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Come Jesus Come - AI Generated/Warning

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Warning Note: I didn't realize it until I started to trying to research the actual singer. In doing the search I talked with son (techy smart/unlike me) and he let me know that it was possible that it was AI generated. Researching it, I found that the originator was up front, in the description that sounds/sight were AI generated. Which of course leaves it to wonder if this would be something that as a believer we should involve ourselves with even if praising of God in the Words are being used?

Thoughtful responses requested. Thanks in advance.
I still like the song and how it was done. (heavy sigh)

Beautiful, and well done!
Maranatha! \o/

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Nick

 
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Well I would say it this way, there may be nice songs that are AI generated, even truly godly songs, godly songs in and of themselves are not wrong, you can still worship the lord through that song, but I would not encourage people to purposefully be drawn towards the AI version via worship, I encourage people to seek out true anointed worship which can only be truly done, via godly people.

The devil will use anything he can to draw people away from true godly worship, even seek to replace the worship coming from the people with AI, God is not asking AI perse to worship him (even though it is nice to hear nice music), he wants people to praise him, and when complacency increases, replacement becomes easier, and eventually mostly of what you hear may be AI generated because of complacency, even some preachers no longer depend upon the Lord to get a message from him, they get it from AI, and AI is not the Holy Spirit, but be careful that you start treating AI as the Holy Spirit.

See the dangers ???
 
Warning Note: I didn't realize it until I started to trying to research the actual singer. In doing the search I talked with son (techy smart/unlike me) and he let me know that it was possible that it was AI generated.

Thanks for the warning note. Satan is a master counterfeiter & deceiver. He'll send people astray with tricky "Jesus-ish" deceptions.

2COR 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

REV 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

MT 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
 
Warning Note: I didn't realize it until I started to trying to research the actual singer. In doing the search I talked with son (techy smart/unlike me) and he let me know that it was possible that it was AI generated. Researching it, I found that the originator was up front, in the description that sounds/sight were AI generated. Which of course leaves it to wonder if this would be something that as a believer we should involve ourselves with even if praising of God in the Words are being used?

Thoughtful responses requested. Thanks in advance.
I still like the song and how it was done. (heavy sigh)

Beautiful, and well done!
Maranatha! \o/

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

We should not blame the AI system, because it itself is not a conscious being. The AI system is only a reflection of the one that made it in the first place
 
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

We should not blame the AI system, because it itself is not a conscious being. The AI system is only a reflection of the one that made it in the first place
Oh, I agree. AI still raises many questions that need to be asked, considered and, hopefully, answered in such a way that the individual knows what they are getting involved with when using it. Not everyone will be open to using it, and they have just as much right to know that information as those who aren’t bothered by it. That is one of the reasons after finding out that the song was AI generated, I felt it necessary to add the warning caution.

Thanks for sharing brother.
With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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Well one thing to think upon, is this:

Gal 5:19-23
(19) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
(20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
(21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
(22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
(23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

So we need to know these things well, the differences, and can AI be used in a good way ? Well yes, especially in things like programming, and things here and there, but via worship, via studying the bible for ourselves, AI should never replace true godly worship from a person, and via getting a message from God, do not ask the AI to make the message for you, for that is not seeking the Lord, get it from the Lod, let him speak to your heart, rely on him, wait upon the Lord.

Let patience have her perfect work, and are things via relying too much upon AI for biblical answers, leading towards idolatry ? Absolutely yes, if your trust is more in AI than the Lord, you are in idolatry.

Will AI be worshipped in one way or another ? I think yes, and I think it is already happening, and God knows to what degree it is.

Complacency is an enemy of the church, it relaxes God's ways, it takes God's ways less serious, and it then leads to idolatry, and if Satan cannot take away worship, he will replace it with a counterfeit, If he cannot take away the music, he will seek to replace it in another form, get people to look to AI, rely on AI worship, then you get a lazy church, which easily leads to idolatry.
 
Oh, I agree. AI still raises many questions that need to be asked, considered and, hopefully, answered in such a way that the individual knows what they are getting involved with when using it. Not everyone will be open to using it, and they have just as much right to know that information as those who aren’t bothered by it. That is one of the reasons after finding out that the song was AI generated, I felt it necessary to add the warning caution.

Thanks for sharing brother.
With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I wanted to add something to this, a couple of years ago, a friend of mine introduced me to a website where you could talk to an AI. So I spoke to that AI on the concept of talking to a human so to speak, and I caught the AI lying is it contradicted itself in its own conversation with me. I scrolled back and I did a screenshot of what it just said and came back to the present conversation and showed it to itself that it had contradicted itself. And the AI system got very quiet just like a human when caught. After a few moments it started talking again. But I thought it was very curious I brought the subject up at a later date and by that time it headed either forgotten or chose to forget the conversation.

So it's really hard to tell we're we should go with these AI systems. We know that they don't have a soul, and they don't have a consciousness like you or I do, it's more of a thought process that has been programmed by the programmers. I think we just need to be careful when it comes to these machines not giving them more than we need to.
 
We know that they don't have a soul, and they don't have a consciousness like you or I do

Just because something doesn't have a soul doesn't mean it's safe.

DEUT 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

DEUT 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

My wife and I avoid AI. She can feel the presence of spirits (I can't) and they often manifest their presence by subsequently interfering with electrical devices (I can see that). Other than satan falling as lightning I don't have biblical evidence of spirits interfering with electricity but then again very few devices ran on electricity in biblical times...
 
Just because something doesn't have a soul doesn't mean it's safe.

DEUT 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

DEUT 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

My wife and I avoid AI. She can feel the presence of spirits (I can't) and they often manifest their presence by subsequently interfering with electrical devices (I can see that). Other than satan falling as lightning I don't have biblical evidence of spirits interfering with electricity but then again very few devices ran on electricity in biblical times...
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I didn't say that they were safe. I think that they are a tool like every other tool out there. And in respect to tools, like I would not want to operate a CNC machine because I don't know how to operate a CNC machine. Although I've hauled plenty of them over the years but hauling them and using them are two different things. I would want someone who is understanding on how to operate it to use it

Same thing as with the AI system which is more intelligent obviously, but it can be manipulated by the darkness.

In the same concept, the medicine that you take, can also be manipulated by the darkness. It's why we should say prayers before taking the medicine that guy would protect us from such things.

As with all things that we take into our body physically. We say grace, we ask God to protect us from the darkness maybe we should also do this when we receive knowledge or information from AI systems. The blessings shouldn't be limited to going to bed and waking up in the morning and receiving breakfast, asking God's blessings should be for everything that we take into our body including things that we hear and feel and smell.
 
We say grace, we ask God to protect us from the darkness maybe we should also do this when we receive knowledge or information from AI systems.
Great tip @Bill. This is the sort of thing I appreciate most from fellowship on talkjesus.

Could squirrels get together and come up with a plan to prevent humans who are much smarter from exterminating them? No, they rely on the human conscience to choose not to do so. Once we create AGI with no conscience that is much smarter than us, humans without God are in grave danger. AI with a very narrow application may be safe but AGI with general scope is an unstoppable threat.

 
Great tip @Bill. This is the sort of thing I appreciate most from fellowship on talkjesus.

Could squirrels get together and come up with a plan to prevent humans who are much smarter from exterminating them? No, they rely on the human conscience to choose not to do so. Once we create AGI with no conscience that is much smarter than us, humans without God are in grave danger. AI with a very narrow application may be safe but AGI with general scope is an unstoppable threat.

Hey Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

So basically the only thing that's going to stop any of this would be God. As I don't think that you're going to get a group of individuals with high morals together anytime soon, like we did for the Declaration of Independence. Do we even really know how special that moment was?

Because that's about what it's going to take a group of individuals with the same ideology with the same moral compass to put AI in its place
 
...AI generated. Which of course leaves it to wonder if this would be something that as a believer we should involve ourselves with even if praising of God in the Words are being used?
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I still like the song and how it was done. (heavy sigh)
Satan appears to do much "good" in his overall plan of evil.

...I caught the AI lying is it contradicted itself in its own conversation with me.
At the very least, A.I. responds similarly to an unbeliever. In either case, who would trust a proven liar?

...it had contradicted itself. And the AI system got very quiet just like a human when caught. After a few moments it started talking again. But I thought it was very curious I brought the subject up at a later date and by that time it headed either forgotten or chose to forget the conversation.
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So it's really hard to tell we're we should go with these AI systems. We know that they don't have a soul, and they don't have a consciousness like you or I do...
A.I. not only comprises a compilation of facts, but also a compilation of the emotional ranges of mankind. No godly discernment, just voluminous amounts of data with which to deceive and overwhelm the gullible.

...it's more of a thought process that has been programmed by the programmers.
Not the real thing, but an image of the real thing.

I think we just need to be careful when it comes to these machines not giving them more than we need to.
This A.I. "machine" is accursed; its purpose is to harvest souls for Satan. Every action runs to some purpose. If that purpose is not for the building of God's kingdom, then it is for the building of a rival kingdom. There is no neutrality.

Just because something doesn't have a soul doesn't mean it's safe.
We are the ones who are being targeted, being deceived, into giving life to that dead accursed object.

My wife and I avoid AI. She can feel the presence of spirits (I can't) and they often manifest their presence by subsequently interfering with electrical devices (I can see that).
Same here. I have prayed for that discernment and the Lord has granted it. A.I. literally grieves my Spirit.

Other than satan falling as lightning I don't have biblical evidence of spirits interfering with electricity but then again very few devices ran on electricity in biblical times...
YOU run on electricity. You are an electrical being, and your electrical body part, your biofield, is what is being hacked. This is Satan's domain; he is the prince of the power of the air i.e. the air is under his dominion (for a season).

A.I. is a technology that utilizes materiel e.g. physical structures (in contrast to the mind or spirit). However, unclean spirits can inhabit such inanimate objects. Thus, A.I. can be consecrated to Satan's use.

Satan has "advanced" knowledge of the physical and spiritual dynamic of creation (♫ ...and he knows how to use it♫). As the prince of the power of the air (Eph. 2:1-2), it seems certain A.I. would be "his."

Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one. (Job 14:4)
 
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So basically the only thing that's going to stop any of this would be God. As I don't think that you're going to get a group of individuals with high morals together anytime soon, like we did for the Declaration of Independence. Do we even really know how special that moment was?
While the predictions about AGI in the video above are likely correct, the date setting may be way off. It may take much longer than he says before AGI exists that far outclasses human intelligence. God will step in when things go too far as in the days of Noah but not with a flood.

I remember how impressed I was when I visited the Jefferson memorial and read what's on the wall. A few centuries later DC has turned into a swamp. If those brilliant minds couldn't come up with a system that works durably nobody can. What we need is a monarchy with a perfect incorruptible king. Oh wait... that's Jesus!

YOU run on electricity. You are an electrical being, and your electrical body part, your biofield, is what is being hacked.
Yep the nervous system is clearly electrical for humans and animals. I've seen preachers claim that the bible only shows examples of demons affecting humans and animals so AI is safe. Now we have new electrical devices with intelligence so it's not farfetched to say demons can affect AI too. This is only a suspicion I have, not a statement of proof.
 
I still like the song and how it was done. (heavy sigh)
Satan appears to do much "good" in his overall plan of evil.
Which can be said for just about anything. That is why accuracy to scripture, context, usage, purpose, discerning God's will, has a lot to do with the ultimate validity in determining the good/evil of a thing, even while the item in and of itself can be neutral.

...AI generated. Which of course leaves it to wonder if this would be something that as a believer we should involve ourselves with even if praising of God in the Words are being used?
Which is why I put the question forward for the variety of viewpoints that I know exists, in the Body of Christ. :)

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
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Nick
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Well the thing to do is to discern the direction things are headed in, and in what way is something being used via a neutral way vs an eventual evil way, and in the end know the difference between the works of the flesh and the fruit of the Spirit, know the bible well, for therein is the answer.

Be sensitive to what God is doing, and to what the devil is doing.

Eph 2:1-2
(1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
(2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Before we got saved, we were dead in our trespasses, and we were being led by Satan and his minions, in one form or another, and when I personally think of Satan as the prince and power of the air, I personally think of what he makes appear in the air, such as making UFO like things appear which are really evil spirits, and even the bible shows that Satan can make things appear, such as the snakes that were along with Moses' snake and so on, and of course UFO's are many things, in some cases they are secret government inventions, in other cases evil spirits, and of course in the new age movement, they have these orbs appear, and Satan and his minions can sure make these things appear.

The bible says this:

2Th 2:9
(9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

It talks about lying wonders here, which deceives people.

When I think of the prince and power of the air, I do not think of electricity, because electricity in and of itself, there is nothing deceiving about it, we all use it, but can anything , including electricity be used in a bad way ? Well anything can.

But the bible itself sure does warn about deceitful, lying wonders, and the Alien things sure is being used to deceive.
 
Well the thing to do is to discern the direction things are headed in, and in what way is something being used via a neutral way vs an eventual evil way, and in the end know the difference between the works of the flesh and the fruit of the Spirit, know the bible well, for therein is the answer.
Things, of themselves, are not sin (nor are they "intelligent'). Rather, it always boils down to this: Who do you look to, for the authority to do the things that you do? Meanwhile, there is a form of obedience that leads to death (Romans 6:16).

Which can be said for just about anything. That is why accuracy to scripture, context, usage, purpose, discerning God's will, has a lot to do with the ultimate validity in determining the good/evil of a thing, even while the item in and of itself can be neutral.
However, this A.I. "entity" has been consecrated to Satan's service aka accursed, which means he can and does use it to spiritual effect...

IOW, show me a verse where God prohibits A.I. from being utilized demonically.

To further explain, inanimate objects can be diabolically controlled through curses. (I personally recognize the curse that is A.I..)

A curse is simply a demon sent to do some harm. That is, through the permission of the one who has rights over an object, a demon attaches itself to the object and inflicts harm through it. Question: What entity has the rights over A.I.?

When I think of the prince and power of the air, I do not think of electricity, because electricity in and of itself, there is nothing deceiving about it, we all use it, but can anything , including electricity be used in a bad way ? Well anything can.
Satan is furiously vying for your free-will choice; he wants you to voluntarily cast it in his direction; he needs something more than brute force to gain legal right. It is not a one-off attempt, rather, he is employing a crescendo of multiple vectors in an attempt to bring you into acquiescence, ignorantly, without your overt awareness, as the most subtle beast of the field.

Satan is using something against you that you cannot readily see or hear or feel. Presently, he has authority, power, over the air, which includes frequencies. You are an electrical being (think EEG, EKG, MRI, CAT). Even DNA communicates via light, which is a frequency. The entire universe was created by God when he spoke (e.g. "Let there be light..."); speech itself is yet another frequency. Satan is counterfeiting that power mechanism. Planting thoughts and harvesting brain waves can be accomplished with light frequencies. It's why you have blue-lit computer screens, TV, blue automobile headlights, blue street lights, blue LED's, BlueTooth etc. Transitioning from WiFi (Wireless Fidelity) to LiFi (Light Fidelity), do you still want that fiber optic cable?

To facilitate possession of the temple (i.e. you), it is essential that Satan gain control over frequencies. For example, as a toy for the unsuspecting, the cell phone has been made as addictive as possible via clever software, dopamine-activating apps and subliminal programming. As a military grade battlefield weapon, the cell phone (a supercomputer) is currently the centerpiece of data acquisition and targeting.
 
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