:12-13 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
 
Excelent post Coconut, and so so true, spoke directly to me, and challenges me greatly.

Proverbs 20:9

Who can say " i have kept my heart pure; I am clean without sin "?
 
Amen!!
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
 
"All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags. We all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." (Is 64:6-7)


SLE
 
This is amazing! It's very true, I admit I sometimes think I'm better than others, this is a real eye opener,

Even if we KNOW that others are sinful, we shouldn't cast them out, we should hug them and love them, we could be their way back to God!

I had some very dark phases in my life but praise God and thanks to some friends it got alot better, I was where they are, God knows it's hard!

We should spread the good news everywhere to everyone, pray for them, we should take care of God's sheep!
 
The Trouble With Us

AMAZING GRACE, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Sure we talk about grace, we sing about grace, but really in our heart of hearts, we think we`ve been pretty decent living people, compared to some that is. Most of us grew up in adverage homes, many come from christian homes. We may have partied a bit in our younger days, even were immoral at times, but all in all, we werent that bad. At some point, God calls our name, He draws us to Himself by His spirit, and tells us He has chosen us to serve Him. Shall I serve Him? Well thats not that difficult of a decision to make, I wont have to give up much, drinking, smoking, cussing, all those bad things that make a man look...well bad, and we all have a secret yearning for people to like us, and say nicer things about us.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

First thing we do is find a church, and its not long before we learn how to fit in... always be sure to show up for Sunday services, always wear a smile, learn the language... God bless you, or how are you, always sounds good, even if you mean neither... learn to worship out loud (you quickly learn this really makes you look even more spiritual) and appear to be raptly attentive while the sermons being preached, even if its stale or boring. The song service is everybodys favorite part, singing those songs of zion makes us feel really good, a real emotional boost if you know what I mean, and if they should happen to sing Amazing Grace, even if we dont think its that amazing that God would find us lovable, we will probably have the grace to get a little misty eyed.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

You reading this, lets get something settled. You are no good. Yes you read that right.
And yes that means you. But you say I`m a pastor, a preacher of the gospel, a theology student, a missionary, a youth leader. You are no good. Oh I know it goads a little to read that. Since you got 'saved' you have worked really hard at being a good person, you pretty much did everything right, with only a slip here and there, nothing really bad, theres some people you know way worse than you. No they arnt worse than you, you are as bad as it gets. How do I know that? God said so. Read Rom 3:10 or Mar 10:18 if you need proof.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Now lets get to the heart of this trouble. The prophet says in Jeremiah,
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
No, hes not just talking about the wicked person down the street, hes talking about your heart and my heart. We have not just wicked hearts, but desperately wicked. So desperate in fact, that it takes an act of God, or namely Gods grace, to even
allow our hearts to taste His goodness. You may say, well I am not a murderer, or a sexually immoral person, i`m not that wicked. Yes you are. Your heart is quite capable of murder, and if you think thats not true, let someone dare commit some evil agianst you or those you love. A little slander is all it takes to bring the carnal nature out in most of us. You might say, that would be righteous indignation. Did you not hear God say you dont have any righteousness? Not even a drop of it. The only righteousness you or I can claim is Gods alone. The only difference between you and I, and the murderer, the drunkard, the sexually immoral, the thief, the hate filled, and ignorant sinner, is grace. Not a spec of that grace comes from within you, or because of you, but in spite of how unworthy you and I are.

The trouble with us is we think we are pretty good people.

Gods grace is always, for all of us, unmerited. You and I were sinners, are sinners, would always be sinners, and every last one of us is worthy of the death penalty, but God in his great mercy, did something about that.
Do you think because YOU made a choice to accept Gods grace, it somehow makes you a little better than anyone else in the eyes of God? You are not better, your guilt is simply covered in blood if you`ve accepted Christs atonement.
It was God that unlocked that prison door for us, and you and I dont dare forget it. God says go tell them the good news, that I come to set whosover will, free. Do we run to tell them the good news? Or do we decide it would be better to tell them how great a sinner they are, and that we want nothing to do with them, unless they become as righteous as we now are? I am not worthy to tell a man hes a great sinner, I will leave that to the good preachers, but I can tell him I know someone who has great grace, and who wants to set him free. When our hearts truly being to grasp what undeserving grace has been offered to us, we will not find it so hard to share this grace with others, but our refrain will ever be, except for the grace of God there go I...

When Jesus stood up to read, the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written, "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to tell the good news to the poor. He has sent me to announce release to the prisoners and recovery of sight to the blind, to set oppressed people free, and to announce the year of the Lord's favor."

Heb 4:16 So let us keep on coming with boldness to the throne of grace, so that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Well the trouble with me is I focus to much on the sin and not enough on the redeeming grace of God. In other words, the reverse of the above.
 
Can one take an honest look in the mirror and really believe that?

No, but as Prophet says "The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it? I the LORD search the heart..." [Jer 17:9]


"Honesty is as rare as a man without self-pity." - author unknown

I know those who will say they used to be a wretch, but now they think they are pretty good deserving people...

I say I will always be a wretch in need of Gods grace as long as I live in this flesh.


Job 42:5 I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you; therefore I despise myself, and repent in dust and ashes."

Amazing grace is still amazing to me!
 
Amazing grace is still amazing to me!

The grace of God that we have through Jesus Christ is humbling, and amazing, and I am very thankful to have it. But sometimes I wonder whether its selfish to have it, especially considering how sinful I am - and how rebellious towards God sometimes.
 
I agree with Coconut, and I know what this post means, even if we feel like sinners, there are those moments if you are watching Dr. Phil for example and you see how families are broken or something and you thank God you're alot different than those other sinners who don't know God.

The whole point of the post is not to judge others, and help them, so that we'd be truly saved by actions, not by words.
 
But sometimes I wonder whether its selfish to have it, especially considering how sinful I am.]

"Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms." (1 Pet 4:10 NIV).

Receiving God's grace is not wrong. Attempting to hoard it is wrong. Our role is to pass it on to others so He can send more down the pipeline to us. Remember the words of St. Francis of Assisi: "For it is in giving that we receive; it is in dying (to self) that we are born to eternal life."

SLE
 
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