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Sue J Love

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Jesus’ Treatment of Women

As far as I know, from what I read in the New Testament, Jesus always treated women with high honor and respect. He never talked down to a woman or treated any woman as though she was less valuable than a man, with maybe one exception.

As recorded in Matthew 15:21-28, it appears that Jesus’ seemingly harsh words to a Gentile woman were not meant in unkindness, but that they were meant to test her faith, and to lead her to stand up for what she believed, too. And then he honored her for her faith, which he said was “great faith.”

And when other men took advantage of women, for evil purposes, or when they mocked or criticized them, Jesus stood up for the women, and he protected them. And he cared about their needs, and he ministered to them, and he honored their faith. And, if he did rebuke them, he was loving and gentle in his rebuke. He was always tender with them, compassionate and loving. And he used women to share the gospel with men, too.

[John 8:1-11; Luke 7:36-50; Matthew 26:6-13; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 10:38-42; John 2:1-11; John 4:1-42; John 20:11-18.]

In fact, In Luke 7 we read that a Pharisee invited Jesus to eat with him at his house. When a woman who had a reputation heard he was there, she came there and she anointed his feet with ointment, and wet them with her tears, and wiped them with her hair, and caressed them with her kisses.

When the Pharisee disapproved of the woman, Jesus rebuked him. But what he said to the Pharisee was for the encouragement of the woman, as well. For, what Jesus said to the Pharisee is that everything that he should have done for Jesus, but did not do, the woman did do. For, he said, “she loved much.” And, he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

And we read in Luke 8:1-3 that some women even traveled with Jesus and the disciples, too, and that they helped provide for Jesus’ and the disciples’ needs out of their own means.

I am assuming that the women made things which they sold for money, and that out of their earnings that they helped provide for Jesus and his disciples in the work of the ministry. So, they were co-laborers with Jesus and with his twelve male disciples in the ministry.

Your Daughters Shall Prophesy

And, when the Scriptures teach on the gifts of the Spirit, they do not differentiate between men and women, i.e. that some gifts are not for women. In fact, in Acts 2:17-18 we read:

“And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.”


So, why is it then that we have these teachings in the New Testament that sound as though women are to always remain silent, that they are not to speak in the gatherings of the church, without exception? (1 Corinthians 14:34-35; 1 Timothy 2:11-12). Doesn’t that seem contradictory to how Jesus treated women? And isn’t it contradictory to the passage in Acts 2, and to other New Testament scriptures that speak of women prophesying?

And why is it that so many church congregations, at least here in America, do not allow their women to prophecy (preach) in their gatherings? And some pastors treat women as though they are dirt under their feet for them to walk on? For, Jesus never treated a woman like that. He valued women, and he used women in ministry, and he even sent women out to share the gospel with men. And the Holy Spirit of God gifted women to prophesy. So, why would God then turn around and put the smack down on women?

And, why, then would the Scriptures talk about how we are all one body in Christ, and that we are all necessary, and that one part should not say to another, “We have no need of you!”? And why would it teach that the body grows and builds itself up in love and in the faith as “each part” does its work? And then tell our women that their part, which God gave to them, and for which he gifted them, is not permitted? Is the church then not suppressing the gifts of women?

How can we resolve these seeming contradictions? Is it possible that these passages on the silence of women in the church can have another plausible explanation other than the complete and total suppression of the gift of prophecy among the women in the church? And, if so, what might that be?

For, women obviously prophesied in New Testament times (See: Luke 2:36; Acts 2:17; Acts 21:9; 1 Corinthians 11:5). So, how are we to understand this restriction of the silence of women in the church if God poured out his Spirit on both men and women so that they could prophesy, and we have recorded in the New Testament that there were indeed women who did prophesy? What is the context? What is the purpose of the restriction?

The Context Reveals

Well, the context of 1 Corinthians 14 is that of teaching on spiritual gifts, teaching on love, and instructions regarding the misuse of the gifts and the right way in which the gifts are to be used, and regarding their purpose, too. So, this is in the context of 1 Corinthians 12 and 13, also.

And it is in 1 Corinthians 12 where we are taught that each body part is necessary, and that we are not to say to another part of the body that we have no need of him or of her. And it is God who decides who gets what part, too. And it is the Holy Spirit who assigns the gifts.

And, here in 1 Corinthians 14 we are told first off to pursue love, and to earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that we would prophesy. And the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding, consolation and encouragement. The one who prophesies edifies other believers, for the spiritual growth and advancement of them in the faith. He or she inspires, cheers, urges, nurtures, promotes and fosters spiritual maturity and holy walks in the Spirit of God, too, which is consistent with Ephesians 4:15-16.

So, if both women and men are gifted with the gift of prophecy, and we women are to use the gifts of the Spirit given to us for the upbuilding and the encouragement of the body of Christ, his church; and if not one of us is to say to another “We have no need of you,” and if all the parts are necessary, and women did prophesy in the New Testament, and the body of Christ is built up in the faith as “each part” does its work, then we have to conclude that these instructions on the silencing of women have a meaning other than the absolute silence of women in the church.

Order and Submission

So, again, let’s look at the context. The context has to do with how gifts are used, and it has to do with the order in which they are used. And, then let’s look at the wording of the passage, too. For, it all comes down to submission. It says that a woman, if she has questions regarding something she wants to learn, that she should ask her husband at home. So, apparently women were interrupting the order of service to ask questions. And some of this is definitely cultural to that day and time.

It also appears, by the context, that these women were usurping authority over the men, for it clearly instructs them that they are to be in submission to their husbands, and to the leadership of the church, and it indicates that they were stepping out of that order by speaking in the church gatherings in a disruptive way. So, these women were out of order in what they were doing.

And the passage in 1 Timothy 2 supports this, that women are not to usurp authority over the men, and that they are not to instruct men in an authoritative manner which would require men to obey them.

So, in conclusion, I believe God has gifted both men and women in various ways, and that Scripturally both men and women are gifted with the gift of prophecy (preaching), which is for the edification and encouragement of the body of Christ and for their strengthening and nurturing of them in the faith, that they may all reach maturity in Christ Jesus, their Lord.

I believe Jesus values women highly, that he gifts them in ministry, and that he calls them to prophesy (preach) the truths of Scriptures so that the body of Christ might be drawn closer to their Lord in walks of faith, and so that they may not wander off from the faith to go after what is false. I also believe that our Lord uses women sometimes in areas usually assigned to men, but that he does so when so many men are spiritually AWOL, and they are neglecting their callings (See Luke 7:36-50 as illustrative of this).

Lastly, I believe it all comes down to submission to the authorities within the church. If women are given permission to speak, and it is done in proper order, and if it is done in the right way, for the upbuilding of the body of Christ, then they should be allowed to speak. But they are not to usurp authority over the men nor to cause a disturbance in the congregation, and they are not to instruct men in the sense of being over men in authority. But they are to remain in submission and in proper order, and then they can speak as they are called upon to speak, as God gifts them to speak.

[Acts 2:14-18,42-47; Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:15-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20]

Have Thine Own Way, Lord

Words by Adelaide A. Pollard, 1907
Music by George C. Stebbins, 1907


Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Thou art the potter, I am the clay.
Mold me and make me after Thy will,
While I am waiting, yielded and still.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Search me and try me, Master, today!
Whiter than snow, Lord, wash me just now,
As in Thy presence humbly I bow.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Wounded and weary, help me I pray!
Power, all power, surely is Thine!
Touch me and heal me, Savior divine!

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Hold o'er my being absolute sway.
Fill with Thy Spirit till all shall see
Christ only, always, living in me!


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Women in Ministry
An Original Work / August 4, 2019
Reposted on November 7, 2025
(with slight editing)
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
 
Lucy Peppiatt is a good theologian to read. You're absolutely right. The church is full of power hungry, abusive men who like to pass off their mysogyny as theology. They just show case their ignorance as well as their inflated egos. That kind of ideology ruins lives, churches and marriages. Its time we all called time on ' male headship' in favour of being Christ like. Some male will provably prove the point by responding with gender based insults and a Bible verse.
 
Lucy Peppiatt is a good theologian to read. You're absolutely right. The church is full of power hungry, abusive men who like to pass off their mysogyny as theology. They just show case their ignorance as well as their inflated egos. That kind of ideology ruins lives, churches and marriages. Its time we all called time on ' male headship' in favour of being Christ like. Some male will provably prove the point by responding with gender based insults and a Bible verse.
I reread what I posted, and I did not say anything about the church being "full of power hungry abusive men who like to pass off their mysogyny as theology," etc. I did not mention theology at all, in fact. What I talked about is what the Scriptures teach on this subject and how it is to be understood and applied in our lives today based on how Jesus perceived and treated women, and based on a broader scope of the teachings on the gifts of the Spirit and the body of Christ and how we are all to function. Women are still not to be the heads, but the men who are the heads are to be Christlike, and they are to have the biblical qualifications listed for us in the Scriptures for men who serve as overseers, elders, and deacons.
 
Messiah didn't say woman can not minister they can go to the sick Minister go to the children and Minister go to the younger woman n minister go to older n minister what He says is woman can not lead man..
As for the prophesizing in the "church" as many call it many are still following in mans traditional ways n very very few gather as we should..
If we did one would understand more why the woman stay silent n it's not a bad thing or a degrading thing just ask the Lord to reveal to you why n ya probably be pretty astounded I know I was .

But any who hope all's well

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Messiah didn't say woman can not minister they can go to the sick Minister go to the children and Minister go to the younger woman n minister go to older n minister what He says is woman can not lead man..
As for the prophesizing in the "church" as many call it many are still following in mans traditional ways n very very few gather as we should..
If we did one would understand more why the woman stay silent n it's not a bad thing or a degrading thing just ask the Lord to reveal to you why n ya probably be pretty astounded I know I was .

But any who hope all's well

ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ
Twistie, Yes, women are not to be in authority over men. But both men and women can prophesy (preach the word of God). You can preach (proclaim) the word of God and not be in authority over anyone. God gifted us the same. And he called all of us to preach the gospel and to encourage one another in the body of Christ in our walks of obedience to the Lord. Jesus used women to be the first to share the gospel of Jesus resurrection with men. Jesus used a woman to share the gospel with the people of her town. So, go back and read the Scriptures posted and mentioned, and I believe you will see the broader scope of this. Thank you for reading and for responding. Much appreciated.
 
Twistie, Yes, women are not to be in authority over men. But both men and women can prophesy (preach the word of God). You can preach (proclaim) the word of God and not be in authority over anyone. God gifted us the same. And he called all of us to preach the gospel and to encourage one another in the body of Christ in our walks of obedience to the Lord. Jesus used women to be the first to share the gospel of Jesus resurrection with men. Jesus used a woman to share the gospel with the people of her town. So, go back and read the Scriptures posted and mentioned, and I believe you will see the broader scope of this. Thank you for reading and for responding. Much appreciated.
No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you.
But I have understanding as well as you; I am not inferior to you: yea, who knoweth not such things as these

Hope all's well

ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ
 
Woman can NOT be pastors and teach/lead men in the Christian church. End of discussion.

The Bible clearly states the requirements for "Pastor" and is in male definitive language. A woman can NOT be "A husband of one wife...."
This idea that "wahmans can do errrything! Girl Boss!" is societal garbage.

Women can teach other men.
NEVER share in front of the pastoral lecturn.
A pastor's wife is NOT an extension of the pastoral office.
If she pursues being a pastor, then HE has failed and she has moreso inviolation of her duties.
Any "church" that has female pastors or in authority over men is not one of God.
 
Woman can NOT be pastors and teach/lead men in the Christian church. End of discussion.

The Bible clearly states the requirements for "Pastor" and is in male definitive language. A woman can NOT be "A husband of one wife...."
This idea that "wahmans can do errrything! Girl Boss!" is societal garbage.

Women can teach other men.
NEVER share in front of the pastoral lecturn.
A pastor's wife is NOT an extension of the pastoral office.
If she pursues being a pastor, then HE has failed and she has moreso inviolation of her duties.
Any "church" that has female pastors or in authority over men is not one of God.
Did you actually read what I wrote? I never said anything about women being pastors. I made it clear that women are not to have authority over men. I said women are not to teach (instruct) men in authority over men. But God called both men and women to prophesy (preach; proclaim the word of God).
 
Woman can NOT be pastors and teach/lead men in the Christian church. End of discussion.

The Bible clearly states the requirements for "Pastor" and is in male definitive language. A woman can NOT be "A husband of one wife...."
This idea that "wahmans can do errrything! Girl Boss!" is societal garbage.

Women can teach other men.
NEVER share in front of the pastoral lecturn.
A pastor's wife is NOT an extension of the pastoral office.
If she pursues being a pastor, then HE has failed and she has moreso inviolation of her duties.
Any "church" that has female pastors or in authority over men is not one of God.
"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." (Ephesians 4:11-16 NASB1995)

The phrase "work of service" means "work of ministry."

Helps Word Studies: "For the believer, 1248 /diakonía ("ministry") specifically refers to Spirit-empowered service guided by faith (4102 /pístis, "the Lord's inbirthed persuasion")."

We as the body of Christ are all to be ministers of the gospel and we are all to be ministering to one another within the body of Christ. And the pastors are to be equipping the people for the work of the ministry. And then they should be providing opportunities for the Christians to do the work of the ministry in using the gifts of the Spirit God has given to them in their God-appointed body parts. We are all necessary to the proper working of the body of Christ, as each part does its work.
 
"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." (Ephesians 4:11-16 NASB1995)

The phrase "work of service" means "work of ministry."

Helps Word Studies: "For the believer, 1248 /diakonía ("ministry") specifically refers to Spirit-empowered service guided by faith (4102 /pístis, "the Lord's inbirthed persuasion")."

We as the body of Christ are all to be ministers of the gospel and we are all to be ministering to one another within the body of Christ. And the pastors are to be equipping the people for the work of the ministry. And then they should be providing opportunities for the Christians to do the work of the ministry in using the gifts of the Spirit God has given to them in their God-appointed body parts. We are all necessary to the proper working of the body of Christ, as each part does its work.
“If a man desires the office of overseer…” (1 Timothy 3:1)
“The husband of one wife…” (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6)

Paul also addresses church authority and teaching directly:
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she must remain quiet.”
1 Timothy 2:12
The immediate context (verses 11–15) grounds this not in culture or local custom but in creation order:
“For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.”
1 Timothy 2:13–14
Paul's teaching was theological, not cultural.
On that, Deacon(ess) and Prophet are not authority in the Church.
God brought Eve TO Adam not vice versa.

There is an order in all Christian groups and as such women are to do theirs and NOT try to where men are given by God.
 
“If a man desires the office of overseer…” (1 Timothy 3:1)
“The husband of one wife…” (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6)

Paul also addresses church authority and teaching directly:

The immediate context (verses 11–15) grounds this not in culture or local custom but in creation order:

Paul's teaching was theological, not cultural.
On that, Deacon(ess) and Prophet are not authority in the Church.
God brought Eve TO Adam not vice versa.

There is an order in all Christian groups and as such women are to do theirs and NOT try to where men are given by God.
And I am not contradicting that. I stated clearly that women are not to be in authority over men and they are not to instruct men in a position of authority over men. But women are gifted equally of the Spirit in Spiritual gifts and including the gift of prophesy (preaching, proclaiming the truths of the Scriptures). So they need to be given opportunity within the body of Christ to exercise those gifts of the Spirit given them by God, under the proper biblical authority structure. For we are not to say to one part of the body that we have no need of them. And all the body parts are necessary to the proper working of the body.

For example, on this Christian based website both men and women are given permission to speak, but we are all under the authority of the leadership of this website. But none of us participants are in a position of instructing anyone in a position of authority over anyone. We are given the freedom to share what we are being taught by God or to ask questions, etc, but all of this is still under the authority of the people in authority here. So why is it that women are not given the same opportunity within probably most of the gatherings of the church? So we have to come to the internet to use the gifts given us by God.

If in these last days God’s sons and daughters will prophesy (preach, proclaim the word of God to the people), then they need to be given a place to do that, not in any position of instructing anyone in any authority over anyone, but under submission to those over them, just like I am on this site. I have been given permission here to speak, but I am under the authority of the leadership here and I am in submission to their authority. But if the authority here says that I cannot share the truth of the Biblical gospel and that I must water it down to make it more acceptable to human flesh, then I would respectfully have to decline and to go someplace else. I would not remain and go against the authority structure, and I could not compromise biblical truth.
 
still under the authority of the people in authority here.
Only if they too are knowledgeable.
God put the hierarchy in the church. It is the people who have a problem with it.
So why is it that women are not given the same opportunity within probably most of the gatherings of the church?
I've been to few churches where women in groups like "Women's Ministry", Sunday Bible School and others are teaching but not of men and they didn't have a problem with it.
Women see these "Wahman Pastors" and they get jealous.
They've been told/taught by someone else they can. Girl Boss!

God has already spoken on everything including prophesy that hasn't happened.
When men and women used to prophesy and work together more in the open has been gone for a long time.
Its resurgence is another factual inference that those times will return. Jesus will restore order.
I know there is a Women's only group just as there's a Men's only group.
I'm sure no one is suggesting women ONLY stay in their group and can't ask questions.

A Christian woman here that has a problem with God's order needs to be re-educated and corrected. If she refuses on this matter, she has a problem with God.
 
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