Universities Offer Blasphemous “Queer Bible” Courses

[Garee]

Seriously, learn your scripture.

Jesus gave Peter the authority of His church. It is in the Scripture.

God is not a man us.

Satan is the one spirits of lies that works in the antichrists (legion) Antichrists which is simply another authority other than all things written in the law and prophets sola scriptura

Diablo gave his lying authority to Peter as a false teacher, false apostles . . . bringing the oral tradition of the dying fathers. Empowered by the devil Peter rebuked our Holy Father and forbid Jesu the Son of man from demonstrating the power of the Holy Father. (Mathew 16). Peter was forgiven again and again for his blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus .

Satan continued to use Peter a previous sign and wonder seeker like Nicodemus demanding a signs to wonder, wonder, wonder after before they believe. The sign and wonder seekers made Jesus the Son of man into a circus seal. saying ; Work some magic perform a miracle then when we see with our own eyes we will believe for a half a second

Three is used to denote the end of a matter. Lucifer used Peter as a serail denier three times in order to reveal those who seek after "I heard it through the father's grapevine. . . oral traditions of dying mankind" .

Peter our brother in the Lord who was just again forgiven of his blasphemy against the son of man Jesus when he denied Christ in front of three little girls. In his jealousy of John, he decided to be a hero went to town and falsely prophesied the Jesus said John flesh would never die

The Holy Father Christ gave words to His prophet, apostle Jesus the Son of man informing the born-again believers, (no limbo or purgatory) if every time an oral tradition of dying mankind was exposed as a lie, we would need a bigger planet to hold the volumes upon volumes and volume of lying signs to wonder after as if true prophecy .(sola scriptura)

Sola scriptura has been sealed up with seven seals until the end of time .

I say, why wonder, wonder, wonder rather than believe prophecy?

John21:20-25;Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?;Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do?Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.;Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.;And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

 

[Kermos]

Seriously, learn your scripture.

Jesus gave Peter the authority of His church. It is in the Scripture.

Hello Bill,

You answered @MedicBravo's post two times, but you neglected to respond to post #16, so please visit and respond.

Here is the Roman Catholic Church's passage that underscores your claim to the pope holding a so-called office of Peter:

13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." 20 Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.
(Matthew 16:13-20)
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First, "peter" means "pebble", not rock, so the rock is Christ Himself for the Word of God declares earlier "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock" (Matthew 7:24-25).

Second, Lord Jesus did not say "I will give to you only the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you alone bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever exclusively you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." in Matthew 16:16, and the absence of exclusivity to Peter is reinforced for the Christ declares to His disciples a little later that "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven" (Matthew 18:18).

Third, Lord Jesus Christ did not say that He gave Peter authority over the church, there, in fact, the Word of God makes clear "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:25-28).

Do you believe the Word of God?

Love,
Kermos

 

[Garee]

Hello Bill,

You answered @MedicBravo's post two times, but you neglected to respond to post #16, so please visit and respond.

Here is the Roman Catholic Church's passage that underscores your claim to the pope holding a so-called office of Peter:

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13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." 20 Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.​

(Matthew 16:13-20)​

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First, "peter" means "pebble", not rock, so the rock is Christ Himself for the Word of God declares earlier "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock" (Matthew 7:24-25).

Second, Lord Jesus did not say "I will give to you only the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you alone bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever exclusively you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." in Matthew 16:16, and the absence of exclusivity to Peter is reinforced for the Christ declares to His disciples a little later that "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven" (Matthew 18:18).

Third, Lord Jesus Christ did not say that He gave Peter authority over the church, there, in fact, the Word of God makes clear "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:25-28).

Do you believe the Word of God?

Love,
Kermos

Amen

Satan working in Peter an antichrist. . . "another teaching authority other than sola scriptura" He is shown beginning in 11. Peter not understanding the series of parables

Mathew 16:11-12 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.;

Being without parables Chrst spoke not He gave them the understanding hid in parables then in a hope they would learn how to trust the unseen things of Christ.

He tested Peter the serial denier , Who do you say is the Christ and not who does the church say is the invisible Christ . Christ working in Peter gave him the answer; you the Holy Spirit called Christ working in Jesus the Son of man requesting who is the Christ ?. Declaring flesh and blood has not revealed the living will of the Holy Father .to include Peter own or that of the flesh and blood of the Son on man Jesus .

God is eternal Spirit not Jewish dying mankind

Mathew 16:13-19 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?;And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.; He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?;And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.; And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.;And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock (statement of faith the unseen things of the Holy Father) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.(Not flesh and blood Peter) And I will give unto thee the keys (gospel) of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 

[Bill]

Hello Bill,

You answered @MedicBravo's post two times, but you neglected to respond to post #16, so please visit and respond.

Here is the Roman Catholic Church's passage that underscores your claim to the pope holding a so-called office of Peter:

13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." 20 Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.
(Matthew 16:13-20)
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First, "peter" means "pebble", not rock, so the rock is Christ Himself for the Word of God declares earlier "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock" (Matthew 7:24-25).

Second, Lord Jesus did not say "I will give to you only the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you alone bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever exclusively you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." in Matthew 16:16, and the absence of exclusivity to Peter is reinforced for the Christ declares to His disciples a little later that "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven" (Matthew 18:18).

Third, Lord Jesus Christ did not say that He gave Peter authority over the church, there, in fact, the Word of God makes clear "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many" (Matthew 20:25-28).

Do you believe the Word of God?

Love,
Kermos

Your own words quoting the Scripture >>> “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." <<<

Are you a lawyer, so needy of literal translations. What does the Holy Spirit tell you? I know what it tells me.

It tells me that it was passed on from Peter to the next person to the next person and so on.

But I'm not here to condemn the Protestant churches, or the individuals that don't wish to have any church which is already against the teaching of Jesus. As individuals can easily be fooled by Satan. Jesus even states where two or more are gathered so am I.

It isn't only Jesus but Paul as well, in his writings, talk commonly about the churches of believers who come together to worship Jesus.

So you should know that the churches have developed and continue to develop through the Holy Spirit. It's where Believers come together to worship Jesus and God.

If you take time, you can look up a series of books that are collected that have been written for a thousand plus years. They are the collected Scrolls of the Sunday sermons of the founding fathers. And that's the title of the series of books called 'The Sunday Sermons of the Founding Fathers'.

I strongly encourage you to read them.

 

[Kermos]

Your own words quoting the Scripture >>> “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." <<<

Are you a lawyer, so needy of literal translations. What does the Holy Spirit tell you? I know what it tells me.

It tells me that it was passed on from Peter to the next person to the next person and so on.

But I'm not here to condemn the Protestant churches, or the individuals that don't wish to have any church which is already against the teaching of Jesus. As individuals can easily be fooled by Satan. Jesus even states where two or more are gathered so am I.

It isn't only Jesus but Paul as well, in his writings, talk commonly about the churches of believers who come together to worship Jesus.

So you should know that the churches have developed and continue to develop through the Holy Spirit. It's where Believers come together to worship Jesus and God.

If you take time, you can look up a series of books that are collected that have been written for a thousand plus years. They are the collected Scrolls of the Sunday sermons of the founding fathers. And that's the title of the series of books called 'The Sunday Sermons of the Founding Fathers'.

I strongly encourage you to read them.

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Hello Bill,

You answered @MedicBravo's post two times, but you neglected to respond to post #16, so please visit and respond.

Here is the Roman Catholic Church's passage that underscores your claim to the pope holding a so-called office of Peter:

13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” 15 He said to...​

• Bill

Hello Bill,

The Holy Spirit tells me the Word of God is all in all "the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit, and are Life" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 6:63).

Your Roman Catholic Church has massive extra-biblical doctrinal books, for example:

• "Catechism of the Catholic Church" 864 pages web page link (shop.catholicsupply.com) short description "The Catechism draws on the Bible, the Mass, the Sacraments, Church tradition and teaching, and the lives of saints."
• "Code of Canon Law Annotated - 4th Edition" 1,876 pages web page link (shop.catholicsupply.com) short description "It provides a thorough, practical understanding of the laws of the Church through 1876 pages of legal texts and commentaries on the canon"

You preach to me that church is malleable, even contradicting the very Word of God, according to your traditions of men (Matthew 15:9) with your "you should know that the churches have developed and continue to develop". For example, you Roman Catholic Church members even go so far as to call the pope your Holy Father.

Lord Jesus prayed "Holy Father, keep them in Your name" (John 17:11).

We find Roman Catholic Church members refer to the pope as Holy Father, a mere man, which starkly contrasts to the Christ, our Christian example, referring to God as Holy Father, the Sovereign of all creation.

You proceeded to preach to me about fathers that are not my Father:

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And that's the title of the series of books called 'The Sunday Sermons of the Founding Fathers'.​

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I strongly encourage you to read them.​

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Despite the fact that the Holy Spirit controlled me to proclaim the decree of my King to you:

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But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ​

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(Matthew 23:8-10)​

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Your encouragement, strictly on the basis of the title, is against my Pastor (John 10:16), and the Holy Spirit says to reject your encouragement, so I reject your encouragement because you preach the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9) instead of the pure milk of the Word of God which God graciously delivered to us the children of God.

Bill, the Holy Spirit directs me to proclaim that

• post #16 is rich in the Word of God showing that God is Head of the family of the saints, and it shows your Protestant leanings.
• post #22 is rich in the Word of God showing that Christ is the rock upon which the Assembly is founded, and it shows the Roman Catholic Church's pope fraudulently holds authority over the churchmembers.

Do not be deceived, the traditions of men, which tell you what to believe, will not save you from the wrath of God!

Love,
Kermos

 

[Bill]

Hello Bill,

The Holy Spirit tells me the Word of God is all in all "the words that I have spoken to you are Spirit, and are Life" (Lord Jesus Christ, John 6:63).

Your Roman Catholic Church has massive extra-biblical doctrinal books, for example:

• "Catechism of the Catholic Church" 864 pages web page link (shop.catholicsupply.com) short description "The Catechism draws on the Bible, the Mass, the Sacraments, Church tradition and teaching, and the lives of saints."
• "Code of Canon Law Annotated - 4th Edition" 1,876 pages web page link (shop.catholicsupply.com) short description "It provides a thorough, practical understanding of the laws of the Church through 1876 pages of legal texts and commentaries on the canon"

You preach to me that church is malleable, even contradicting the very Word of God, according to your traditions of men (Matthew 15:9) with your "you should know that the churches have developed and continue to develop". For example, you Roman Catholic Church members even go so far as to call the pope your Holy Father.

Lord Jesus prayed "Holy Father, keep them in Your name" (John 17:11).

We find Roman Catholic Church members refer to the pope as Holy Father, a mere man, which starkly contrasts to the Christ, our Christian example, referring to God as Holy Father, the Sovereign of all creation.

You proceeded to preach to me about fathers that are not my Father:

​

And that's the title of the series of books called 'The Sunday Sermons of the Founding Fathers'.​

​

I strongly encourage you to read them.​

​

Despite the fact that the Holy Spirit controlled me to proclaim the decree of my King to you:

​

But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ​

​

(Matthew 23:8-10)​

​

Your encouragement, strictly on the basis of the title, is against my Pastor (John 10:16), and the Holy Spirit says to reject your encouragement, so I reject your encouragement because you preach the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9) instead of the pure milk of the Word of God which God graciously delivered to us the children of God.

Bill, the Holy Spirit directs me to proclaim that

• post #16 is rich in the Word of God showing that God is Head of the family of the saints, and it shows your Protestant leanings.
• post #22 is rich in the Word of God showing that Christ is the rock upon which the Assembly is founded, and it shows the Roman Catholic Church's pope fraudulently holds authority over the churchmembers.

Do not be deceived, the traditions of men, which tell you what to believe, will not save you from the wrath of God!

Love,
Kermos

So your dad is not your father?

When you fill out Hospital forms how do you fill it out for your father and mother?

I understand the difference between God and my father and my dad. Who is also my father. I don't have a problem with it because I understand it.

 

[Bill]

Back on subject

It is a terrible thing that so called Christian Universities teach such things. Just as bad as many churches accepting the sinful behavior of parishioners just because they want to fill their chuches and coffers with more people and money.

 

[Christ4Ever]

It tells me that it was passed on from Peter to the next person to the next person and so on.

Not to me
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18 KJV

Whose church Brother Bill? Jesus' Church. Whose building it? Jesus' is. So, Jesus is using Peter to build the church. The assumption here is that Peter is the foundation of the church. However, we know the church is not brick and mortar, and the Catholic Church like most denominations would have you believe that this is so. You knowing scripture Brother Bill, know that this is not so. Otherwise it would be membership of said denominations which not even the gates of hell (death) can prevail against, and not the actual church, which is the believers in Christ Jesus that even death cannot extinguish.

Churches/Denominations are like Governments, which are self-perpetuating. They are always in the survival mode of existence, to the extent that they'd even give up on what started them in the first place (beliefs), to further their continued existence. Constantly adapting to the social mores of the day, to find acceptability while continuing its existence.

I have no problem with folks attending this denomination or that one, if adherence to the word of God is what they do. Perfectly? lol I doubt outside the Body of Christ that is even possible.

Dear Brother, I could go on and on with this touching of "church" with just about everything that is wrong with the Catholic church, and just about every other if not every denomination, but I won't. It would be exhausting to even attempt this, if one could go through a general belief that there are 45,000 thousand of them in Christendom to have to go through!

That is why I can still call you and other Brothers or Sisters in Christ Jesus, though we might differ in respect to the denominational church we attend. I still don't believe that when judgment day comes and the believers pass muster of belief in Jesus Christ, that they'll be told to go to the respective section for the denomination of the church they attended while here on earth or somehow get a free pass for this one or that.

Anyway, my two ¢ ¢ for what it's worth.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
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[Bill]

Not to me
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18 KJV

Whose church Brother Bill? Jesus' Church. Whose building it? Jesus' is. So, Jesus is using Peter to build the church. The assumption here is that Peter is the foundation of the church. However, we know the church is not brick and mortar, and the Catholic Church like most denominations would have you believe that this is so. You knowing scripture Brother Bill, know that this is not so. Otherwise it would be membership of said denominations which not even the gates of hell (death) can prevail against, and not the actual church, which is the believers in Christ Jesus that even death cannot extinguish.

Churches/Denominations are like Governments, which are self-perpetuating. They are always in the survival mode of existence, to the extent that they'd even give up on what started them in the first place (beliefs), to further their continued existence. Constantly adapting to the social mores of the day, to find acceptability while continuing its existence.

I have no problem with folks attending this denomination or that one, if adherence to the word of God is what they do. Perfectly? lol I doubt outside the Body of Christ that is even possible.

Dear Brother, I could go on and on with this touching of "church" with just about everything that is wrong with the Catholic church, and just about every other if not every denomination, but I won't. It would be exhausting to even attempt this, if one could go through a general belief that there are 45,000 thousand of them in Christendom to have to go through!

That is why I can still call you and other Brothers or Sisters in Christ Jesus, though we might differ in respect to the denominational church we attend. I still don't believe that when judgment day comes and the believers pass muster of belief in Jesus Christ, that they'll be told to go to the respective section for the denomination of the church they attended while here on earth or somehow get a free pass for this one or that.

Anyway, my two ¢ ¢ for what it's worth.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
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When i look at Peter, he was the first. Even in Jesus own words, what you just quoted. Jesus is saying I'm going to build my church.

Building a Church takes time, and we know from the traveling of Paul that the church was spread and built up over a number of years.

As far as claiming one church over another I'm not doing that. What I am saying is that there was a foundation that was built that everyone went along with for many years. The Baptist and Methodist everybody else all branched out at some point but there was an original truth in the beginning and it lasted at least a thousand years. Out of that thousand years we had the development of the Bible that was inspired by God. After all everybody uses it or variations of the very same thing. And the same order of the books and so on. The words may be a little bit different as the Latin has passed along and Old English is also not used anymore as a regular language. But it still has the same words in the Bible and the books are in the same order. So we're still following some Authority.

Of course there's always the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Building a Church takes time, and we know from the traveling of Paul that the church was spread and built up over a number of years

So, you think the church is finished being built? When a parish sells off a church, and it gets demolished, does this mean a part of the church has been destroyed?

The Baptist and Methodist everybody else all branched out at some point but there was an original truth

The original truth is Jesus is that original truth. Not Peter or any other disciple, who may have established pockets of faith here or there through their preaching/teaching.

Out of that thousand years we had the development of the Bible that was inspired by God. After all everybody uses it or variations of the very same thing. And the same order of the books and so on. The words may be a little bit different as the Latin has passed along and Old English is also not used anymore as a regular language. But it still has the same words in the Bible and the books are in the same order. So we're still following some Authority.

That authority is God given, even to governments, for all authority, is God given. However, because they have that authority given to them, doesn't mean they are following His will. If you believe that, then you are sorely mistaken and lack discernment. You are comfortable where you are at, but if its that brick/mortar that you believe is what is saving you, or even a pope/preacher/teacher/etc., that is leading you even when going against the Word of God, then again you're mistaken.

One thing for sure that scripture shows us, is that God uses even the ungodly to have His will done. So, don't give too much credit to someone who puts their pants on one leg at a time or both at the same time, because you might be wearing them backwards. For if your love of brick & mortar or some temporal building/organization is what has you enthralled and kept in the faith, then you really don't know the church that Jesus has been building through the Holy Spirit, and continues to be the Head of. For remember all the Glory, Honor, and Praise is to God!

Don't get me wrong. I am appreciative and have a love of all my brothers & sisters who have gone before, for their faith, sacrifices, but they didn't do it for us, but for God! If they did it for the RCC then they didn't do it for Christ Jesus for they are not one and the same.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Bill]

So, you think the church is finished being built? When a parish sells off a church, and it gets demolished, does this mean a part of the church has been destroyed?

The original truth is Jesus is that original truth. Not Peter or any other disciple, who may have established pockets of faith here or there through their preaching/teaching.

That authority is God given, even to governments, for all authority, is God given. However, because they have that authority given to them, doesn't mean they are following His will. If you believe that, then you are sorely mistaken and lack discernment. You are comfortable where you are at, but if its that brick/mortar that you believe is what is saving you, or even a pope/preacher/teacher/etc., that is leading you even when going against the Word of God, then again you're mistaken.

One thing for sure that scripture shows us, is that God uses even the ungodly to have His will done. So, don't give too much credit to someone who puts their pants on one leg at a time or both at the same time, because you might be wearing them backwards. For if your love of brick & mortar or some temporal building/organization is what has you enthralled and kept in the faith, then you really don't know the church that Jesus has been building through the Holy Spirit, and continues to be the Head of. For remember all the Glory, Honor, and Praise is to God!

Don't get me wrong. I am appreciative and have a love of all my brothers & sisters who have gone before, for their faith, sacrifices, but they didn't do it for us, but for God! If they did it for the RCC then they didn't do it for Christ Jesus for they are not one and the same.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
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My friend, you have read my messages here for a long time. Have i ever said the church is brick and morter? I have taught here that our true Christianity comes from the Heart. It is in our hearts God must dwell. His will is what comes from our hearts.

 

[Kermos]

So your dad is not your father?

When you fill out Hospital forms how do you fill it out for your father and mother?

I understand the difference between God and my father and my dad. Who is also my father. I don't have a problem with it because I understand it.

My Father is alive.

The person you called my dad is dead, so there are no "Hospital forms" as per your question.

When I was birthed anew by God (John 3:3), then I became aware of my One True Father being in Heaven at that point for my God the Son declares "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh" (Matthew 15:9).

You are going through great lengths to nullify "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven" (Matthew 23:9).

Bill, back on track, the Roman Catholic Church's educational institution is tainted/leavened by the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9) as indicated in the following which you fail to address according to the Holy Spirit:

• post #16 is rich in the Word of God showing that God is Head of the family of the saints, and it shows your Protestant leanings.
• post #22 is rich in the Word of God showing that Christ is the rock upon which the Assembly is founded, and it shows the Roman Catholic Church's pope fraudulently holds authority over the churchmembers.
• post #25 is rich in the Word of God showing that Christ's words are Life, but the traditions of men are death.

Love,
Kermos

 

[Christ4Ever]

My friend, you have read my messages here for a long time. Have i ever said the church is brick and morter? I have taught here that our true Christianity comes from the Heart. It is in our hearts God must dwell. His will is what comes from our hearts.

I repeat "brick & mortar" because in truth when you talk to folks, regardless of denomination, that is really what is their focus. More so with Catholics, because that is what they are driven to attend. All the actions of the RCC are meant for one to be there as a necessity. It's not really about assembly of one with another, then it's for the need to find the presence of God and acknowledging the supremacy of "the church" so that you can clean yourself up. Everything from the dipping ones finger in water, to lighting of candles, to kneeling/crossing oneself before entering the pews, and it goes on and on.

Some times I wonder if I went to the confessional, and said it has been over 50 years since my last being there, how many Our Fathers' and Hail Mary's I'd be assigned as contrition/penance! They might even have to get me an especially long rosary to help me keep track! lol

I see you have a sincere heart brother, but that along with a long list of things is what is presented by the RCC as being needed to get right with God, and part of being seen as a member of "the church" and it's nurturing nature by being seen as "Mother Church" too.

Balderdash I say as does scripture to that!

I use that word, to show you, that your own heart jumped when you just read that word, because it cuts you to the quick to believe one could use such a word in association to the RCC! Forgive me for this play with words brother. Yet, I wonder would those same hearts so jump in anguish for those who have died in the faith but who are not part of the RCC or because they weren't part of the RCC?

Hearts that would be more in line with the sensibilities of "kill them all and let God sort them out." then a brotherhood of the faith in Christ Jesus that does not need the pope or any man but only Jesus!

To believe that the RCC does not have their own sects looking to take down Protestantism would be to blind oneself to reality. I'm sure there are some Protestants that would and try to seek the downfall of the RCC as well. I don't let the beam blind me to this reality of how denominationalism can corrupt or attempt to do so the love of Christ. It makes neither one valid in so doing. What I can say, is keep the faith of and in Christ Jesus, but not in the RCC brother or any other denomination.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Bill]

I repeat "brick & mortar" because in truth when you talk to folks, regardless of denomination, that is really what is their focus. More so with Catholics, because that is what they are driven to attend. All the actions of the RCC are meant for one to be there as a necessity. It's not really about assembly of one with another, then it's for the need to find the presence of God and acknowledging the supremacy of "the church" so that you can clean yourself up. Everything from the dipping ones finger in water, to lighting of candles, to kneeling/crossing oneself before entering the pews, and it goes on and on.

Some times I wonder if I went to the confessional, and said it has been over 50 years since my last being there, how many Our Fathers' and Hail Mary's I'd be assigned as contrition/penance! They might even have to get me an especially long rosary to help me keep track! lol

I see you have a sincere heart brother, but that along with a long list of things is what is presented by the RCC as being needed to get right with God, and part of being seen as a member of "the church" and it's nurturing nature by being seen as "Mother Church" too.

Balderdash I say as does scripture to that!

I use that word, to show you, that your own heart jumped when you just read that word, because it cuts you to the quick to believe one could use such a word in association to the RCC! Forgive me for this play with words brother. Yet, I wonder would those same hearts so jump in anguish for those who have died in the faith but who are not part of the RCC or because they weren't part of the RCC?

Hearts that would be more in line with the sensibilities of "kill them all and let God sort them out." then a brotherhood of the faith in Christ Jesus that does not need the pope or any man but only Jesus!

To believe that the RCC does not have their own sects looking to take down Protestantism would be to blind oneself to reality. I'm sure there are some Protestants that would and try to seek the downfall of the RCC as well. I don't let the beam blind me to this reality of how denominationalism can corrupt or attempt to do so the love of Christ. It makes neither one valid in so doing. What I can say, is keep the faith of and in Christ Jesus, but not in the RCC brother or any other denomination.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

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Where is the "roll my eyes" emojie. LOL.

You of all people here at Talk Jesus surprize me. Where is the individual relationship between a person and God in all you just wrote?

The catholics are not all about brick and morter. All the churches i have seen built were for the glory of God. I knew a priest (in heaven now) that was an artist. He spent a year working on carvings to decorate the church.

It isn't the building that makes the church, it is the fellowship of believers.

When i look at the Protestants, i don't really look at you as a conglomerate of churches. I see you as we are, the children of the Father. And this is all of you, whether you agree with eachother or not is beside the point.

God rolls His eyes when His children bicker back and forth over trivial things. Sunday versus saturday, drinking versus not drinking, a single day to God is a thousand years versus eternity, emersion with water versus spinkling and so on. These things are not what makes a person a child of God.

How we become a child of God to become part of the family of God is through baptism.

We accept Jesus as Lord, guess what, we do too

Honestly my friend. Don't let one bad time dictate to you how you view us.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Where is the "roll my eyes" emojie. LOL.

You of all people here at Talk Jesus surprize me. Where is the individual relationship between a person and God in all you just wrote?

= rolling eyes.
The word I used did hit a sore spot didn't it? But even with purpose, you can't except it.
Was it a lie what I wrote? If it failed to show a relationship between a person and God, it was because I didn't see it when I was involved in the RCC. Do, I judge you because you're Catholic? Nope, because you are still here posting. Start evangelizing for the RCC, and denigrating the Protestant faith, and without reservation, I will send you packing to I'm sure a more accommodating site.
However, how you are coming off here, as if you need to protect the RCC, is exactly what I'm talking about. Yet, you do not see it.

The catholics are not all about brick and morter. All the churches i have seen built were for the glory of God. I knew a priest (in heaven now) that was an artist. He spent a year working on carvings to decorate the church.

Never said all. In fact I easily separate the brick and mortar crowd, from those who I would consider Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus, who do any number of things that the RCC has no problem with, teaching them to do, and has more in common with heathen practices than men and women of God, according to Scripture. Still they are brethren to me.

I've been to Rome and have seen the beautiful artwork in many of the churches. In many respects, it might as well have folks walking around a rock to celebrate something or other, when no one knows what they looked like, much less would they themselves have wanted to see themselves carved or made into objects of worship!

It isn't the building that makes the church, it is the fellowship of believers.

When i look at the Protestants, i don't really look at you as a conglomerate of churches. I see you as we are, the children of the Father. And this is all of you, whether you agree with eachother or not is beside the point.

Were you more like this, but you know, or maybe you don't, your own hierarchy is not like that at all. Thankfully, God sees into the heart of the person, and knows the truth, even if they believe a lie. More horror for those who knew, but still persisted in those practices.

God rolls His eyes when His children bicker back and forth over trivial things. Sunday versus saturday, drinking versus not drinking, a single day to God is a thousand years versus eternity, emersion with water versus spinkling and so on. These things are not what makes a person a child of God.

There is much more than that I'm sure that God does not approve of, both collectively, and individually. That there are no more people prostate on their faces on Sunday, Saturday, or every day of the week should be a surprise to all, if they be a child of a Holy God.

Honestly my friend. Don't let one bad time dictate to you how you view us.

I do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. However, the water still needs to go irrespective of whether the baby is enjoying it's time in it.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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<><

 

[Kermos]

My friend, you have read my messages here for a long time. Have i ever said the church is brick and morter? I have taught here that our true Christianity comes from the Heart. It is in our hearts God must dwell. His will is what comes from our hearts.

Hello Bill,

You wrote "His will is what comes from our hearts", but God's will comes from God to work in us Christians for the Holy Spirit reveals "it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure" (Philippians 2:13) which is highly related to this Word of God "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 5:16).

Love,
Kermos

 

[Bill]

= rolling eyes.
The word I used did hit a sore spot didn't it? But even with purpose, you can't except it.
Was it a lie what I wrote? If it failed to show a relationship between a person and God, it was because I didn't see it when I was involved in the RCC. Do, I judge you because you're Catholic? Nope, because you are still here posting. Start evangelizing for the RCC, and denigrating the Protestant faith, and without reservation, I will send you packing to I'm sure a more accommodating site.
However, how you are coming off here, as if you need to protect the RCC, is exactly what I'm talking about. Yet, you do not see it.


Never said all. In fact I easily separate the brick and mortar crowd, from those who I would consider Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus, who do any number of things that the RCC has no problem with, teaching them to do, and has more in common with heathen practices than men and women of God, according to Scripture. Still they are brethren to me.

I've been to Rome and have seen the beautiful artwork in many of the churches. In many respects, it might as well have folks walking around a rock to celebrate something or other, when no one knows what they looked like, much less would they themselves have wanted to see themselves carved or made into objects of worship!


Were you more like this, but you know, or maybe you don't, your own hierarchy is not like that at all. Thankfully, God sees into the heart of the person, and knows the truth, even if they believe a lie. More horror for those who knew, but still persisted in those practices.


There is much more than that I'm sure that God does not approve of, both collectively, and individually. That there are no more people prostate on their faces on Sunday, Saturday, or every day of the week should be a surprise to all, if they be a child of a Holy God.


I do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. However, the water still needs to go irrespective of whether the baby is enjoying it's time in it.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
<><

Actually your word didn't bother me at all, I actually had to look it up to see what it meant. LOL

 

[Curtis]

Jesus has and will always be the only Rock where the Church is being built. The Rock is the revelation confession that Peter spoke that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God.

Jesus is also known as the only foundation where the Church is being built. Also ,Jesus is also known as the chief cornerstone of stone.

 

[B-A-C]

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Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church..."

• The debate centers on what “this rock” refers to:
  • Roman Catholic view: Peter himself.
  • Protestant view: Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ.

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"...they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised..."

• Paul clearly distinguishes his mission to the Gentiles and Peter’s to the Jews.
• Peter addresses “Men of Judea” and “all who dwell in Jerusalem”, quoting Hebrew prophecy and speaking directly to a Jewish audience.

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“Men of Israel, why do you wonder at this...?”

• Again, Peter’s audience is Jewish, and his message is rooted in Jewish prophecy.
• This is the exception, not the rule. Peter is hesitant at first, and even defends his actions to Jewish believers afterward. It shows that while Peter did preach to Gentiles, it wasn’t his primary calling.

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"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion..."

• He writes to Jewish believers scattered across regions—again showing his focus on the Jewish diaspora.

 

[Curtis]

Paul’s last letter, 2 Timothy, which he wrote from Rome about AD 67, he names ten people who had visited him in Rome. But he does not mention Peter. If Peter were the Pope (which is a name made up by man) He would have surely visited Paul.