Cannabis Use Disorder

[Bill]

I had to laugh today when the newsman talked about this new disorder. Cannabis Use Disorder. And the symptoms of it are exactly what marijuana does to a person when they smoke marijuana. Also, after being discussed on the news, they said it was everything that we ever said that was bad about marijuana. Addiction leading to other addictions, not to use it when you're driving, and a whole slew of other things.

Funny what goes around comes around, LOL

 

[NBTT]

In Canada cannabis has been legal since 2018. Someone I follow online promotes cannabis as a facilitator to connect with the spiritual world. This person often quotes the bible but is not a true Christian and can't have proper discernment so cannabis is dangerous. I stay away from anything that can affect the sound mind the bible suggests we have.

Is there any acceptable case for a discerning Christian to use cannabis? Medical treatment?

 

[Bill]

In Canada cannabis has been legal since 2018. Someone I follow online promotes cannabis as a facilitator to connect with the spiritual world. This person often quotes the bible but is not a true Christian and can't have proper discernment so cannabis is dangerous. I stay away from anything that can affect the sound mind the bible suggests we have.

Is there any acceptable case for a discerning Christian to use cannabis? Medical treatment?

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I highly doubt it. I'm sure there are people that might even claim the truth in that but, anything that is mind altering, takes you away from God altogether

 

[Twistie]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I highly doubt it. I'm sure there are people that might even claim the truth in that but, anything that is mind altering, takes you away from God altogether

Personally me i use it.. it helps my shakes that i have from the results of the docs over prescribed me meds that i should of never been on in the first place.. helps my ptsd n paranoia so i can go to the store so i can sit at a park bench.. so i can walk my pup.. it helps with the pain that i am in when my whole body locks up from my temples to my toes n I have not had one seizure since i have been on it.. One should research tho on what strains are best for them there is so much more to it then THC the terps depending on which strain ya use have great benefits..now im talking bout me.. actually the Lord led me to it..i was in over 30 medications a Day at one point them evil docs had me in their clutches for a very very long Time..
Id trust the Lord natural medicine over what the wicked pharmaceutical company puts out any day to be completely honest..
Anywho..

Many see cannabis as a drug i see cures and relief
Many see pharmaceutical pills as a cure i see them as drugs that many have been brainwashed in thinking that they help them

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Too much of anything besides the Lord is not good for man no matter what it is

Hope alls well

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[Twistie]

Archaeological excavations at the ancient Judahite shrine of Tel Arad in Israel provide tangible evidence of cannabis use by the ancient Israelites. Gas chromatography and mass spectrometry testing on two Iron Age altars (dating to the 8th century BCE) revealed traces of THC, CBD, and CBN, confirming that cannabis was burned as incense in religious rites.




The Bible does not directly mention marijuana, but some scholars suggest the Hebrew term kaneh bosm (translated in the KJV as "sweet calamus" or "aromatic cane") refers to cannabis. This term appears in several Old Testament passages, including recipes for the holy anointing oil in Exodus 30:23.

 

[Twistie]

I had to laugh today when the newsman talked about this new disorder. Cannabis Use Disorder. And the symptoms of it are exactly what marijuana does to a person when they smoke marijuana. Also, after being discussed on the news, they said it was everything that we ever said that was bad about marijuana. Addiction leading to other addictions, not to use it when you're driving, and a whole slew of other things.

Funny what goes around comes around, LOL

Ya can get a habit its not addictive addiction is when one needs it every eay or they become ill.. people use words wrong n it confuses the mass like church in the Bible Church is not a building yet many think it it just like those i encountered believe the stage they stand on to preform in a "church" is an Alter.. go figure..
Now meth is addictive fentanyl is addictive cocaine is addictive many pills the doc give patients are addictive im j.s.

 

[Twistie]

 

[NBTT]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I highly doubt it. I'm sure there are people that might even claim the truth in that but, anything that is mind altering, takes you away from God altogether

Entheogen is a thing used in multiple spiritual practices (cannabis included). I stay away because I get my needs met by the Holy Spirit and I'd worry about encountering deceiving spirits.

 

[Bill]

Entheogen is a thing used in multiple spiritual practices (cannabis included). I stay away because I get my needs met by the Holy Spirit and I'd worry about encountering deceiving spirits.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

Yes deceiving Spirits can jump in anytime they want if people allow it

 

[backNforth]

anything that is mind altering, takes you away from God altogether

This is the key takeaway.

 

[Twistie]

This is the key takeaway.

Problem is docs have been using mind altering drugs for quite awhile..
They had me on downers at the age of 10 (Klonopin )im almost 60 now by 12 i was on that plus Christmas trees and pink cross roads..
Like i wrote n its funny how everyone wanna talk down on the natural but pro pharma crafted drugs
Many have are under their spell..

Idk part of the reason i stay away from the Holier then now Christian they still are in the flesh judging on the outward appearance..
I dont believe the lord want me to stay home bound in seizures all day instead of the Mary Jane that Ye gave me.. personally anyone who thinks that i believe they are the ones who whole hearted accept the ways of the world and closed the door on the ways of the Lord frfr..
How do u see it personally do you think i should go back to 30 meds and just sit in a dark room having seizures and shakes not even being able to cook or clean or go food shopping and take care of my husband when he get ill again? not be able to enjoy Abbas creation?

Do you think someone will come do all i can not?

Do you take any pharmaceutical meds?

Im just wondering what your view is..
@Bill can you tell me your thoughts?
Thanks

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[Bill]

Just like saying prayers for breakfast we should always say prayers before taking medicine, or even asking the Lord to blow us throughout the day when we forget to do things or if anything happens to us. That we're always in the hands of Jesus

 

[Twistie]

Oh for sure everything we get comes from the Lord.. one should bless anything that they intake as the do with food and drinks and always always just praise Abba all the day Long no matter what we are doing.. and thank Him for the comforts He may allow us to have..like the bed we may sleep on the blanket that we cover ourselves with the chairs that we may sit the roof that shelters us from the weather..
One never knows if they will still have them things five minutes from now try to take nothing i mean nothing for granted even that lightning bug we may see flying around while we sit out side..imma mess..i know i am but i know what is good and what is evil..
I know what is like to have nothing and to have much and i have learned to be content with what ever it is the Lord allows me to use and to love at each moment..
When one looses all the love deeply at one time they learn to appreciate every little thing


Hope alls well

N thanks for responding n not ignoring which many do when i try to speak n ask in the subject..

We are told to test every Spirit we encounter and thats what we all are we are just still in our caccoon stage

The River:

 

[joestue]

i 've only on maybe one occasion done cannabis and it was half tobacco and half weed.

as for its presence in Jewish history, i have my doubts. its a drug that destroys white matter between the two hemispheres of the brains

spiritual people need more connection, not less, and would reject the calming effects of thc. i need the opposite: LSD, my sister says.

 

[Twistie]

i 've only on maybe one occasion done cannabis and it was half tobacco and half weed.

as for its presence in Jewish history, i have my doubts. its a drug that destroys white matter between the two hemispheres of the brains

spiritual people need more connection, not less, and would reject the calming effects of thc. i need the opposite: LSD, my sister says.

I really would like to go to the mountains over in Mexico find one of the ole healers that know the ole ways and try the mushrooms.. i hear it helps bring back memories they have been locked away and help deal with the trauma that locked them up.. ive lost most of my childhood memories aling with with my playing the guitar..ive had alot if trauma to the brain from vehicle accidents and beatings in the head.im sure the electric shocks did more damage then good also. ive meant people that have known me for years and still have no recollection of them..but me personally imma stick with Abbas natural made over man wicked crafts that they put out..
At one time the medical field had me on medication that causes the same effect as giving one a lobotomy.. that medicine has been outlawed by the US now..idk i have no trust in man made meds or the people that practice it at this point

Hope alls well

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[backNforth]

Problem is docs have been using mind altering drugs for quite awhile..

The Holy Bible tells us about the rich men of the earth who use drugs (sorcery/pharmakeia) to enslave and destroy us.

They had me on downers at the age of 10 (Klonopin )im almost 60 now by 12 i was on that plus Christmas trees and pink cross roads..
Like i wrote n its funny how everyone wanna talk down on the natural but pro pharma crafted drugs

It's good that you discern the difference between the two kingdoms.

Many have are under their spell..

Indeed, as the definition of sorcery/pharmakeia is spell-casting/potion-making.

Idk part of the reason i stay away from the Holier then now Christian they still are in the flesh judging on the outward appearance..
I dont believe the lord want me to stay home bound in seizures all day instead of the Mary Jane that Ye gave me.. personally anyone who thinks that i believe they are the ones who whole hearted accept the ways of the world and closed the door on the ways of the Lord frfr..

I do know that you are fearfully and wonderfully made, and created in the image of God. So, of course, Satan would be out to destroy you. Meds or Mary Jane - anything that competes with the mind - is exploited by Satan. It's the mind that is the focus of the attack; any physical acting out is after the fact.

I also know that the Lord can deliver you from a dependence on those things (meds, or MJ, or whatever!). I would say that in every circumstances, do not settle for anything less than total liberty in Christ. They are using witchcraft/sorcery/pharmakeia against us. IOW, they have weaponized their spirituality. How many of us have weaponized ours? Some ppl cannot summon the physical strength to resist the addiction(s), but God says that to will it is sufficient for deliverance to take place.

How do u see it personally do you think i should go back to 30 meds and just sit in a dark room having seizures and shakes not even being able to cook or clean or go food shopping and take care of my husband when he get ill again? not be able to enjoy Abbas creation?

Sounds to me like you WANT to get set free! That is the first step. Do you have anyone in your area that can help guide you through a deliverance? If not, then even self-deliverance is possible.

Do you think someone will come do all i can not?

I hear you, as one less-than-ideal situation leads to another...

But I do know of One who can "come do all."

Do you take any pharmaceutical meds?

No, but about 60 years ago, I took some antibiotics - because I listened to someone else instead of God. If I had known then, what I know now, I never would have taken them.

When one looses all the love deeply at one time they learn to appreciate every little thing

Yes. That happened to me. Put me on my face for MONTHS. Changed me. I cried for Jesus for a long time. He came.

i have no trust in man made meds or the people that practice it at this point

Praise God! Ask him to show you where the strongholds are, so that you can confess them and be forgiven. Then ask him for strength to resist the devil, which will make the devils flee from you.

 

[Twistie]

The Holy Bible tells us about the rich men of the earth who use drugs (sorcery/pharmakeia) to enslave and destroy us.


It's good that you discern the difference between the two kingdoms.


Indeed, as the definition of sorcery/pharmakeia is spell-casting/potion-making.


I do know that you are fearfully and wonderfully made, and created in the image of God. So, of course, Satan would be out to destroy you. Meds or Mary Jane - anything that competes with the mind - is exploited by Satan. It's the mind that is the focus of the attack; any physical acting out is after the fact.

I also know that the Lord can deliver you from a dependence on those things (meds, or MJ, or whatever!). I would say that in every circumstances, do not settle for anything less than total liberty in Christ. They are using witchcraft/sorcery/pharmakeia against us. IOW, they have weaponized their spirituality. How many of us have weaponized ours? Some ppl cannot summon the physical strength to resist the addiction(s), but God says that to will it is sufficient for deliverance to take place.


Sounds to me like you WANT to get set free! That is the first step. Do you have anyone in your area that can help guide you through a deliverance? If not, then even self-deliverance is possible.


I hear you, as one less-than-ideal situation leads to another...

But I do know of One who can "come do all."


No, but about 60 years ago, I took some antibiotics - because I listened to someone else instead of God. If I had known then, what I know now, I never would have taken them.


Yes. That happened to me. Put me on my face for MONTHS. Changed me. I cried for Jesus for a long time. He came.


Praise God! Ask him to show you where the strongholds are, so that you can confess them and be forgiven. Then ask him for strength to resist the devil, which will make the devils flee from you.

I would not allow no ones here to lay hands on me one lady tried to yrs ago she started shaking real bad she spilt oil all over but prob was i new exactly what she was and i wanted her to see that I belong to the Lord her n her lil crew would try n get my husband over to them away from me but like i said i new they were wicked n so did my husband i was just craving fellowship over the Lord .

We are told to lay hands on no one and allow no one to lay hands on us unless we are told by the Lord..
Idk about Mary Jane limiting my access with the Lord cause He speaks to me on a daily basis and has for years I don't believe anything He created can come in-between me and Him..i said it before Mary jane is not addictive i thank the Lord for the Help He sends for this broken up body very excited for my new one to be quite honest..Lord send help in ways some don't understand i suppose i suppose some may think there are things that are stronger then the Lord n it would put fear in them. Now what i can say crack is very addictive n she was my bestie for yrs n yrs i didn't wanna deal with my reality with what i was going thru.. as for being set free i dont understand what ya mean because the Lord has already done that..ive walked with demons for many many years and if they could not hold me from Him i doubt very highly that the Mary jane will or even can.. idk just how i see thing I believe the Almighty is powerful more powerful that anything under the Sun frfr..when the Lord decides He don't want me on the Mary Jane He will deliver me from all the damage the pharmaceutical medicine and the brain trauma did until then I will carry this cross and sing gleefully until Him..
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Then Job answered the Lord, and said,

I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.

Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

Hope all is well

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[Bill]

I would not allow no ones here to lay hands on me one lady tried to yrs ago she started shaking real bad she spilt oil all over but prob was i new exactly what she was and i wanted her to see that I belong to the Lord her n her lil crew would try n get my husband over to them away from me but like i said i new they were wicked n so did my husband i was just craving fellowship over the Lord .

We are told to lay hands on no one and allow no one to lay hands on us unless we are told by the Lord..
Idk about Mary Jane limiting my access with the Lord cause He speaks to me on a daily basis and has for years I don't believe anything He created can come in-between me and Him..i said it before Mary jane is not addictive i thank the Lord for the Help He sends for this broken up body very excited for my new one to be quite honest..Lord send help in ways some don't understand i suppose i suppose some may think there are things that are stronger then the Lord n it would put fear in them. Now what i can say crack is very addictive n she was my bestie for yrs n yrs i didn't wanna deal with my reality with what i was going thru.. as for being set free i dont understand what ya mean because the Lord has already done that..ive walked with demons for many many years and if they could not hold me from Him i doubt very highly that the Mary jane will or even can.. idk just how i see thing I believe the Almighty is powerful more powerful that anything under the Sun frfr..when the Lord decides He don't want me on the Mary Jane He will deliver me from all the damage the pharmaceutical medicine and the brain trauma did until then I will carry this cross and sing gleefully until Him..
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Then Job answered the Lord, and said,

I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.

Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

Hope all is well

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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

As Jesus healed the servant of the Centurion, so can Jesus heal you at a distance. Don't have to lay hands on top of you to lay hands on you.

I know you twisty, and I love you have for God cleanses you and makes you whole with God. People forget about being washed in the blood of the Lamb. They forget about asking the Lord to wash them in the blood of the Lamb.

I remember when going to a church group how the preacher would always invite everyone to the altar and then ask the Lord to wash everyone in his blood. I wonder when the last time it was that I even heard of preacher talking about the blood of the Lamb. But I do know, it was back when I worked at ATS and preacher Charles, in Jennings Florida preached about it. It was at least 10 years ago if not more. But it was the last time I ever heard anyone even talking about the blood of the Lamb.

You see how the darkness even draws the preachers away from things that are very important

 

[Twistie]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

As Jesus healed the servant of the Centurion, so can Jesus heal you at a distance. Don't have to lay hands on top of you to lay hands on you.

I know you twisty, and I love you have for God cleanses you and makes you whole with God. People forget about being washed in the blood of the Lamb. They forget about asking the Lord to wash them in the blood of the Lamb.

I remember when going to a church group how the preacher would always invite everyone to the altar and then ask the Lord to wash everyone in his blood. I wonder when the last time it was that I even heard of preacher talking about the blood of the Lamb. But I do know, it was back when I worked at ATS and preacher Charles, in Jennings Florida preached about it. It was at least 10 years ago if not more. But it was the last time I ever heard anyone even talking about the blood of the Lamb.

You see how the darkness even draws the preachers away from things that are very important

It brings me so much sorrow when I walk into one of them temples anymore they seem to worship every thing under the Son but the Living One so many people seem to have the Lord tucked neatly in a box..idk it just boggles me..Ya know the Lord is the one who lead me away from the drugs and the streets life and darkness idk have ya ever watched a YouTube video about Kensington ave? Them is just one of many of my old stomping grounds im hoping one day the Lord will send me back that way to help those that are drowning in that darkness but i believe and i fear my daughter my be in that darkness n that i am fearful for i so wish i could help herr not to experience the ways that i went but sadly she dont even wish to be in contact with me n i allow it to be and respect her wish for I do not want to cause a greater strain between us so i just ask the Lord constantly please Abba if it is in your will please please send one in her path that can help lead her out of it please Anba put people in her path as you did with me that will help her find some rest out there.. idk i really have nothing here to latch on to only thing that keeps me going these days is just my husband telling me he would miss me if i wasn't around.. i used to feel so lonely all the time no matter who is around and only the Lord fills that void..Lord showed me quite a while ago who I am in Him n it boggles me how few know who they are in Him because its just such a marvelous experience one that nothing in this world could compare to there are no words to describe it ya know ?
I used to be offended when the people would put me down n think i was less then but know i just feel sorrow for them..Idk my husband dont understand how i can feel love and sorrow for those who have hurt me n i aint talking about a lil name calling but things that would crush many idk i just stay thankful for the lil moments of me Loving them no matter how they felt about me it allows me to remember the Good things in. The midst of my great tribulations.. hubby says i remind him much of his momma he said no matter what people said about her or did to her she be the first one there offering her help in anyway she could..
So so many have forgotten the bond of brotherhood and that curse is here upon this Land because of it. Seems many forget to keep their garden clean because they too busy raging about what others do.. i tell people that if i didn't have Love for you i wouldn't tell you about the darkness your walking in i just idk if i didn't like the person bill i probably be half tempted into talking them into doing something they get in great trouble for well that is what my old me would do frfr because that is what she did do I learned early on the power of words n how i could use them to get instant gratification..

I would not change a thing tho i would not keep around what I lost to just to satisfy my own need tho.. for if i did not go through what i did i would not Know and Love the Lord like i do i believe..

When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel

Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.

Anywho Hope all is well
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[Twistie]

One of my greatest weakness is the need to be perfect in anyone i set out to do n when i fail which is all the time for perfection does not fit into this wordly vessel i beat myself down constantly n then the Lord will come along and build me up i mean it dont matter if it is something i am cleaning to making an order that we can afford or doing my pottery smh that is my greatest redo i gotta work on every day with the Lord

Yea its a heck of ride this one is smh

All prayers appreciated lol


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