Brad Huber
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Indeed, protesting PEACEFULLY is protected by our constitution. But liberals havent been peaceful in their protests for decades.
Do the Protesters even know what they are Protesting ( Minneapolis).
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I am taking your advice and trying to be careful where i go with this Brother Nick, so it appears that Twistie thinks " Your words show you walk with a darkness or a evil entity or a imp what ever one may want to call it..", If someone said that to you, what would be your reply?.
I try to base my actions and words on Christs teachings and as best i know do believe that i am walking towards the Light of his Truth. I have asked for specific details of where she believes i am being led into darkness but she wont give them.
Without further clarity how can i believe that she is indeed being spoken to by God, for it goes against all i currently hold as the truth based on Christs words in the Gospels.
Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated
With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick
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Just a couple of examples then would suffice, where you believe my words or actions are showing that i "walk in the Darkness" and have "an evil entity or an imp".
Amen to that!.
Hi Richard, while i share your sentiments about Trump and his policies regarding immigration, i think its important to note that we are ALL Evil in the sight of God, and while Trump may be an extreme example of this, ALL administrations have engaged in policies that are abhorrent to God. The Devil could only offer Christ ALL the kingdoms of this world because ALL the kingdoms of this world are in his Power.
This isnt to say that we shouldnt protest and campaign against the Evils of the world, the same way we pray for forgiveness for the sins we commit and the evil within us that spawns those sins, , but we must do so bearing in mind Christs commandment to "Love your enemies, do good for those that hate you and bless those that curse you and pray for those that spitefully use and persecute you".
We are not Left or right, conservative or Liberal, we are "Christ centred" and his teachings and his commandments should be reflected in our every thought and action.
How do they show that?, which of my words show that i "walk with a darkness or a evil entity or a imp what ever one may want to call it.."?
Hi Bill, i would just say dont believe all you see on Facebook, youtube and " a few other things". Its so easy for someone to pretend to be other then themselves and sow lies and deceit. Unless of course you have independent corroboration of these facts, which i would be interested to see.
Would be interested to see that proof bill, i'm not doubting what youre saying, it may well be true, but i would like to see the evidence for myself. Thanks
I think its so easy for ALL of us to be "blinded by our Politics" Brother Nick, if we give our allegiance to any Human Institution then its so easy for us to become tainted by the corruption and Evil inherent in all Human organisations and forget that our only allegiance should be to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Agreed, violence in whatever its form should never be used by a follower of Christ, "turn the other cheek, Love your enemies, do not resist evil" are calls for a deep pacifism inherent in Christs teachings.
With the love of Christ Jesus Brother Nick
Steve
Youve really got to let go of this blind adherence to Conservative ideology and a seeming hatred of the "left" in all its various forms and understand that you must instead be "Christ Centred" in all you say and do.
If you claim to be a follower of Christ then he must have ALL of your allegiance, his teachings and his life are the sole arbiter of your values and how you lead your life.
And those values, are the values of Justice, Love and compassion summed up in Christs words of " Love your Neighbour as yourself" and "treat others as you'd want to be treated", there are no exceptions, no distinction based on Politics, Nationality religion, or gender, and there is no room for Hate in the life of a follower of Christ, unless it is to hate the sinful lives we lead.
Hi Brad, violence isnt restricted to any one Group or political alignment, ask the residents of Charlottesville in August 2017 or the Police officers on duty in Washington on January 6th 2021.
We are ALL capable of violence in thought, word and deed and as Christians must try to follow Christs commandments to Love our Enemies and treat others as we'd want to be treated.
We are ALL "very evil beings", and ALL in dire need of Gods Grace, Mercy and Forgiveness, those that seek to judge others should perhaps take the log out of their own eye so they can see clearly to remove the speck from their Brothers/Sisters.
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What has always been the issue brother, is that not everyone will see the words of Jesus as simple as you appear to make them. When your actions have negative results, and from what I can tell this Sister in Christ has mentioned a few of them, and you have not addressed them to her satisfaction. Is it surprising that she might very well see the initiating actions as being the results of something sinister and dark, instead of just you attempting to walk in the truth as best you can?
I can't guide you but to say be open and honest in how you address her queries. Understanding that not everyone will be able to see what you are doing in a positive light, for they judge them by the results and not your intentions.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom
Might I ask where you get your information from that they weren't paid? It's pretty much an established fact that George Soros has paid hundreds of protesters over the years, everything anti-Trump of course. And isn't just those in Minneapolis but all over the place.
Why is it, when it's not a hot button subject anymore for the TV, that all the protesters are gone now. If it was such a big item why aren't they still out there?
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You probably havent heard, but liberals funded some far right people to be violent there, it wasnt a natural desire to be violent. That was in Charlotte, and on jan 6th, the liberal government sent out fbi people, over 60 of them to promote violence and be violent themselves, again something liberals have done to try and make it look like patriots are violent. You are listening to liberal propaganda instead of the Holy Spirit.
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I'd forgotten about that. It was the Southern Poverty Law Center who came up with listings that attacked conservatives, and was used by the Biden Administration to set their agenda. Meeting monthly with them! Also, paying actual violent groups like the KKK, to incite violence and to blame it on conservatives/republicans that they were doing so! They are a leftist activist group notorious for comparing mainstream conservatives and Christians to the Ku Klux Klan, and Rep. Jim Jordan/OH, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee was investigating them. Which included this group paying the violent groups so they could blame the aforementioned conservatives. Shame!!!
I thought I'd share this to add to yours.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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We are told to obey the Law of the Land if that doesnt conflict with the teachings and commandments of Christ, Acts 5:29, when Christ says to "Feed the Hungry and that when we do we feed him", there are no rules, no conditions, no exceptions, just love and compassion, Matthew 25: 35, and just wher5e did Christ say we are not to be a burden?, did the good samariatn say to the man in need, "You are not to be a burden?, No he saw the suffering and the need and responded with Love and compassion, "Love your Neighbour as yourself" and "Treat others as you'd want to be treated are the bedrock of our faith and to do otherwise is to build your life on the shifting sands of Human Values and not the solid rock of Christs teachings, and just where does Christ say "our own house is taken care of first", in fact in Matthew 5 40-48 Christ says " And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.", Our Love and compassion must encompass ALL equally and there is no room for prejudice based on nation
We are told to obey the law of the land if that doesnt conflict with the Commandments and teachings of Christ Acts 5:29, and when Christ says "Feed the Hungry" in Matthew 25;35 there are no exceptions, no conditions, and we are told that in feeding the hungry we are feeding christ himself and when we dont feed the hungry then we are rejecting him and will be judged accordingly, and where does Christ say "Dont be a burden", did the Good Samaritan say to the man in need, "Dont be a burden, no he responded with Love and Compassion as we are commanded to do, "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "Treat others as you'd want to be treated", and Christ said exactly the opposite to "make sure your own house is in order", for in Matthew 5 :40-48 he says " And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.", our love and compassion must encompass all regardless of Race, Nationality, religion or colour.
They are not "illegals", they are men, women, children and Babies made in the image of God and deserving of the same Justice, Love and compassion we would give to any other human being. There is no room for prejudice and discrimination in being a follower of Christ, and even if you look on them as "illegals", as some form of enemy, then Christs words in Matthew 5:43-44 should resonate with you " You have heard it said, You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy. But i say, love your enemies, bless them that curse you do good to them that hate youand pray for those that spitefully use you"
They are ALL people in need, and should be deserving of our Love and compassion whether they be, Veterans, Elderly or "Strangers", why do you seek to divide when Christs call to Love and compassion is all encompassing, there should be no distinction into catagories for we are ALL abject sinners and ALL in need of Gods Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness
I have taken in no Strangers" and probably never would, but i give money to organisations working with refugees and the homeless and campaign for their rights as people deserving of my love and Compassion. But my sin in not responding to Christs call to "Welcome the Stranger" does not negate that call, it just shows what a wretched sinner i am in dire need of his Mercy and forgiveness.
And why the emphasis on leaving them alone with your "lil children and elderly", is there a darker reasoning here?.
Yes thats very true, and as Christ said in Matthew 7 20, "wherefore by their fruits you shall know them", and i think you have to reflect just what "fruits" you are showing.
No the living God is not about "Law n Order", where that "Law n Order" is founded on an evil and corrupt system controlled by the Devil. Christ condemned the rich and powerful, those that administered the law and kept "order", he commended the poor who were oppressed by that "Law n order", he spoke of "not bringing Peace but a sword" that would turn one against another and he was crucified by the very same system of "Law n Order" you extoll. No christ turned the "law n Order" of this Evil world on its head, "the first will be last and the last will be first", blessed are the meek, the peacemakers, those that seek the righteousness of God and are persecuted for it, your blind adherence to "law n order" blinds you to the fact that in so doing you are supporting a system underpinned by the Prince of Chaos and darkness himself.
Where does Christ say anything about making our Love and compassion determinant on the actions of others, for if that was the case then we would help no one, for we are ALL miserable wretches in the sight of God, these "illegals" as you call them are people, Good, Bad and indifferent, like the rest of us, ALL groups and classes of people, ALL nationalities and races commit horrendous acts of violence and evil on others, but we are called on to "Love our Neighbour, even if we perceive them as enemies, to treat others as we'd want to be treated and to recognise that we are ALL in need of Gods grace and forgiveness.
We are indeed ALL Evil
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They are not "illegals", they are men, women, children and babies made in the image of God, and Christ made no exceptions as to whom our Love and Compassion must encompass,
our "Neighbour is anyone in need, and Welcome the Stranger is commanded in
Matthew 5 43-44
We are told to obey the law of the land if that doesnt conflict with the Commandments and teachings of Christ Acts 5:29, and when Christ says "Feed the Hungry" in Matthew 25;35 there are no exceptions, no conditions, and we are told that in feeding the hungry we are feeding christ himself and when we dont feed the hungry then we are rejecting him and will be judged accordingly, and where does Christ say "Dont be a burden", did the Good Samaritan say to the man in need, "Dont be a burden, no he responded with Love and Compassion as we are commanded to do, "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "Treat others as you'd want to be treated", and Christ said exactly the opposite to "make sure your own house is in order", for in Matthew 5 :40-48 he says " And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.", our love and compassion must encompass all regardless of Race, Nationality, religion or colour.
They are not "illegals", they are men, women, children and Babies made in the image of God and deserving of the same Justice, Love and compassion we would give to any other human being. There is no room for prejudice and discrimination in being a follower of Christ, and even if you look on them as "illegals", as some form of enemy, then Christs words in Matthew 5:43-44 should resonate with you " You have heard it said, You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy. But i say, love your enemies, bless them that curse you do good to them that hate youand pray for those that spitefully use you"
They are ALL people in need, and should be deserving of our Love and compassion whether they be, Veterans, Elderly or "Strangers", why do you seek to divide when Christs call to Love and compassion is all encompassing, there should be no distinction into catagories for we are ALL abject sinners and ALL in need of Gods Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness
I have taken in no Strangers" and probably never would, but i give money to organisations working with refugees and the homeless and campaign for their rights as people deserving of my love and Compassion. But my sin in not responding to Christs call to "Welcome the Stranger" does not negate that call, it just shows what a wretched sinner i am in dire need of his Mercy and forgiveness.
And why the emphasis on leaving them alone with your "lil children and elderly", is there a darker reasoning here?.
Yes thats very true, and as Christ said in Matthew 7 20, "wherefore by their fruits you shall know them", and i think you have to reflect just what "fruits" you are showing.
No the living God is not about "Law n Order", where that "Law n Order" is founded on an evil and corrupt system controlled by the Devil. Christ condemned the rich and powerful, those that administered the law and kept "order", he commended the poor who were oppressed by that "Law n order", he spoke of "not bringing Peace but a sword" that would turn one against another and he was crucified by the very same system of "Law n Order" you extoll. No christ turned the "law n Order" of this Evil world on its head, "the first will be last and the last will be first", blessed are the meek, the peacemakers, those that seek the righteousness of God and are persecuted for it, your blind adherence to "law n order" blinds you to the fact that in so doing you are supporting a system underpinned by the Prince of Chaos and darkness himself.
Where does Christ say anything about making our Love and compassion determinent on the actions of others, for if that was the case then we would help no one, for we are ALL miserable wretches in the sight of God, these "illegals" as you call them are people, Good, Bad and indifferent, like the rest of us, ALL groups and classes of people, ALL nationalities and races commit horrendous acts of violence and evil on others, but we are called on to "Love our Neighbour, even if we perceive them as enemies, to treat others as we'd want to be treated and to recognise that we are ALL in need of Gods grace and forgiveness.
We are indeed ALL Evil!!.
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Provide evidence that the "Right" was funded and was the cause of the protest.
"haven't heard" isn't evidence and wouldn't stand up in any court or before a judge.
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If you had read my post instead of seeing the words right and violence then you would know that I was blaming liberals. You need to be less political and filled with the Holy Spirit to be better aware of the truth.
