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Is remmariage a thing?

zeth4500

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so just to clarify im not having a moment with my wife- anyhow i come across many struggling christians online so its something i wanna become more certain in
can remarriage be done without sin? of what i recall its just if a womans husband dies, she may remarry, but then they may not be uh, intimate together
also something about.. if one is an unbeliever, then the believer is free if the unbeliever divorces them .. which doesnt really clarify whether theyre so free they can marry someone else?

many also have this idea that any kind of cheating, any kind of ... unfaithfulness, flirting with someone else makes it ok to divorce, and in the case of cheating one may leave the marriage
although, i dont see it as theyre free to remarry..? i recall scripture saying the person marrying the divorced guilty party, will be guilty of sin until they leave them again
and the one who remarries will be guilty of sin

"I say to you: whoever dismisses (repudiates, divorces) his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

one could make a stretch and say, someone who commits adultery isnt a believer, and then just call it quits and say, they were an unbeliever and then be granted special relief from the covenant since them not being a believer makes the covenant that much less serious. hm?
 
can remarriage be done without sin?

Death, adultery and complete abandonment are grounds. They are the only grounds.

many also have this idea that any kind of cheating, any kind of ... unfaithfulness, flirting with someone else makes it ok to divorce, and in the case of cheating one may leave the marriage

On adultery, scripture is crystal clear that only actual sexual immorality / actual adultery is grounds Matt 5:32. Adulterer's in the OT would be stoned to death because they actually committed adultery. Not merely for 'toying' with the idea.

although, i dont see it as theyre free to remarry..? i recall scripture saying the person marrying the divorced guilty party, will be guilty of sin until they leave them again
and the one who remarries will be guilty of sin

Yes, anyone who helps break up a marriage or marries someone not sanctified from their divorce would be upsetting God at a mortal sin level.

"I say to you: whoever dismisses (repudiates, divorces) his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

one could make a stretch and say, someone who commits adultery isnt a believer, and then just call it quits and say, they were an unbeliever and then be granted special relief from the covenant since them not being a believer makes the covenant that much less serious. hm?

True Christians can commit mortal sins. But for them, it is always a mistake. And they will repent and make right with God. Just as David did when he sinned like this.

With all the temptation to have fornication in today's culture, many good Christians fall into this. Its so sad. Scripture says it is better to try work on a marriage even if there is adultery. A Divorce is so evil. So evil!!!!

No person who broke a marriage and is unrepentant in an adulterous affair will be in heaven. You will arrive at the pearly gates and everyone in heaven will yell for you to leave. Nobody will want you as a neighbour. Nobody.
 
What if a male unbeliever for no good reason divorces a believer and marries an unbeliever. Later he becomes a believer. Should he return to the initial believer? I've heard a preacher say "the current unbelieving spouse is the legitimate spouse in God's eye". I agree but don't have biblical certainty.
 
complete abandonment
i recall that this is just old testament, which is not viable anymore since jesus came, is it not? do you recall which scripture it is? i see its corinthians .. 7.15 which speaks of unbeliever leaving the believer, which is a totally different thing than a covenant between 2 believers
"But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace."

scripture is crystal clear that only actual sexual immorality / actual adultery is grounds
yes exactly and even beyond that i dont see much of it saying the violated party can remarry, as they will still be bound to that other person .. by covenant.. although the covenant was broken

True Christians can commit mortal sins. But for them, it is always a mistake.
sure, so if someone is aware of it being a sin to marry someone divorced, and continuing to be with them, and thus, continuing to sin, then they are repentless and will not be saved

With all the temptation to have fornication in today's culture, many good Christians fall into this.
i failed it myself because me and my wife had to wait for a very long time to get married, although we wanted to marry right away. we did engage after very short time however.

Nobody will want you as a neighbour. Nobody.
amen, its wild to think that its not illegal to cheat
What if a male unbeliever for no good reason divorces a believer and marries an unbeliever. Later he becomes a believer. Should he return to the initial believer? I've heard a preacher say "the current unbelieving spouse is the legitimate spouse in God's eye". I agree but don't have biblical certainty.
ive heard of this goofy scenario before, i personally see it as, that the covenant they entered werent truly holy, so what at the time was established was never a truly christian marriage

what if however, they marry and the other converts later on? i take it that would renew the covenant to being fully holy

but then, what if one believer does something like adultery, does that not make them an unbeliever? what is the definition of an unbeliever? someone who says they believe with their talk, or someone who shows they believe with their walk??
because, at that point, as per the believer-unbeliever situation, anyone who divorces a cheater can remarry since they then testified to not being a believer by.. adultery. HM?

i personally could never forgive cheating because i made it exceptionally clear that theres zero tolerance for that, its a big decision, it doesnt just 1-2 and oops and he just landed on me completely naked, all lubed up and couldnt get up for half an hour. usually cheaters go through many tedious steps of careful planning. extra phones. extra credit cards. manipulating friends and family. most silly ive heard was a south american woman was doing it in the sewers to keep it secret

largely people agree that theres no moral justification for cheating, if you really want out you can just drop it and not violate the other person, it is, if you stretch it, essentially rape since you are one flesh, and naturally the other doesnt consent to their flesh being used with someone else
 
i recall that this is just old testament, which is not viable anymore since jesus came, is it not?
Jesus upped the ante on hate/murder, lust/adultery and divorce. I'm not sure either but also wonder about the "complete abandonment" issue in the church age.
 
What if a male unbeliever for no good reason divorces a believer and marries an unbeliever. Later he becomes a believer. Should he return to the initial believer? I've heard a preacher say "the current unbelieving spouse is the legitimate spouse in God's eye". I agree but don't have biblical certainty.

Complications like this require wisdom, careful application of Scripture, and often the counsel of spiritually mature elders.

On face value I would say no, as Paul says:

1 Corinthians 7:15 — "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases."

But knowing that one of the reasons divorce is so grievous is that a spouse, especially historically a woman in Biblical times, could be abandoned and left vulnerable, it is prudent to consider whether there remains a responsibility to help and care where appropriate.

1 Timothy 5:8 — "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
 
Another verse to consider in this matter. Abomination is a strong word.

DEUT 24:4a Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD:
 
1Co 7:12 Now, I will speak to the rest of you, though I do not have a direct command from the Lord. If a fellow believer has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to continue living with him, he must not leave her.
1Co 7:13 And if a believing woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to continue living with her, she must not leave him.
1Co 7:14 For the believing wife brings holiness to her marriage, and the believing husband brings holiness to his marriage. Otherwise, your children would not be holy, but now they are holy.
1Co 7:15 (But if the husband or wife who isn’t a believer insists on leaving, let them go. In such cases the believing husband or wife is no longer bound to the other, for God has called you to live in peace.) (NLT)
 
But knowing that one of the reasons divorce is so grievous is that a spouse, especially historically a woman in Biblical times, could be abandoned and left vulnerable, it is prudent to consider whether there remains a responsibility to help and care where appropriate.
i think this dependancy is what helped keep things going so they wouldnt be... strong and independant. of what ive heard childsupport isnt a thing in eastern european countries still and they have less divorce rates

speaking of divorce rates, i came by some data from US recently saying protestants are 51% catholics 19% and orthodox 9%

1 Timothy 5:8 — "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
sure, if you you arent in covenant, then you arent tied anymore, but surely while in relationship of bound to kids, you must supply them

DEUT 24:4a Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD:
yes OT made it quite easy, you could simply cast away your wife if you found "something unclean" in her, NT and OT are very different, polar opposites in some contexts even

1Co 7:15 (But if the husband or wife who isn’t a believer insists on leaving, let them go. In such cases the believing husband or wife is no longer bound to the other, for God has called you to live in peace.)
yea but how do you define believer, if someone causes a major sin like infidelity, can they by any means be considered a believer?
 
yea but how do you define believer,

 
yea but how do you define believer, if someone causes a major sin like infidelity, can they by any means be considered a believer?
A believer is someone who has been born again (born of the Spirit, by the Word of God)
 
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