The Fruit consumed By Adam & Eve

[JunoTheServant]

Romans 14: 5 Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

The world is more educated today and yet we still carry around teachings from times when people didn’t know how to read. So the forbidden fruit according to the world is an apple but in which world do we eat an apple and get knowledge and understanding? Let's go back to the beginning and see what the bible is really teaching.

Let's define knowledge
Knowledge - Knowledge means to understand something. People get knowledge through teachings and experience.

knowledge can not be obtained from eating a physical fruit. That is why we have all these schools and universities and in these educational systems there are teachers. I have many scriptures I can share but I will cut it short so that the thread isn't too long.

Spoiler: Genesis 2: 4 - 9, 16 - 17

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

I want to focus on verse 9 where it states "out of the ground made god to grow every tree that is good for food". Pay attention to the semi colon, it separates the idea that the other two trees did not grow out of the ground. The bible was punctuated by man but in this case it is correct. Therefore the tree of life is not for physical food neither is the tree of knowledge of good and evil but rather they trees for spiritual food. One tree will teach you how to get eternal life and the other one would teach you how to die.


The very fact that it is called the tree of knowledge means you will learn something from this tree, no one has eaten anything to get knowledge, there is also nothing you can eat with your mouth to get eternal life. What people are missing is that Jesus often describe his creation as trees.

Let's progress this story.

Genesis 3: 1 - 11, 6 - 7, 11 - 13, 16 - 19, 22 - 24
3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Okay let's start here because we need to understand simple metaphors even when used in the bible, so was Adam and Eve walking around this entire time with their eyes closed? Of course not the serpent is telling Eve she will understand.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Again I will ask the same thing were their eyes closed before they ate the fruit? No, they gained understanding which meant they were taught.

8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

This is the part that no one pays attention to. GOD asked Adam "who told you that you were naked" He did not asked what told him because fruits don't talk. The serpent taught them things just like how we teach our children things they did not know. In other words Satan taught Eve lies and she went and told her husband.

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Now Adam immediately throws Eve under a bus and he is saying Eve told her and he ate her words. Every time you ears hear something and you believe it you just consumed that person word.

13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Satan tricked her into having a conversation with him.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.


This is why the number one thing the bible warns about is false prophets. The tree of knowledge of good evil was none other than Satan himself, he was all up in Eve ears lying but a good liar always tell you some truth otherwise the lie won't sound believable.

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

So Satan actually told the truth when he said you will be as gods knowing good and evil. Again a good liar always has to tell a fraction of the truth in order to destroy you with the lie because he lied when he said you shall not surely die. Guess what? Adam and Eve are both dead.

23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Notice the cherubim's protect the way of the tree of life not the garden of Eden. The LORD is the tree of life that dwells in between the Cherubims. See 2 Kings 19: 15 and Psalm 99:1


Proverbs 18: 21
21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Life is on the Lord's tongue and death is on Satan tongue. Only Jesus has the words of eternal life that's what Adam and Eve needed to eat.

I said this already but listening to someone and believing what they have to say is the same as consuming words.

Job 34: 3
3 For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat.

Let's look at a conversation between Jesus and his disciples.

Spoiler: John 6: 48 - 56, 60 - 61, 63, 66 - 68

8 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Notice how his followers were thinking fleshly just like how everyday people think when they assume Adam and Eve ate an apple even though the word apple never appeared in Genesis. Once Jesus realized they didn't understand he simply told them his words will give eternal life. If you want to live forever eat Christ's words

This should have been Adam and Eve's choice in the Garden of Eden but they ate Satan’s word instead. We have the opportunity to eat God’s words. All we need to do is read and believe what we read. Allow me to show this from the bible.

Spoiler: Ezekiel 2: 1 - 3, 8 - 10

2 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.

2 And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.

3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.

8 But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee.

9 And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein;

10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

It's interesting how God told Ezekiel to open his mouth. The LORD is trying to teach us something here because every time we see the word "eat" we think of our bellies.

How do you eat a book? You read it! You consume more with your eyes and ears than you will ever consume with your mouth.

Spoiler: Revelation 10: 1 - 2, 9 - 10

10 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

The angel told John to eat the book. Which simply means to read the book because now once he read it he will speak God's word but since don't nobody want to hear the true gospel it will make his belly bitter.

Jeremiah 15: 16
16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts.

Jeremiah ate God's word. Anyone who reads the bible and believe are people who eat God's word. It's funny how people are upset at Adam and Eve decision when we are all doing the same thing that they did. Consuming a bunch of lies, this is what Adam and Eve did in the garden of Eden.


Hosea 10: 13
13 Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.

This is the fruit that Adam and Eve ate in the garden of Eden. I pray you got some understanding, thank you for reading this post.

 

[NBTT]

Sorry but my old and ill brain needs a traditional structure:

1. Say what you're going to say
2. Say it
3. Say what is demonstrated by what you said

Don't take the bible too literally? (fruit isn't fruit, eat isn't eat)
Do not be deceived? MT 24
The 1st apple computer cost $666.66 so observing literal things in the world has some use for not being deceived.

 

[JunoTheServant]

Sorry but my old and ill brain needs a traditional structure:

1. Say what you're going to say
2. Say it
3. Say what is demonstrated by what you said

Don't take the bible too literally? (fruit isn't fruit, eat isn't eat)
Do not be deceived? MT 24
The 1st apple computer cost $666.66 so observing literal things in the world has some use for not being deceived.

Not sure I clearly understand your 3 points. Maybe read the post again slowly?

As for you asked after "fruit isn't fruit, eat isn't eat" I did not say that. I am saying you eat with your mind and ears and the scripture tells us this clearly. Fruit is fruit but there is spiritual fruits as well. Have you not heard of the fruits of the spirit?

I didn't just type, I put several scriptures proving what the bible is teaching as Paul stated I should prove all things. So you can weigh what you read whether it is false or not. Have a good day.

 

[NBTT]

Not sure I clearly understand your 3 points.

This article applies it to public speaking but I've had this drilled in to me from grade school onward about writing.

 

[NBTT]

knowledge can not be obtained from eating a physical fruit

This has been discussed in The Fruit consumed By Adam & Eve. That thread was closed by an administrator since nobody can claim that God can not do what he said he did.

The OP in that thread asked: WAS IT AN APPLE THAT EVE DID EAT?

Blame the French: How the Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

TLDR: French people used latin bibles and fruit in latin is "pomum". In old French "pom" meant fruit and later became "pomme" which now means apple.

Fun fact: potato in French is "pomme de terre" or "apple of the earth" where "pomme" is from the old meaning "fruit" (so originally it meant "fruit of the earth" but now reads as "apple of the earth").

PS: The use of the forum's spoiler feature in this OP to embed bible verses while shortening the post is very useful.

 

[JunoTheServant]

This has been discussed in The Fruit consumed By Adam & Eve. That thread was closed by an administrator since nobody can claim that God can not do what he said he did.

The poster of the thread was literally speculating with no scripture basis. In this thread I clearly outline what they consume based on what is written in the bible, I used clear examples and rightly divided the word of truth. That's how the bible is supposed to be studied. You can't say Eve had sex with the serpent and and have no scripture to prove that. In this thread I proved using the bible that you can eat things that isn't for your belly. John chapter 6 is the nail in the coffin.

2 Timothy 2: 15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Blame the French: How the Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

It's not an apple and I speak English.

Isaiah 28: 10 - 11
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

Saying the same thing as 2 Timothy 2: 15 and God will communicate with you with whatever language you are speaking. If we call ourselves believers then we should have faith in this as well. Instead people go off and study Hebrew and all these languages and confuse themselves in the process. Studying this bible already takes plenty work. God wants people to gain salvation not lose it.

TLDR: French people used latin bibles and fruit in latin is "pomum". In old French "pom" meant fruit and later became "pomme" which now means apple.

Why are you bringing up French, in the English translation it says fruit.

You ignoring the fact that the bible constantly uses allegory such as mountains to represent government, trees to represent people, and fruit to represent works. Would like to see scriptures using these allegories??

Jesus literally taught the gospel in parables. Someone who genuinely wants to serve God can read this and see that it makes complete sense.

PS: The use of the forum's spoiler feature in this OP to embed bible verses while shortening the post is very useful.

No problem

 

[NBTT]

It's not an apple and I speak English.

Why are you bringing up French, in the English translation it says fruit.

This is embarrassing. You used the word apple four times in the OP with your false assumptions about the reasons the word apple was introduced in popular culture about Genesis. Again read the article from post #5:

How the Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

 

[JunoTheServant]

This is embarrassing. You used the word apple four times in the OP with your false assumptions about the reasons the word apple was introduced in popular culture about Genesis. Again read the article from post #5:

How the Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

That is to express my disappointment with the lies I have been taught. I grew up a Catholic, and I can tell you straight up I am not interested in lies and man excuse as to why they inserted apple into the story. The whole point is that the bible never said it was an apple and you can't add to the word of God. Drop the scriptures to show me how this fruit became an apple so that I can be convinced out of the bible. Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[NBTT]

That is to express my disappointment with the lies I have been taught. I grew up a Catholic, and I can tell you straight up I am not interested in lies and man excuse as to why they inserted apple into the story. The whole point is that the bible never said it was an apple and you can't add to the word of God. Drop the scriptures to show me how this fruit became an apple so that I can be convinced out of the bible. Thanks, I appreciate it.

It's an apple in popular culture. It's a fruit in scripture. You are the one bringing up the apple in popular culture with incorrect an explanation as how it got there. I merely gave the correct explanation.

 

[JunoTheServant]

It's an apple in popular culture. It's a fruit in scripture. You are the one bringing up the apple in popular culture with incorrect an explanation as how it got there. I merely gave the correct explanation.

Well I brought it up because it was TAUGHT to me that Adam and Eve ate an apple. It's only after I read the bible myself I learned that was a lie. I was also taught that Noah brought 2 of each animals in the ark, I learned that was a lie when I read the bible and realized clean beast was brought in by sevens and unclean by two's. I can sit here and talk about all the lies I was taught by my lying pastor and horrible thing is the lies I learned is exactly what is popular.

This is just one of the many lies I have had to unlearn and I simply sharing the truth of the matter. I will keep being a vessel for the truth until I am no longer breathing. Somebody got to tell the truth. I will read whatever you posted later. Have a good day mate.

 

[NBTT]

I grew up a Catholic

That might explain the unbiblical teachings you refer to. They once persecuted and even killed translators who wanted to make the bible available in a language of the people.

Just found out yesterday that a class action lawsuit for pedophilia has been filed against the catholic priests who ran the private high school I attended. It happened before my time but one of the pedophile priests named in the lawsuit had been promoted to school principal by the time I attended. The lawsuit shows that the pedophile priests' reputation was known to management and students. Should have been fired and criminally charged not promoted. The lawsuit describes in horrible graphic detail the actions of the pedophile priests.

I will keep being a vessel for the truth until I am no longer breathing.

Amen to that brother. Truth in all things. Jesus is the truth.

 

[JunoTheServant]

How the Forbidden Fruit Became an Apple

This articular is literal theory. Whoever wrote this article stated "If my argument is correct, the change occurred as the result of forces that are completely indifferent to these matters. It was a general shift in the meaning of an Old French word that happened to have ramifications for the best-known symbol in the Hebrew Bible."

I am not interested in someone's guess or theory.

Going around teaching the bible like this will get millions to the lake of fire. What I did in this thread was break down what happened using scripture. Why is it people refuse to do this and are always giving someone their opinion??? By rightly dividing the word of truth you can teach doctrine. I gave the scriptures concerning this already.

Colossians 2: 8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

I cannot stress this enough. God created ALL languages and he is more than capable of preserving his word in whatever language HE had it translated in. Satan murdered the creation with his WORDS because he is a liar. We seriously underestimate the power of the tongue.

John 8: 44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

This is why I highlighted that Adam and Eve ate THE FRUIT OF LIES

Proverbs 18: 21
21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

The fruit that got Adam and Eve killed was that they believed the lies that came from Satan's tongue. It's the same way how many people will end up in the lake of fire for believing whatever a false prophet teaches and this world is filled with them. False doctrine is much more popular than the truth.

That might explain the unbiblical teachings you refer to. They once persecuted and even killed translators who wanted to make the bible available in a language of the people.

Just found out yesterday that a class action lawsuit for pedophilia has been filed against the catholic priests who ran the private high school I attended. It happened before my time but one of the pedophile priests named in the lawsuit had been promoted to school principal by the time I attended. The lawsuit shows that the pedophile priests' reputation was known to management and students. Should have been fired and criminally charged not promoted. The lawsuit describes in horrible graphic detail the actions of the pedophile priests.


Amen to that brother. Truth in all things. Jesus is the truth.

The catholic church is the mother church. They are the ones teaching when men die you go to heaven if you were good and to torment if you are evil. Notice how all churches copy this doctrine such as Seven Day Adventist, Baptist, Methodist etc. Essentially all these churches out there are literally daughters of Rome and this is the 4th beast we are living in that Daniel warned us about. If you celebrate Christmas, you are a Roman catholic whether you claim to be or not. Once we understand how deception works we will realize we have all made the same choice as Adam and Eve and we need to turn to God and repent.

Yes indeed, Jesus is the truth which is why he is "THE TREE OF LIFE". If you accept the truth you will get access to the tree of life that Adam and Eve got man barred from in the Garden of Eden and Jesus will teach you how to live forever.

Revelation 2: 7
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

So if the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is an apple tree what is the tree of life? An orange tree? Remember Jesus has the WORDS of eternal life. That's what you need to eat.

See how Jesus is always saying he that has an ear? Because you listen to the words that are written in this book. You will get eternal life.

Revelation 22: 14
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

 

[JunoTheServant]

I also want to highlight that the story of Job is a perfect example of what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Spoiler: Job 1: 1, 6, 8 - 11

Job 1: 1, 6, 8 - 11
1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.

Now, Satan proceeded to destroy pretty much everything Job owned, killed his children and got rid of all his substance. None of that Got Job to sin with his lips. So I Wonder how Satan will get Job to curse GOD then??

Spoiler: Job 2: 9 - 10

Job 2: 9 - 10
9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

See how Job did not hearken to the voice of his wife but rather he rebuked her, this is what Adam failed to do. Satan can do this with anyone whether male or female.

Genesis 3: 17
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Adam should not have hearken to the voice of his wife because Adam listened to his wife, she got him to believe Satan's lies. All he needed to do was rebuke her. Funny how this serpent does not change his tactics.

 

[NBTT]

Going around teaching the bible like this will get millions to the lake of fire.

"Nothing in the Bible indicates that the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was an apple." That is from the wikipedia page Forbidden fruit.

Your original post states: "the forbidden fruit according to the world is an apple". Nothing is more unscholarly and worldly than wikipedia and it refutes your opening statement.

I'm saddened that you were taught something false by some strange teacher. I'm happy you are reading bible truth for yourself now. I'm unsubscribing and blocking/ignoring you because my energy/time is limited. Nothing personal. God bless.

 

[Bill]

Romans 14: 5 Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

The world is more educated today and yet we still carry around teachings from times when people didn’t know how to read. So the forbidden fruit according to the world is an apple but in which world do we eat an apple and get knowledge and understanding? Let's go back to the beginning and see what the bible is really teaching.

Let's define knowledge
Knowledge - Knowledge means to understand something. People get knowledge through teachings and experience.

knowledge can not be obtained from eating a physical fruit. That is why we have all these schools and universities and in these educational systems there are teachers. I have many scriptures I can share but I will cut it short so that the thread isn't too long.

Spoiler: Genesis 2: 4 - 9, 16 - 17

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

I want to focus on verse 9 where it states "out of the ground made god to grow every tree that is good for food". Pay attention to the semi colon, it separates the idea that the other two trees did not grow out of the ground. The bible was punctuated by man but in this case it is correct. Therefore the tree of life is not for physical food neither is the tree of knowledge of good and evil but rather they trees for spiritual food. One tree will teach you how to get eternal life and the other one would teach you how to die.


The very fact that it is called the tree of knowledge means you will learn something from this tree, no one has eaten anything to get knowledge, there is also nothing you can eat with your mouth to get eternal life. What people are missing is that Jesus often describe his creation as trees.

Let's progress this story.

Genesis 3: 1 - 11, 6 - 7, 11 - 13, 16 - 19, 22 - 24
3 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Okay let's start here because we need to understand simple metaphors even when used in the bible, so was Adam and Eve walking around this entire time with their eyes closed? Of course not the serpent is telling Eve she will understand.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Again I will ask the same thing were their eyes closed before they ate the fruit? No, they gained understanding which meant they were taught.

8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

This is the part that no one pays attention to. GOD asked Adam "who told you that you were naked" He did not asked what told him because fruits don't talk. The serpent taught them things just like how we teach our children things they did not know. In other words Satan taught Eve lies and she went and told her husband.

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Now Adam immediately throws Eve under a bus and he is saying Eve told her and he ate her words. Every time you ears hear something and you believe it you just consumed that person word.

13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

Satan tricked her into having a conversation with him.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.


This is why the number one thing the bible warns about is false prophets. The tree of knowledge of good evil was none other than Satan himself, he was all up in Eve ears lying but a good liar always tell you some truth otherwise the lie won't sound believable.

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

So Satan actually told the truth when he said you will be as gods knowing good and evil. Again a good liar always has to tell a fraction of the truth in order to destroy you with the lie because he lied when he said you shall not surely die. Guess what? Adam and Eve are both dead.

23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Notice the cherubim's protect the way of the tree of life not the garden of Eden. The LORD is the tree of life that dwells in between the Cherubims. See 2 Kings 19: 15 and Psalm 99:1


Proverbs 18: 21
21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Life is on the Lord's tongue and death is on Satan tongue. Only Jesus has the words of eternal life that's what Adam and Eve needed to eat.

I said this already but listening to someone and believing what they have to say is the same as consuming words.

Job 34: 3
3 For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat.

Let's look at a conversation between Jesus and his disciples.

Spoiler: John 6: 48 - 56, 60 - 61, 63, 66 - 68

8 I am that bread of life.

49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Notice how his followers were thinking fleshly just like how everyday people think when they assume Adam and Eve ate an apple even though the word apple never appeared in Genesis. Once Jesus realized they didn't understand he simply told them his words will give eternal life. If you want to live forever eat Christ's words

This should have been Adam and Eve's choice in the Garden of Eden but they ate Satan’s word instead. We have the opportunity to eat God’s words. All we need to do is read and believe what we read. Allow me to show this from the bible.

Spoiler: Ezekiel 2: 1 - 3, 8 - 10

2 And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee.

2 And the spirit entered into me when he spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, that I heard him that spake unto me.

3 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, even unto this very day.

8 But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house: open thy mouth, and eat that I give thee.

9 And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein;

10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

It's interesting how God told Ezekiel to open his mouth. The LORD is trying to teach us something here because every time we see the word "eat" we think of our bellies.

How do you eat a book? You read it! You consume more with your eyes and ears than you will ever consume with your mouth.

Spoiler: Revelation 10: 1 - 2, 9 - 10

10 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.

9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

The angel told John to eat the book. Which simply means to read the book because now once he read it he will speak God's word but since don't nobody want to hear the true gospel it will make his belly bitter.

Jeremiah 15: 16
16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O Lord God of hosts.

Jeremiah ate God's word. Anyone who reads the bible and believe are people who eat God's word. It's funny how people are upset at Adam and Eve decision when we are all doing the same thing that they did. Consuming a bunch of lies, this is what Adam and Eve did in the garden of Eden.


Hosea 10: 13
13 Ye have plowed wickedness, ye have reaped iniquity; ye have eaten the fruit of lies: because thou didst trust in thy way, in the multitude of thy mighty men.

This is the fruit that Adam and Eve ate in the garden of Eden. I pray you got some understanding, thank you for reading this post.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

I think the first thing that comes to my mind is that as far as Adam and Eve being naked goes, it plainly did not occur to them that they were naked. Then after eating the fruit, they felt the guiltiness of being naked. Otherwise they would not have worn clothing.

I guess the thought that comes to my mind is why the Apple? I wonder why God chose the Apple to be the instrument to begin the story with. Why not a pair or something else that would seem a little more realistic to the area that they were in. Could it be that the Apple was not common in that region?

As far as intelligence goes, one of the things that struck me in your words is you stated that the people were not intelligent. They're strong evidence that you are wrong. In fact there is evidence that the people from the past had really unusual intelligence, things that we can't copy even to this day.

Things like how were the blocks of the pyramids moved. I don't believe in aliens and they didn't have the equipment that we have today so how in the world did they move them, because some of those blocks for the pyramids weighed over a hundred tons each.

And if you want to go maybe the Easter Island and try to explain how those people moved the statues from where they were quarried to the beachfront. That can't be explained to either.

Then there's the skull of the human that was found in an ice glacier or the skull had obviously had some surgery done and the man survived.

So you're saying that the people of the past were dumb without knowledge and so on would be false. As there were accomplishments made in many ways that are surpassing to us at this time.

 

[JunoTheServant]

"Nothing in the Bible indicates that the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge was an apple." That is from the wikipedia page Forbidden fruit.

Your original post states: "the forbidden fruit according to the world is an apple". Nothing is more unscholarly and worldly than wikipedia and it refutes your opening statement.

I'm saddened that you were taught something false by some strange teacher. I'm happy you are reading bible truth for yourself now. I'm unsubscribing and blocking/ignoring you because my energy/time is limited. Nothing personal. God bless.

When I say the world it means this is what people generally believe. I think you are holding onto this point too long. I believed it was an apple, then it just became a fruit, my coworkers say it's an apple and some say it could be any fruit. one hundred years ago people believe that lie too. Just like how people believe their dead mother is in Heaven, this is no different. The main point of the opening post is that it's not a physical fruit. I am fully aware that the narrative change to a fruit rather than an apple.

No problem with me, not everyone wants to hear the truth, have a good day.

I think the first thing that comes to my mind is that as far as Adam and Eve being naked goes, it plainly did not occur to them that they were naked. Then after eating the fruit, they felt the guiltiness of being naked. Otherwise they would not have worn clothing.

Ok so you believe that they learnt they were naked without gaining information that they were naked?

If there is a dark spot on your back you can't know it's there until someone tells you that it is there. That's all I'm pointing out here.

I guess the thought that comes to my mind is why the Apple? I wonder why God chose the Apple to be the instrument to begin the story with. Why not a pair or something else that would seem a little more realistic to the area that they were in. Could it be that the Apple was not common in that region?

Well it's popularly believed to be an apple. The bible never said it was an apple.

As far as intelligence goes, one of the things that struck me in your words is you stated that the people were not intelligent. They're strong evidence that you are wrong. In fact there is evidence that the people from the past had really unusual intelligence, things that we can't copy even to this day.

Things like how were the blocks of the pyramids moved. I don't believe in aliens and they didn't have the equipment that we have today so how in the world did they move them, because some of those blocks for the pyramids weighed over a hundred tons each.

And if you want to go maybe the Easter Island and try to explain how those people moved the statues from where they were quarried to the beachfront. That can't be explained to either.

Then there's the skull of the human that was found in an ice glacier or the skull had obviously had some surgery done and the man survived.

So you're saying that the people of the past were dumb without knowledge and so on would be false. As there were accomplishments made in many ways that are surpassing to us at this time.

Never said this, I said "the world is more educated today." Meaning more people have access to knowledge, you don't even need to go med school to know what a doctor knows. I made that statement because some people were denied access to education especially my people during slavery and this is a historical fact so we had no choice but to trust whatever the teacher said but then they can teach whatever lies they want to.

I agree that people of the past were skilled, talented and intelligent. They were able to make perfect circles without the tools we have. Maybe quote my statement were I said "people were not intelligent" cause I did not say this.