I know it's been years since I've been to OK, but I don't recall any of the countryside looking like the picture on the cover!
Lord got us being still and knowing He is God being still is hard for me at times im a roamerI know it's been years since I've been to OK, but I don't recall any of the countryside looking like the picture on the cover!
Very true words in this song! Thanks for sharing.
God bless you and yours.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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talking about learning patiences Lord can be very funny at times in my life hope all is well with you and yoursFirst of all ive got to say, you cant answer questions such as this with just a yes or no answer, but i'll try to be as brief as i can.
First of all i dont believe in "Homeland", its Gods world and we're ALL human beings made in the image of God, Love your neighbour as yourself, wherever that "neighbour" may be, and Treat others as youd like to be treated are the basis of my faith, what happens after that is up to God, ....... and when you say " Do you believe it is right for others to come in a homeland and try to change the ways and customs to their own..", are you thinking of the first European settlers in the Americas who sure did change the ways and customs of the indigenous people to their own.
Ok ive mentioned my views on "homeland", but do i think its right that Christians should help those in need, well Matthew 25: 31-45 sort of suggests that we should as does the 2 Golden rules ive already mentioned above, when Christ said to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, welcome the stranger, give water to the thirsty, provide medical care for the sick and help for the imprisoned, there were no caveats, no conditions, if people are in need, we are called to help them, simple as that.
Youve really got to get out of this "us and them" mentality, do you believe we are ALL created in the image of God and worthy of being treated as we'd want to be treated, if you do believe that whey does it matter where people are from, and yes, i do believe people can integrate into different societies, look around the world, for nearly ALL people were "immigrants" at one time in their history.
We are ALL capable of Evil acts, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Athiest or whatever, why the emphasis on "a child raised from birth in an Islamic ruled house", or do you believe that some nations, some races of people are inherently more aligned to "Terrorism" than others, to give one example from the many i could choose, in 2003, it was a "Christian" nation, the US, that launched an unprovoked attack on Iraq which subsequently left over a million dead, tens of millions displaced, the rise of ISIS and the ramifications of which are still being felt today, are we to extrapolate from that that " a child raised from birth in an Christian ruled house can very well be a terroristic threat to the Middle East?
As ive already said, i believe ,based on Christs teachings that no one should be homeless and hungry, for we are called on to "Feed the Hungry" and "House the homeless", whether they be "outsiders" as you call them or otherwise, for me, they are just people and if they are in need, we are called on to help them.
Yes i do, for how can i claim to love my neighbour as myself and treat others as i'd want to be treated when i deny others what i want for myself. You cant claim to be following Christs teachings and regard some people as not being worthy of our Love and Compassion,....... even our Enemies, and those that despise and ill treat us are to be loved, well treated , blessed and prayed for, Matthew 5:44
Are you saying that when we help someone in need then we are responsible for every action that person commits after we've helped them, ive not read those words of Christ so perhaps you could give me the reference for that, as far as i can understand Christs words, we are to help those in need, including our enemies, regardless of the consequences, for if we accept that we are ALL evil and in need of Gods Forgiveness, grace and mercy for our manifold sins, then who would we help, for we are ALL sinners. No, the teaching is clear, when the good Samaritan helped the man in need, he asked no questions, he didnt ponder the possible consequences of his actions, he saw the need and acted with Compassion, and Christ asks of his his professed followers to do likewise Luke 10: 25-37.
But are we not our Brothers keeper, is the Neighbour not depicted as the one in need, and where does Christ say that our Love and compassion must be restricted to our "own", in fact in Matthew 5:44-48 he says exactly the opposite, " 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45;that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
We are commanded to help ALL those in need, wherever they may be, there is no distinction between our "Own" and supposed "Outsiders", Christ depicted himself among the hungry, naked, thirsty, homeless, sick or imprisoned without distinction of race or nationality , in fact he said in Luke 13:29 " And they shall come from the east and from the west, and from the north and from the south, and shall sit down in the Kingdom of God.", you really have to get out of this Nationalistic way of thinking, of "us" and "them", we are ALL Gods Children, it is ALL Gods Creation, and we as Christs followers are called to help ALL, wherever they may be.
Hope that helps
May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdomI know it's been years since I've been to OK, but I don't recall any of the countryside looking like the picture on the cover!
Very true words in this song! Thanks for sharing.
God bless you and yours.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
\o/
Ahh so you cant let a yea be yes and a no be no ya need to humble ya self to cure that blindnessFirst of all ive got to say, you cant answer questions such as this with just a yes or no answer, but i'll try to be as brief as i can.
First of all i dont believe in "Homeland", its Gods world and we're ALL human beings made in the image of God, Love your neighbour as yourself, wherever that "neighbour" may be, and Treat others as youd like to be treated are the basis of my faith, what happens after that is up to God, ....... and when you say " Do you believe it is right for others to come in a homeland and try to change the ways and customs to their own..", are you thinking of the first European settlers in the Americas who sure did change the ways and customs of the indigenous people to their own.
Ok ive mentioned my views on "homeland", but do i think its right that Christians should help those in need, well Matthew 25: 31-45 sort of suggests that we should as does the 2 Golden rules ive already mentioned above, when Christ said to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, welcome the stranger, give water to the thirsty, provide medical care for the sick and help for the imprisoned, there were no caveats, no conditions, if people are in need, we are called to help them, simple as that.
Youve really got to get out of this "us and them" mentality, do you believe we are ALL created in the image of God and worthy of being treated as we'd want to be treated, if you do believe that whey does it matter where people are from, and yes, i do believe people can integrate into different societies, look around the world, for nearly ALL people were "immigrants" at one time in their history.
We are ALL capable of Evil acts, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Athiest or whatever, why the emphasis on "a child raised from birth in an Islamic ruled house", or do you believe that some nations, some races of people are inherently more aligned to "Terrorism" than others, to give one example from the many i could choose, in 2003, it was a "Christian" nation, the US, that launched an unprovoked attack on Iraq which subsequently left over a million dead, tens of millions displaced, the rise of ISIS and the ramifications of which are still being felt today, are we to extrapolate from that that " a child raised from birth in an Christian ruled house can very well be a terroristic threat to the Middle East?
As ive already said, i believe ,based on Christs teachings that no one should be homeless and hungry, for we are called on to "Feed the Hungry" and "House the homeless", whether they be "outsiders" as you call them or otherwise, for me, they are just people and if they are in need, we are called on to help them.
Yes i do, for how can i claim to love my neighbour as myself and treat others as i'd want to be treated when i deny others what i want for myself. You cant claim to be following Christs teachings and regard some people as not being worthy of our Love and Compassion,....... even our Enemies, and those that despise and ill treat us are to be loved, well treated , blessed and prayed for, Matthew 5:44
Are you saying that when we help someone in need then we are responsible for every action that person commits after we've helped them, ive not read those words of Christ so perhaps you could give me the reference for that, as far as i can understand Christs words, we are to help those in need, including our enemies, regardless of the consequences, for if we accept that we are ALL evil and in need of Gods Forgiveness, grace and mercy for our manifold sins, then who would we help, for we are ALL sinners. No, the teaching is clear, when the good Samaritan helped the man in need, he asked no questions, he didnt ponder the possible consequences of his actions, he saw the need and acted with Compassion, and Christ asks of his his professed followers to do likewise Luke 10: 25-37.
But are we not our Brothers keeper, is the Neighbour not depicted as the one in need, and where does Christ say that our Love and compassion must be restricted to our "own", in fact in Matthew 5:44-48 he says exactly the opposite, " 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45;that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
We are commanded to help ALL those in need, wherever they may be, there is no distinction between our "Own" and supposed "Outsiders", Christ depicted himself among the hungry, naked, thirsty, homeless, sick or imprisoned without distinction of race or nationality , in fact he said in Luke 13:29 " And they shall come from the east and from the west, and from the north and from the south, and shall sit down in the Kingdom of God.", you really have to get out of this Nationalistic way of thinking, of "us" and "them", we are ALL Gods Children, it is ALL Gods Creation, and we as Christs followers are called to help ALL, wherever they may be.
Hope that helps
Oh, I've been near the AR/OK border, but it's been so many years, I couldn't tell you exactly where! lol
