Charlie Kirk

[Rad]

We can already see you've taken verses out of context.

So give me your context.

You make assumptions such as "desire to condem Islam" It and Muslims have done that on their own.
Let's start with your lie #1.
"worst acts in history. "Killing for Christ" became a mantra of the Crusades and all subsequent Holy wars".
Muslims were GUILTY of invading Christians lands and all that, not innocent.
There is no historical record of that phrase being used as a chant/matnra in the Crusades. What is documented:

The Mantra "Killing for Christ" is a description of the belief system of many of the Crusaders which they implemented many, many times. I have never described Muslims as "innocent", although when cities such as Antioch and Jerusalem were taken by the Crusaders the slaughter that followed was mainly of the innocents, men, women and children who had little or nothing to do with the Battles being fought. Or perhaps you regard any "enemy", combatant or non combatant as a target for slaughter.

1. Papal and clerical rhetoric emphasized “fighting for Christ” or “liberating Christ’s tomb,” not killing in His name.​

Examples from documented sources:

• Urban II’s speech at Clermont (1095) — described in various chronicles as urging Christians to defend fellow Christians and reclaim Jerusalem.
  Phrasing varies by chronicler, but none record anything like “killing for Christ.”
• Crusader slogans and battle shouts:
  • “Deus vult!” (“God wills it”)
  • “Christus vincit!” (“Christ conquers”)

So, you're either a liar or highly ignorant or real history.

So how do you think that the Crusaders were going to "fight for Christ " or Liberate Christs Tomb", with harsh words and dialogue. If you look at the people that went on Crusade many of them were Knights and their retinues, men endured to the rigours of warfare, they knew exactly what was required of them and only too willing to do it, both in the service of the Church and the acquisition of wealth and lands. Most Crusaders understood that there were great riches in the Holy land, and as a prelude to the mass slaughter and pillage in the East, slaughtered the Jews within their midst and enriching themselves of their wealth.

Eye for an eye - "The Old Testament Law of Retaliation.

1. Limit retaliation​

It prevented escalation of conflicts, a major issue in tribal societies.
Without this rule:

• One injury could lead to a cycle of revenge killingsFamilies or clans could retaliate far beyond the harm done.

“Eye for an eye” was a way to say:


That was a major ethical improvement for its time.

But as Christians ,Christ fulfilled the law with the Commandment, "You have been told an Eye for an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth but i say, do not resist evil, but whoever hits you on one cheek then offer them the other", yes i know , youre going to accuse me of taking these words "out of context", so enlighten me, what is your context for Christs words.

2. Standardize justice​

It ensured judges gave consistent, fair penalties, rather than arbitrary or overly severe punishments.

3. Primarily result in compensation, not bodily mutilation​

Rabbinic interpretation (which reflects much older practice) held that monetary compensation was typically used, not literal physical injury.
The Talmud is explicit: the verses mandate financial damages, not physical retribution (Bava Kamma 83b–84a).
Anthropologically, most ancient Near Eastern cultures—including the Code of Hammurabi—used the same language metaphorically to mean proportionate compensation.

God commanded early Christians to "kill" His enemies.

Would be interested to know where God commanded early Christians to "kill" his enemies.

Strke 2 and not looking good for you.

Love for enemies. - In essence, love first, trust conditionally as God does.
God will NOT let any unrepentant sinner into Heaven. He still loves them more than any human could but salvation and eternity with him is conditional.

I am not contesting Gods right and ability to judge everyone as he sees fit, my issue is how we are commanded to act by Christ. Do not resist evil, dont strike back, give to them that ask, is compelled to go a mile with someone, go two, Love your enemies, bless those that curse you, and on and on, this isnt just a case of "cherry picking" or taking Christs words "out of context", read the Sermon on the Mount and you will have the most radical teaching of Love, Compassion and forgiveness, thats the context,........ but you obviously think differently, so if you havent put me on "ignore" them tell me why you think that.

Your cherry picked here, out of context of course, is an example of a goal. No person can be perfect but can they work towards it. OF COURSE.

Assumption: "banish the hate you seem to feel from your Heart". I don't know any Muslims as they are repulse by us and want to kill us.
The Judge....has already spoken and spreading the Gospel includes what the Judge has said on everything.

Well if you dont know any Muslims then how do you know they are repulsed by Christians. I've met a number of Muslims, some good, some bad, some indifferent, the same cross section of humanity that comprises any group of people, not Devils incarnate intent on Destruction and domination, but then i've not met that many, but i just dont see your representation of them as being Repulsed by me and desiring my death

I've never stated, "I think...." in something regarding God and the Bible. On this problematic death cult, God has already told us how to respond. Self-presevation. Defense of others and death of the evil person if it comes to it.
God never states we should let evil go unchecked.

But thats all we have, we dont "know", any of us, we "believe", we have "faith", and we are told in our walk of Faith to walk Humbly with our God, thats why i preface many things i write with the words "believe" or "it seems", i hope i'm open minded enough to change my mind when presented with differing beliefs that contradict what i believe, because if not, then whats the point of discussing anything if we're not willing to learn what others believe and also change our minds when necessary.

CK isn't God nor is he the authority (like the Pope) in the church.
I'm not Catholic.
"you are capable of the most horrendous atrocities as evidenced throughout history" - New Flash:
SO ARE YOU.

Of course i am, i'm a great believer in the phrase "there but for the Grace of God goeth i", i often wonder what i'd have done if born in a different time, in a different culture, with a different upbringing when faced with some of the "most horrendous atrocities evidenced throughout history", i dont have the moral certainty to say i'd have stayed true to my beliefs, and even now when confronted by Evil i burn with the desire for revenge, to give back what was given, yes, an "eye for an Eye", i believe thst wrong, thats not what Christ taught, but the demons are in my Soul as they are in everyone born into Sin in this world of Greed and Hate.

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[KingJ]

So if you havent put me on "ignore", tell me your "context" of Christs words in Matthew 5 vs 38-47 because i'd be interested to know. Tell me what you think is the whole "truth", because its not just "Do not resist Evil,.....love your enemies" but also "bless them that curse you ,do good to them that hate you and pray for those that despitefully use you and persecute you" The meaning of the words and their "context" seem perfectly clear to me even though they go directly against our human instincts to hit back, to defend whats ours, to fight with whatever means we have to combat evil, And i readily admit that i cant follow these teachings, or find it very, very hard to do so, but that doesnt detract from what Christ said, and remember these words, part of the Sermon on the Mount were not said to masters of the law, to the learned, but to ordinary people,

So if youre still there, give me your "context" on these verses, and if i agree, then believe me i'll readily change my mind, because it would make my life, my discipleship an awful lot easier, as i struggle with them daily, .

Thread 'Are Christians to judge others?'

Oct 20, 2025

Many people reference Jesus' words “Judge not, that you be not judged” (Matt. 7:1) to mean that Christians should never make moral or spiritual evaluations. However, the broader teaching of Scripture shows that believers are not only permitted to judge certain matters - they're commanded to do so, but with the right heart and standard.

1. Jesus Commands Righteous Judgment

John 7:24 "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

2. Discernment Is Required of Believers

1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be...

• KingJ
• Replies: 4
• Forum: Bible Study

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[MedicBravo]

So give me your context.

The Mantra "Killing for Christ" is a description of the belief system of many of the Crusaders which they implemented many, many times. I have never described Muslims as "innocent", although when cities such as Antioch and Jerusalem were taken by the Crusaders the slaughter that followed was mainly of the innocents, men, women and children who had little or nothing to do with the Battles being fought. Or perhaps you regard any "enemy", combatant or non combatant as a target for slaughter.

So how do you think that the Crusaders were going to "fight for Christ " or Liberate Christs Tomb", with harsh words and dialogue. If you look at the people that went on Crusade many of them were Knights and their retinues, men endured to the rigours of warfare, they knew exactly what was required of them and only too willing to do it, both in the service of the Church and the acquisition of wealth and lands. Most Crusaders understood that there were great riches in the Holy land, and as a prelude to the mass slaughter and pillage in the East, slaughtered the Jews within their midst and enriching themselves of their wealth.

But as Christians ,Christ fulfilled the law with the Commandment, "You have been told an Eye for an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth but i say, do not resist evil, but whoever hits you on one cheek then offer them the other", yes i know , youre going to accuse me of taking these words "out of context", so enlighten me, what is your context for Christs words.

Would be interested to know where God commanded early Christians to "kill" his enemies.

I am not contesting Gods right and ability to judge everyone as he sees fit, my issue is how we are commanded to act by Christ. Do not resist evil, dont strike back, give to them that ask, is compelled to go a mile with someone, go two, Love your enemies, bless those that curse you, and on and on, this isnt just a case of "cherry picking" or taking Christs words "out of context", read the Sermon on the Mount and you will have the most radical teaching of Love, Compassion and forgiveness, thats the context,........ but you obviously think differently, so if you havent put me on "ignore" them tell me why you think that.



Well if you dont know any Muslims then how do you know they are repulsed by Christians. I've met a number of Muslims, some good, some bad, some indifferent, the same cross section of humanity that comprises any group of people, not Devils incarnate intent on Destruction and domination, but then i've not met that many, but i just dont see your representation of them as being Repulsed by me and desiring my death

But thats all we have, we dont "know", any of us, we "believe", we have "faith", and we are told in our walk of Faith to walk Humbly with our God, thats why i preface many things i write with the words "believe" or "it seems", i hope i'm open minded enough to change my mind when presented with differing beliefs that contradict what i believe, because if not, then whats the point of discussing anything if we're not willing to learn what others believe and also change our minds when necessary.

Of course i am, i'm a great believer in the phrase "there but for the Grace of God goeth i", i often wonder what i'd have done if born in a different time, in a different culture, with a different upbringing when faced with some of the "most horrendous atrocities evidenced throughout history", i dont have the moral certainty to say i'd have stayed true to my beliefs, and even now when confronted by Evil i burn with the desire for revenge, to give back what was given, yes, an "eye for an Eye", i believe thst wrong, thats not what Christ taught, but the demons are in my Soul as they are in everyone born into Sin in this world of Greed and Hate.

Fun fact: Given what Muslims believe and do, then that war and any "killings" of Muslims regardless of age, afrimity, pregnancy, child, etc. was just.
Listen up boys guys and ladies b/c it's teachin' time.

1. The Amalekites​

1 Samuel 15:2–3
God commands Saul, through the prophet Samuel:

“Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”

This is the clearest and most explicit command of killing every member of an ethnic group (Amalek).
This command is rooted in Exodus 17:14 and Deuteronomy 25:17–19, where God declares perpetual war against Amalek for attacking Israel during the Exodus.

2. The Canaanite Nations​

In several places, God commands Israel to drive out or destroy the peoples of Canaan. These were not always described as killing “all” of a group as explicitly as the Amalekites, but some passages come close:

Deuteronomy 20:16–18​

Regarding cities of the seven Canaanite nations:

“You shall not leave alive anything that breathes.”
“But you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites…”

Deuteronomy 7:1–2​

God commands Israel to “destroy them completely” and “show no mercy.”

Joshua 6 (Jericho)​

God commands Israel to place Jericho under ḥērem, killing every living thing except Rahab’s family.

3. Midianites (Specific Subgroup)​

Numbers 31:1–17
God commands Moses to attack Midian as judgment for leading Israel into idolatry:

“Kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman who has had intercourse with a man.”

Not every Midianite in existence was targeted—this was a particular Midianite coalition, not the entire ethnic group.

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Summary of Groups God Ordered Destroyed​

Group	Scripture	Description
Amalekites	1 Sam 15:2–3; Deut 25:17–19	Only group explicitly commanded to have every person killed.
Canaanite nations (7 groups)	Deut 7:1–2; Deut 20:16–18	Ordered to be “utterly destroyed” or “left no life breathing,” though historically some survived.
Jericho	Joshua 6	City placed under total destruction.
A specific Midianite faction	Num 31:1–17	Severe punitive command, but not the whole ethnicity.

Muslims aren't special.
If our Father God, the Almighy Creator of everything decides to "remove one ethnic group entirely" then your opinion otherwise is irrelevant.
As He did back then He used many people Christians and not, to do it.
Our priorities include fighting evil especially physical methods and that might include their "removal from the human population".
By default, Muslims are the enemy of God and Creation.

I'll remind you, you've seen it in movies and series. A child's entire family or people is killed. He/she then is permeated by a "vengeance" goal/sin that controls his/her entire life. This keeps that sin/disobedience/evil ongoing.
Therefore, what was done to those three groups as the best and only option.

 

[Rad]

Thread 'Are Christians to judge others?'

Oct 20, 2025

Many people reference Jesus' words “Judge not, that you be not judged” (Matt. 7:1) to mean that Christians should never make moral or spiritual evaluations. However, the broader teaching of Scripture shows that believers are not only permitted to judge certain matters - they're commanded to do so, but with the right heart and standard.

1. Jesus Commands Righteous Judgment

John 7:24 "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

2. Discernment Is Required of Believers

1 Corinthians 2:15 "The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be...

• KingJ
• Replies: 4
• Forum: Bible Study

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You believe you are so righteous, so free of sin ,that you can pick up that first stone and that you have so removed the "log from your eye" that you can see clearly as to where to throw that stone, ..... i on the other hand know what a miserable sinner i am, that i am not worthy to even touch that first stone let alone pick it up and that the "log" is still very much in my eye, ......... when we stand before God we'll see which one of us is vindicated.

 

[Rad]

Fun fact: Given what Muslims believe and do, then that war and any "killings" of Muslims regardless of age, afrimity, pregnancy, child, etc. was just.
Listen up boys guys and ladies b/c it's teachin' time.

1. The Amalekites​

1 Samuel 15:2–3
God commands Saul, through the prophet Samuel:

This is the clearest and most explicit command of killing every member of an ethnic group (Amalek).
This command is rooted in Exodus 17:14 and Deuteronomy 25:17–19, where God declares perpetual war against Amalek for attacking Israel during the Exodus.

2. The Canaanite Nations​

In several places, God commands Israel to drive out or destroy the peoples of Canaan. These were not always described as killing “all” of a group as explicitly as the Amalekites, but some passages come close:

Deuteronomy 20:16–18​

Regarding cities of the seven Canaanite nations:

Deuteronomy 7:1–2​

God commands Israel to “destroy them completely” and “show no mercy.”

Joshua 6 (Jericho)​

God commands Israel to place Jericho under ḥērem, killing every living thing except Rahab’s family.

3. Midianites (Specific Subgroup)​

Numbers 31:1–17
God commands Moses to attack Midian as judgment for leading Israel into idolatry:

Not every Midianite in existence was targeted—this was a particular Midianite coalition, not the entire ethnic group.

---

Summary of Groups God Ordered Destroyed​

Group	Scripture	Description
Amalekites	1 Sam 15:2–3; Deut 25:17–19	Only group explicitly commanded to have every person killed.
Canaanite nations (7 groups)	Deut 7:1–2; Deut 20:16–18	Ordered to be “utterly destroyed” or “left no life breathing,” though historically some survived.
Jericho	Joshua 6	City placed under total destruction.
A specific Midianite faction	Num 31:1–17	Severe punitive command, but not the whole ethnicity.

Muslims aren't special.
If our Father God, the Almighy Creator of everything decides to "remove one ethnic group entirely" then your opinion otherwise is irrelevant.
As He did back then He used many people Christians and not, to do it.
Our priorities include fighting evil especially physical methods and that might include their "removal from the human population".
By default, Muslims are the enemy of God and Creation.

I'll remind you, you've seen it in movies and series. A child's entire family or people is killed. He/she then is permeated by a "vengeance" goal/sin that controls his/her entire life. This keeps that sin/disobedience/evil ongoing.
Therefore, what was done to those three groups as the best and only option.

theres no "teachin" to be had from you, just a litany of Hate ,Prejudice and Self righteousness clothed in OT texts. Are you a Christian or not. do you follow the teachings of Christ or not?, if you claim to be a Christian, a follower of Christ , then take on what he said, cleanse your soul of the Hate and intolerance, read and understand "The Sermon on the Mount", the blueprint for a Christian life, cause theres some real "Teachin" to be had there, not your squalid justifications for Genocide.

 

[KingJ]

You believe you are so righteous, so free of sin ,that you can pick up that first stone and that you have so removed the "log from your eye" that you can see clearly as to where to throw that stone, ..... i on the other hand know what a miserable sinner i am, that i am not worthy to even touch that first stone let alone pick it up and that the "log" is still very much in my eye, ......... when we stand before God we'll see which one of us is vindicated.

I feel your brain has gone into sleep mode. Imagine thinking God be ok with a lawless society as ''we all have logs in our eyes''.

You need to attend bible study classes. Meditate and read 1 Cor 6:1-9 and 1 Cor 5 a couple of times.

 

[Rad]

I feel your brain has gone into sleep mode. Imagine thinking God be ok with a lawless society as ''we all have logs in our eyes''.

You need to attend bible study classes. Meditate and read 1 Cor 6:1-9 and 1 Cor 5 a couple of times.

Are you a Christian or not?, do you try to follow the teachings of Christ or not?, do you understand that you are a wretched sinner or do you consider yourself so free of sin that you can indeed pick up that first stone?,......... and we agree on something, we do indeed ALL have Logs in our eyes, , so carry on reading Matthew 7 and try to understand what Christ actually said and not what your human "intellect" is telling you he meant, for the difference between the 2 is often vast. I find this often amongst some "Christians", when the message becomes too challenging or uncomfortable they have to "interpret" what Christ actually meant, sort of "well i know he said this, but actually what he meant was......",its the way we justify all of our petty hates and prejudices, all of our squalid, mean spirited wants and desires, but perhaps you just cant see it, perhaps your eyes are closed, your ears are dull of hearing and your heart indeed is "waxed gross", if thats the case then i pray that your eyes will be opened, your ears unblocked and that you should understand with your heart, be converted and that Christ will indeed heal you.

 

[KingJ]

Are you a Christian or not?, do you try to follow the teachings of Christ or not?, do you understand that you are a wretched sinner or do you consider yourself so free of sin that you can indeed pick up that first stone?,......... and we agree on something, we do indeed ALL have Logs in our eyes, , so carry on reading Matthew 7 and try to understand what Christ actually said and not what your human "intellect" is telling you he meant, for the difference between the 2 is often vast. I find this often amongst some "Christians", when the message becomes too challenging or uncomfortable they have to "interpret" what Christ actually meant, sort of "well i know he said this, but actually what he meant was......",its the way we justify all of our petty hates and prejudices, all of our squalid, mean spirited wants and desires, but perhaps you just cant see it, perhaps your eyes are closed, your ears are dull of hearing and your heart indeed is "waxed gross", if thats the case then i pray that your eyes will be opened, your ears unblocked and that you should understand with your heart, be converted and that Christ will indeed heal you.

You post the same nonsense in every post. You do not want to learn. I suspect you are an alphabet person who wants to hold to that line from Jesus with all you have. Bastardising it's meaning to support living in sin. You are making three mistakes and each of them are massive.

1. Cherry picking a line out of its context. Jesus ensured He added "go and sin no more' and He saw her heart. He did not see someone beyond hope. He was not prompted to be violent and aggressive with her as He was with the Pharisees.

2. Failing at hermeneutics. You have not bothered to read the passages or thread I gave you. You cannot push a line in isolation to other scripture. That is pushing a half truth, something the devil does Matt 4.

3. False teaching. By teaching that nobody can cast a stone as we all sin, you encourage those who battle with sin to stay in it. If the adulterer did not listen to Jesus when He said "go and sin no more", he would not have stopped a stoning or something similar.

1 Tim 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.

 

[Twistie]

You post the same nonsense in every post. You do not want to learn. I suspect you are an alphabet person who wants to hold to that line from Jesus with all you have. Bastardising it's meaning to support living in sin. You are making three mistakes and each of them are massive.

1. Cherry picking a line out of its context. Jesus ensured He added "go and sin no more' and He saw her heart. He did not see someone beyond hope. He was not prompted to be violent and aggressive with her as He was with the Pharisees.

2. Failing at hermeneutics. You have not bothered to read the passages or thread I gave you. You cannot push a line in isolation to other scripture. That is pushing a half truth, something the devil does Matt 4.

3. False teaching. By teaching that nobody can cast a stone as we all sin, you encourage those who battle with sin to stay in it. If the adulterer did not listen to Jesus when He said "go and sin no more", he would not have stopped a stoning or something similar.

1 Tim 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.

Perhaps he only believes partial bible

FOR HIS NAME'S SAKE” He lead me in the paths of righteousness..

How does one claim they are wretched if one is truly filled with the Spirit of the Lord is what I question.

He seems to believe in only the Love bug god I believe a mushy one who don't believe in order. He seems to think one should not be held responsible for their actions in this world..that a sadistic murder should be looked at like an a regular person who happen to take food cause of hunger .
If this is true it's very sad n quite disturbing..
I had a young man tell me the other day that both thief's by the Messiah that was crucified was both forgiven and both went with the Lord to the Kingdom of God.. Because God is love..
It's written tho..
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Seems many have fallen for a blind preacher or leader or what ever the flavor of the month should be..


Hope all's well..
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[KingJ]

Perhaps he only believes partial bible

FOR HIS NAME'S SAKE” He lead me in the paths of righteousness..

How does one claim they are wretched if one is truly filled with the Spirit of the Lord is what I question.

He seems to believe in only the Love bug god I believe a mushy one who don't believe in order. He seems to think one should not be held responsible for their actions in this world..that a sadistic murder should be looked at like an a regular person who happen to take food cause of hunger .
If this is true it's very sad n quite disturbing..
I had a young man tell me the other day that both thief's by the Messiah that was crucified was both forgiven and both went with the Lord to the Kingdom of God.. Because God is love..
It's written tho..
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Seems many have fallen for a blind preacher or leader or what ever the flavor of the month should be..


Hope all's well..
(⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦⁠)

I have heard the same type of nonsense repeatedly on other sites. All the ''Christian'' alphabet people cling to John 8:7 with all they have to the exclusion of all other scripture.

Dare you provide them with 1 Tim 5:20, Rom 6:23 the wages of sin is death and Matt 25:46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

The A-Z of their MO is to blanket all as sinners and nobody as righteous.

 

[joestue]

for what its worth i'm thinking Erika kirk knew all along what was going to happen.

 

[Rad]

Firstly we are ALL sinners and no one is righteous, come on please, thats basic Christian understanding, or do you regard yourselves as "Righteous" and without sin, yeh from your posts you probably do, its a common trait of those that regard themselves as having the "truth" and can look down on those whose sin they so readily condemn. But what of your sins, for you have sold your Soul to a political idealogy that is led by a man driven by Greed, self aggrandisement and a Lust for power, like Jesus being tempted by the Devil you have bowed down and worshipped Earthly power and clothed it in a self righteous pretence of faith, and like the Devil you are a master at quoting verse but without the understanding of the inner meaning of Christs teachings, it is pitiful and i'm not sure whether you truly cant see that you are following blindly a false prophet or whether you fully understand the corrupt nature of what youre doing but continue to do so for the sake of expediency in fulfilling your view of what Christs teachings should have been rather that what they actually are. "Well hath Isiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written. These people honoureth me with their lips but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men". You seek to justify your belief in the death penalty and the words of Charlie Kirk through your own twisted perversion of Christs words because thats what you believe and not what Christ taught and as such you are truly lost and i pray that you will have your eyes opened to the Truth of Christs message of Love and Compassion and that Judgement is Gods prerogative and not ours. There is no more to say, for we will never agree, you are truly the blind following the blind and as such if you dont open your eyes then you will fall into that ditch of eternal damnation.

 

[MedicBravo]

If you've been watching Erika just days after he was killed, you can see a change in her.
A truly griefing wife does NOT go on a book tour a month later.
A truly Christian woman does NOT wear what she does coupled wth those gaudy rings.
A woman telling the truth looks at who she speaking to.
A tell of a LIAR is one who looks "up and away" shen she's telling a lie.

I don't have the quote but she's stated the "fireworks" at her appearances are going to be a permanent thing. Pride. Self-centeredness. Ego.

More of ya'll need to STOP making snap assumptions and conclusions when you don't have all the evidence on anything.
Especially with the lesbian that got herself killed recently.

 

[Gerbolski]

I personally do find fishy things have gone out via how Charlie was killed, I do not have the details, but something does not add up.

All I know is that TPUSA is headed in a bad direction, an ecumenical direction, and they have a varied of speakers, which in some cases, some that are not even believers, speaking about the principals of the bible as if they were, and a confusing message is coming out of TPUSA.

A compromised message.

 

[Twistie]

I personally do find fishy things have gone out via how Charlie was killed, I do not have the details, but something does not add up.

All I know is that TPUSA is headed in a bad direction, an ecumenical direction, and they have a varied of speakers, which in some cases, some that are not even believers, speaking about the principals of the bible as if they were, and a confusing message is coming out of TPUSA.

A compromised message.

I found it horrifying about that murder tent she set up n then charged people to have their pics taken in it..

for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Hope all's well

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[KingJ]

Firstly we are ALL sinners and no one is righteous, come on please, thats basic Christian understanding, or do you regard yourselves as "Righteous" and without sin, yeh from your posts you probably do, its a common trait of those that regard themselves as having the "truth" and can look down on those whose sin they so readily condemn. But what of your sins, for you have sold your Soul to a political idealogy that is led by a man driven by Greed, self aggrandisement and a Lust for power, like Jesus being tempted by the Devil you have bowed down and worshipped Earthly power and clothed it in a self righteous pretence of faith, and like the Devil you are a master at quoting verse but without the understanding of the inner meaning of Christs teachings, it is pitiful and i'm not sure whether you truly cant see that you are following blindly a false prophet or whether you fully understand the corrupt nature of what youre doing but continue to do so for the sake of expediency in fulfilling your view of what Christs teachings should have been rather that what they actually are. "Well hath Isiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written. These people honoureth me with their lips but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me , teaching for doctrines the commandments of men". You seek to justify your belief in the death penalty and the words of Charlie Kirk through your own twisted perversion of Christs words because thats what you believe and not what Christ taught and as such you are truly lost and i pray that you will have your eyes opened to the Truth of Christs message of Love and Compassion and that Judgement is Gods prerogative and not ours. There is no more to say, for we will never agree, you are truly the blind following the blind and as such if you dont open your eyes then you will fall into that ditch of eternal damnation.

Error 1 - ''Firstly we are ALL sinners and no one is righteous''

Christians are not active sinners and they are made righteous to God by the sacrifice of Jesus. Christians have sin but are not sinners. They make a 'mistake' of sin and do not live in sin. Any actively living in sin are enroute to hell and are most certainly not a Christian.

Rom 6:1-2 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

1 Cor 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Heb 10:14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

Error 2 - ''Christs teachings should have been rather that what they actually are''

As stated in point 2 of post #188, we know the meaning of a line by considering it in context of all related scripture. Cherry picking words and lines is how you arrive at satanic / Matt 4 type teaching ''scripture says - jump, angels will catch you''.

Error 3 - ''Death penalty - not what Christ taught ''

You cannot take a single line from Jesus to a woman in adultery as the A-Z of His thoughts on the matter. The whole bible is the inspired word of God. You have been given numerous examples in the NT of the importance of upholding the law and making an example of mortal sinners in order that there be a real fear of sin and God's punishment on sinners.

Error 4 - ''Christs message of Love and Compassion and that Judgement is Gods prerogative and not ours''

Our sentence of a death penalty has nothing to do with the greater judgement and punishment that will be eternal. That judgement and punishment is something only God can do Jer 17:9-11.

If you are coming unstuck with a quick death by firing squad, I wonder what your thoughts are on Jesus ordaining eternal punishment in hell for unrepentant sinners?

Matt 25:46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

Error 5 - ''If don't open your eyes then you will fall into that ditch of eternal damnation''.

You believe that if I agree with the death penalty of a mortal sinner I will go to eternal hell? Well I guess God the Son has a lot of disagreements with God the Father as God of the OT ordained a graphic and violent death b stoning for every single Jew guilty of mortal sin.

We are told to HATE what is evil and CLING to what is good Rom 12:9.

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Conclusion:

I agree that we should not advocate the death penalty for all who commit mortal sins. Jesus recognized the possibility of repentance and redemption even in the adulterer, and we should extend that same hope to those guilty of mortal sin today. However, I also maintain that certain mortal sins are so grievous that, in order to preserve a functioning and moral society, the perpetrators must face exemplary and serious punishment.