No Human has Gone to Heaven but Jesus!

[Garee]

If you saw the things that I see. If you experience the things that I experienced. You would not be talking the way you do, LOL.

I wish that everyone could Experience One spiritual battle where they are involved with the angels and then you would see everything

Hi thanks for the reply

It is the things he sees beforehand and faithfully commandments. "Let there be" Called the law of belief, understanding, faith

Why would you ask if I saw the things you see? I would rather follow the loving commandment not to add or subtract from the perfect (sola scriptura) sealed with 7 seals till the end of time

If I was looking for signs to wonder, wonder, wonder after there are plenty out there. Satan the king of lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder after in limbo is working overtime today with lying worder as if true prophecy (sola scriptura)

No signs were given to wonder after Jesus cale them that do seek after sign an evil generation (non-converted .

Believers have prophecy no need to wonder, wonder, wonder limbo, limbo, limbo.

Angels fake word not coined until the 10th century created to create an illusion of many gods in the likeness of men today called patron saints.

 

[Bill]

Hi thanks for the reply

It is the things he sees beforehand and faithfully commandments. "Let there be" Called the law of belief, understanding, faith

Why would you ask if I saw the things you see? I would rather follow the loving commandment not to add or subtract from the perfect (sola scriptura) sealed with 7 seals till the end of time

If I was looking for signs to wonder, wonder, wonder after there are plenty out there. Satan the king of lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder after in limbo is working overtime today with lying worder as if true prophecy (sola scriptura)

No signs were given to wonder after Jesus cale them that do seek after sign an evil generation (non-converted .

Believers have prophecy no need to wonder, wonder, wonder limbo, limbo, limbo.

Angels fake word not coined until the 10th century created to create an illusion of many gods in the likeness of men today called patron saints.

I don't understand how Angel is a fake word as it's been in the scripture from eons ago.

 

[Garee]

I don't understand how Angel is a fake word as it's been in the scripture from eons ago.

Thanks

I do not think that is a good way to measure the powerful "Let there be" faith the unseen eternal things of Christ rather using an oral tradition of dying mankind .And not a living abiding tradition of sola scriptura. God's tradition.

And it is not that truth is becoming less then when the first inspired. an oral tradition


Christianity grows in wisdom and knowledge.


I would say remove the fake word angel sounds the same as the Greek Angelos not like the Hebrew Malak but an opposing definition, replaced it with the false understanding.

No such thing as an invisible creation called angels a legion of male and female disembodied workers, gods in the likeness of dying mankind .

The invisible faithful power Let there be of Christ . . .and

not of the church dying mankind

Hebrew Malak messenger. Greek Angelos falsely translated "angel" also means messenger, ambassadors, UPS, Fed Ex etc .it does not sound like the Greek Anggelos

It is one of those $ 64,000.00 to the winner proving in the creation called angels invisible gods . I will put in $5.00 LOL

 

[Bill]

Thanks

I do not think that is a good way to measure the powerful "Let there be" faith the unseen eternal things of Christ rather using an oral tradition of dying mankind .And not a living abiding tradition of sola scriptura. God's tradition.

And it is not that truth is becoming less then when the first inspired. an oral tradition


Christianity grows in wisdom and knowledge.


I would say remove the fake word angel sounds the same as the Greek Angelos not like the Hebrew Malak but an opposing definition, replaced it with the false understanding.

No such thing as an invisible creation called angels a legion of male and female disembodied workers, gods in the likeness of dying mankind .

The invisible faithful power Let there be of Christ . . .and

not of the church dying mankind

Hebrew Malak messenger. Greek Angelos falsely translated "angel" also means messenger, ambassadors, UPS, Fed Ex etc .it does not sound like the Greek Anggelos

It is one of those $ 64,000.00 to the winner proving in the creation called angels invisible gods . I will put in $5.00 LOL

What was the entity that spoke to Mary, and John the Baptists dad, and Joseph and the women at the tomb and when the apostles were watching Jesus go up to heaven?

 

[Garee]

What was the entity that spoke to Mary, and John the Baptists dad, and Joseph and the women at the tomb and when the apostles were watching Jesus go up to heaven?

There is a world of difference between a vison, Christ revealing prophecy from within and literally seeing things .

Cant literally see someone invisible entering into a invisible place

God is not a man as us. it s the goal of Satan who is not subject to the faith or labor of Christ's love to deceive mankind to believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings.

As a invisible God he hides himself. It easy for him to hide .Revealing himself takes work .Let there be Light and His presence reveled the hiden things of darkness . God is literal Light and not that he can only create it temporally as a dying sign to the world

A study of that doctrine (a God who hides) can be beneficial

He hid the Son of man Jesus from Mary recognizing . The Holy Father empowering the son of man Jesus can walk into a room not noticed. Or through a crowd . .again by the unseen Let there be power of the Holy Father .

Acts 1:11 ;Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen (Vison working from within) him go into heaven.

1 Samuel 23:23 See therefore, and take knowledge of all the lurking places where he hideth himself, and come ye again to me with the certainty, and I will go with you: and it shall come to pass, if he be in the land, that I will search him out throughout all the thousands of Judah.

Job 23:9 On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Job 34:29When he giveth quietness, who then can make trouble? and when he hideth his face, who then can behold him? whether it be done against a nation, or against a man only:


Jesus had that power working from within was saved from a false vision .Three times the Holy Father gave words to His son Jesus as it is written (sola scriptura) again and again as it is written struck him out ,Never saw the faith ball come

 

[B-A-C]

Let’s be clear: the idea that it’s Satan’s goal to deceive people into believing God is a Jewish man is not just wrong—it’s blasphemous. Scripture is unambiguous: Jesus Christ is God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). Denying that is the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:2–3).

1.​

Yes, God is spirit and often hides Himself (Isaiah 45:15), but He has also revealed Himself fully in the person of Jesus Christ. To say God cannot or would not take on flesh is to reject the very heart of the gospel. The incarnation is not a trick—it’s the fulfillment of prophecy and the ultimate act of divine love.

2.​

Jesus wasn’t merely a man empowered by the Father. He is the eternal Word made flesh. He didn’t just carry the Spirit—He is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact imprint of His nature (Hebrews 1:3). To reduce Him to a man with “power working from within” is to strip Him of His divinity.

3.​

The ascension in Acts 1:11 was not a vision—it was a literal, visible event. The angels didn’t say, “You’ll feel Him return in your hearts.” They said, “This same Jesus… will come in like manner.” That means visibly, bodily, and gloriously. Anything less is a denial of the Second Coming.

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God doesn’t just create light—He is light (1 John 1:5). Jesus said, “I am the light of the world” (John 8:12). His presence exposes darkness, not because He’s a mystical force, but because He is the holy, incarnate Son of God. The “Let there be light” moment in Genesis was not just symbolic—it was the beginning of creation, and Jesus was there (John 1:3).

5.​

Using verses like Job 23 or 1 Samuel 23 to suggest that God is always hiding or that Jesus was some kind of invisible force walking through crowds is a misuse of Scripture. Jesus walked among people, taught openly, and was seen by hundreds after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:6). He wasn’t hiding—He was revealing the Father.

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Bottom Line: This isn’t a minor doctrinal disagreement. Denying the incarnation, the visible return of Christ, or the divinity of Jesus is heresy. It’s not “deep revelation”—it’s deception. And it needs to be called out plainly, just as Jesus did with the Pharisees who twisted Scripture for their own ends.

 

[Bill Taylor]

There is a world of difference between a vison, Christ revealing prophecy from within and literally seeing things .

Cant literally see someone invisible entering into a invisible place

God is not a man as us. it s the goal of Satan who is not subject to the faith or labor of Christ's love to deceive mankind to believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings.

As a invisible God he hides himself. It easy for him to hide .Revealing himself takes work .Let there be Light and His presence reveled the hiden things of darkness . God is literal Light and not that he can only create it temporally as a dying sign to the world

A study of that doctrine (a God who hides) can be beneficial

He hid the Son of man Jesus from Mary recognizing . The Holy Father empowering the son of man Jesus can walk into a room not noticed. Or through a crowd . .again by the unseen Let there be power of the Holy Father .

Acts 1:11 ;Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen (Vison working from within) him go into heaven.

1 Samuel 23:23 See therefore, and take knowledge of all the lurking places where he hideth himself, and come ye again to me with the certainty, and I will go with you: and it shall come to pass, if he be in the land, that I will search him out throughout all the thousands of Judah.

Job 23:9 On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Job 34:29When he giveth quietness, who then can make trouble? and when he hideth his face, who then can behold him? whether it be done against a nation, or against a man only:


Jesus had that power working from within was saved from a false vision .Three times the Holy Father gave words to His son Jesus as it is written (sola scriptura) again and again as it is written struck him out ,Never saw the faith ball come

B-A‐Ç is quite correct.

 

[Garee]

Let’s be clear: the idea that it’s Satan’s goal to deceive people into believing God is a Jewish man is not just wrong—it’s blasphemous. Scripture is unambiguous: Jesus Christ is God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). Denying that is the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:2–3)

Thanks, I would offer

Satan the spirit of lies has no understanding of the unseen spiritual things of Christ who works in born again son of God called Christians

Things of Christ as mysteries hid in Biblical parables. Hiding the mysteries of Christ's faith or labor of love from to the devil who again has no vision beyond what the eyes see. . . a gambling god that guesses having no "Let there be" faith as it is written .the understanding of God

A example in Mathew 4. If you are the Son of man sent to demonstrate the power of the Holy Father command stones to become food .?

Mathew 16 again guessing Lucifer chose Peter the serial denier Satan as the antichrist which is another teaching authroity other than sola scriptura falsely inspired Peter one of the many antichrists' false apostles false prophet .The devil gave to Peter words to to rebuke our heavenly Holy Father and forbid the true son of man Jesus from doing the will of the unseen Holy Father.

Mathew 16:22-23Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.;But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

When the vail was rent signaling the circummsion of Christ the bloody husband There was no Jewish man as King of kings dying mankind siting in the Holy of Holies

.Satan fell (Revelation 20:3 )and could no loner deceive all the nations of the world that God is a Jewish dying man as king of kings He will be released at the end of the age to again deceive all the nations

Again he simply has no idea who the Son of man is. . . . he murders all who name the name Christian

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus

Invisible God is not a man as us

Looking as a sign to seek after for some sort visible return of invisible Christ, is heresy

Remember Christ loving commands Nicodemus the sign and lying wonder seeker.saying. . Stop seeking after signs to wonder after, Calling them the evil generation natural unconverted mankind.

The loving command to wonder not therefore exposing the king of lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder, after as if true prohecy

 

[B-A-C]

Response to Theological Errors Regarding Christ, Satan, Signs, and Peter​

Let’s be clear: the idea that Satan’s goal is to deceive people into believing God is a Jewish man is not just wrong—it’s blasphemous. Scripture is unambiguous:

• Jesus Christ is God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9).
• Denying that is the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:2–3).

Satan Knows Who Jesus Is​

Satan absolutely knows who Jesus is. He tempted Him directly in the wilderness (Matthew 4:3), and demons cried out, “I know who You are—the Holy One of God!” (Luke 4:34). The idea that Satan “has no idea who the Son of Man is” is false and contradicts Scripture.

Peter’s Denial Was Not Blasphemy​

Peter denied Jesus out of fear, not doctrinal rejection. He was rebuked, restored, and used mightily by God (John 21, Acts 2). Blasphemy against the Son of Man is forgivable (Matthew 12:32), and Peter was clearly forgiven.

Jesus Is the Jewish Messiah and King of Kings​

Jesus was born of a Jewish woman under the Law (Galatians 4:4), and He is the King of kings (Revelation 19:16). The tearing of the veil (Matthew 27:51) confirmed His finished work—it did not erase His identity. Psalm 16:10 and Acts 2:27 affirm that God did not allow His Holy One’s flesh to decay—a direct prophecy of the resurrection.

Invisible God Became Visible in Christ​

While God is spirit (John 4:24), Jesus is God incarnate—fully God and fully man.

• “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:14).
• “In Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9).
• “The man Christ Jesus” is our mediator (1 Timothy 2:5).

Signs and Wonders Are Not All Evil​

Nicodemus was not rebuked for seeking signs—he came sincerely, acknowledging Jesus’ divine authority (John 3:2). The rebuke about signs was directed at unbelieving crowds (Matthew 12:39).
Signs and wonders continued after Jesus ascended:

• Mark 16:17–18 – Signs will follow those who believe.
• Acts 2:43, Acts 6:8 – Apostles and Stephen performed signs and wonders.
• 1 Corinthians 12 – The Holy Spirit gives gifts, including miracles and healing.

Yes, Scripture warns of lying signs and wonders (2 Thessalonians 2:9), but that’s not a condemnation of all supernatural works. The key is discernment—testing the spirits (1 John 4:1) and remaining grounded in Scripture.

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These statements fail the test of 1 John 4:2–3, which says:

_“Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that do...

 

[B-A-C]

Statement on the Bodily Nature of the Resurrected Christ​

We affirm that Jesus Christ, following His resurrection, retained a glorified physical body—flesh and bone—not merely a spiritual form. This is evidenced by His own declaration that He was not a spirit (Luke 24:39), His invitation to Thomas to touch His wounds (John 20:27), His consumption of food (Luke 24:42–43), and His physical interaction with Mary Magdalene (John 20:17).

Scripture declares that God did not allow the flesh of His Holy One to see decay (Psalm 16:10; Acts 2:27–31), indicating that Jesus’ body was preserved and glorified, not discarded or transformed into something non-physical.

Jesus ascended into heaven in this same glorified body (Acts 1:9–11), and the angels testified that He would return in the same manner. Revelation 1:7 affirms that every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him—suggesting a visible, bodily return that will be witnessed universally, not just spiritually perceived by believers.

During the millennial reign, it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus will continue to reign in this glorified flesh, as His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4), and He will rule with power and visibility.

This understanding aligns with Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 15:42–49, where the resurrection body is described as imperishable, glorious, and spiritual—not meaning immaterial, but Spirit-empowered and eternal. Jesus, as the firstfruits of the resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:20), sets the pattern for the glorified bodies believers will one day receive.

 

[B-A-C]

Statement on Signs, Miracles, and Spiritual Gifts in the Church Age​

While Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for seeking signs (Matthew 12:39; Luke 11:29), this was a condemnation of their unbelief and demand for proof—not a blanket prohibition against signs, miracles, or spiritual gifts among believers. The “sign of Jonah” refers to His resurrection, which remains the ultimate sign to a skeptical world.

Scripture affirms that signs and miracles continued after Jesus’ ascension. The apostles performed many signs and wonders (Acts 2:43; Acts 5:12), and even non-apostles like Stephen (Acts 6:8) and Philip (Acts 8:6–7) operated in miraculous power. Jesus Himself declared, “These signs will accompany those who have believed” (Mark 16:17–18), indicating that signs are a normative part of the believer’s life, not limited to the apostolic era.

Paul teaches extensively on spiritual gifts in 1 Corinthians 12–14, including gifts of healing, miracles, prophecy, and tongues. These gifts are distributed by the Holy Spirit as He wills (1 Corinthians 12:11), and are meant for the edification of the church—not for personal glory or spectacle.

While believers are not to seek signs as a substitute for faith (John 4:48), they are encouraged to earnestly desire spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 14:1) and to operate in the power of the Holy Spirit. The New Testament never teaches that miracles ceased after a certain point; rather, it warns that counterfeit signs will accompany the rise of the Beast (2 Thessalonians 2:9; Revelation 13:13–14), which implies that genuine signs will also be present and discernible.

Therefore, we affirm that signs, miracles, and spiritual gifts remain active and available to believers today, in accordance with Scripture and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Bill]

Let’s be clear: the idea that it’s Satan’s goal to deceive people into believing God is a Jewish man is not just wrong—it’s blasphemous. Scripture is unambiguous: Jesus Christ is God in the flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9). Denying that is the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:2–3).

1.​

Yes, God is spirit and often hides Himself (Isaiah 45:15), but He has also revealed Himself fully in the person of Jesus Christ. To say God cannot or would not take on flesh is to reject the very heart of the gospel. The incarnation is not a trick—it’s the fulfillment of prophecy and the ultimate act of divine love.

2.​

Jesus wasn’t merely a man empowered by the Father. He is the eternal Word made flesh. He didn’t just carry the Spirit—He is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact imprint of His nature (Hebrews 1:3). To reduce Him to a man with “power working from within” is to strip Him of His divinity.

3.​

The ascension in Acts 1:11 was not a vision—it was a literal, visible event. The angels didn’t say, “You’ll feel Him return in your hearts.” They said, “This same Jesus… will come in like manner.” That means visibly, bodily, and gloriously. Anything less is a denial of the Second Coming.

4.​

God doesn’t just create light—He is light (1 John 1:5). Jesus said, “I am the light of the world” (John 8:12). His presence exposes darkness, not because He’s a mystical force, but because He is the holy, incarnate Son of God. The “Let there be light” moment in Genesis was not just symbolic—it was the beginning of creation, and Jesus was there (John 1:3).

5.​

Using verses like Job 23 or 1 Samuel 23 to suggest that God is always hiding or that Jesus was some kind of invisible force walking through crowds is a misuse of Scripture. Jesus walked among people, taught openly, and was seen by hundreds after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:6). He wasn’t hiding—He was revealing the Father.

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Bottom Line: This isn’t a minor doctrinal disagreement. Denying the incarnation, the visible return of Christ, or the divinity of Jesus is heresy. It’s not “deep revelation”—it’s deception. And it needs to be called out plainly, just as Jesus did with the Pharisees who twisted Scripture for their own ends.

But this does not answer my question

"What was the entity that spoke to Mary, and John the Baptists dad, and Joseph and the women at the tomb and when the apostles were watching Jesus go up to heaven?"

 

[B-A-C]

1.​

• Entity: Gabriel
• Reference: Luke 1:26–38
• Details: Gabriel is explicitly named as the angel who was sent by God to announce to Mary that she would conceive Jesus by the Holy Spirit.

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2.​

• Entity: Gabriel
• Reference: Luke 1:11–20
• Details: Gabriel also appeared to Zechariah in the temple to announce the birth of John the Baptist. Zechariah doubted, and Gabriel identified himself by name and struck him mute until the prophecy was fulfilled.

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3.​

• Entity: An angel of the Lord (not named)
• References:
  • Matthew 1:20–21 (announcing Jesus' birth)
  • Matthew 2:13 (warning to flee to Egypt)
  • Matthew 2:19–20 (telling him to return to Israel)
• Details: These were dreams in which “an angel of the Lord” appeared. The angel is not named, but the messages were clear and divine.

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4.​

• Entity: Two angels
• References:
  • Matthew 28:2–7 (one angel, described with appearance like lightning)
  • Luke 24:4–7 (two men in dazzling apparel)
  • John 20:12 (two angels in white)
• Details: The accounts vary slightly, but all describe angelic beings announcing Jesus’ resurrection.

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5.​

• Entity: Two men in white clothing (angels)
• Reference: Acts 1:10–11
• Details: These “men” told the apostles that Jesus would return in the same way He ascended. Though not explicitly called angels, the description matches angelic appearances elsewhere.

 

[Bill]

1.​

• Entity: Gabriel
• Reference: Luke 1:26–38
• Details: Gabriel is explicitly named as the angel who was sent by God to announce to Mary that she would conceive Jesus by the Holy Spirit.

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2.​

• Entity: Gabriel
• Reference: Luke 1:11–20
• Details: Gabriel also appeared to Zechariah in the temple to announce the birth of John the Baptist. Zechariah doubted, and Gabriel identified himself by name and struck him mute until the prophecy was fulfilled.

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3.​

• Entity: An angel of the Lord (not named)
• References:
  • Matthew 1:20–21 (announcing Jesus' birth)
  • Matthew 2:13 (warning to flee to Egypt)
  • Matthew 2:19–20 (telling him to return to Israel)
• Details: These were dreams in which “an angel of the Lord” appeared. The angel is not named, but the messages were clear and divine.

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4.​

• Entity: Two angels
• References:
  • Matthew 28:2–7 (one angel, described with appearance like lightning)
  • Luke 24:4–7 (two men in dazzling apparel)
  • John 20:12 (two angels in white)
• Details: The accounts vary slightly, but all describe angelic beings announcing Jesus’ resurrection.

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5.​

• Entity: Two men in white clothing (angels)
• Reference: Acts 1:10–11
• Details: These “men” told the apostles that Jesus would return in the same way He ascended. Though not explicitly called angels, the description matches angelic appearances elsewhere.

I just realized , my 2nd reply went to you, it was ment for Garee

But that is the exact answer that I want to hear from him

 

[Bill]

There is a world of difference between a vison, Christ revealing prophecy from within and literally seeing things .

Cant literally see someone invisible entering into a invisible place

God is not a man as us. it s the goal of Satan who is not subject to the faith or labor of Christ's love to deceive mankind to believe God is a Jewish man as King of kings.

As a invisible God he hides himself. It easy for him to hide .Revealing himself takes work .Let there be Light and His presence reveled the hiden things of darkness . God is literal Light and not that he can only create it temporally as a dying sign to the world

A study of that doctrine (a God who hides) can be beneficial

He hid the Son of man Jesus from Mary recognizing . The Holy Father empowering the son of man Jesus can walk into a room not noticed. Or through a crowd . .again by the unseen Let there be power of the Holy Father .

Acts 1:11 ;Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen (Vison working from within) him go into heaven.

1 Samuel 23:23 See therefore, and take knowledge of all the lurking places where he hideth himself, and come ye again to me with the certainty, and I will go with you: and it shall come to pass, if he be in the land, that I will search him out throughout all the thousands of Judah.

Job 23:9 On the left hand, where he doth work, but I cannot behold him: he hideth himself on the right hand, that I cannot see him:

Job 34:29When he giveth quietness, who then can make trouble? and when he hideth his face, who then can behold him? whether it be done against a nation, or against a man only:


Jesus had that power working from within was saved from a false vision .Three times the Holy Father gave words to His son Jesus as it is written (sola scriptura) again and again as it is written struck him out ,Never saw the faith ball come

But this does not answer my question

"What was the entity that spoke to Mary, and John the Baptists dad, and Joseph and the women at the tomb and when the apostles were watching Jesus go up to heaven?"

 

[B-A-C]

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1. Genesis 16:7–11 – Angel of the Lord appears to Hagar in the wilderness.
2. Genesis 19:1–17 – Two angels visit Lot in Sodom and warn him to flee.
3. Genesis 21:17 – Angel of God calls to Hagar from heaven.
4. Genesis 22:11–15 – Angel of the Lord stops Abraham from sacrificing Isaac.
5. Exodus 3:2 – Angel of the Lord appears to Moses in the burning bush.
6. Numbers 22:22–35 – Angel of the Lord confronts Balaam and speaks to him.
7. Judges 6:11–22 – Angel of the Lord appears to Gideon.
8. Judges 13:3–21 – Angel of the Lord appears to Manoah and his wife (parents of Samson).
9. 1 Kings 19:5–7 – Angel provides food and encouragement to Elijah.
10. 2 Kings 19:35 – Angel of the Lord strikes down 185,000 Assyrians.
11. Zechariah 1:9–19 – Angel speaks with Zechariah and interprets visions.
12. Daniel 6:22 – Daniel says God sent His angel to shut the lions’ mouths.
13. Daniel 8:16; 9:21 – Gabriel is named and sent to Daniel with understanding.
14. Daniel 10:5–21 – Angelic being (possibly Gabriel or another) speaks to Daniel; Michael is mentioned as a chief prince.

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1. Matthew 1:20 – Angel of the Lord appears to Joseph in a dream.
2. Matthew 2:13, 19 – Angel of the Lord warns Joseph to flee to Egypt and later tells him to return.
3. Matthew 4:11 – Angels minister to Jesus after His temptation.
4. Matthew 28:2–7 – Angel of the Lord rolls back the stone and speaks to the women.
5. Luke 1:11–38 – Gabriel appears to Zechariah and later to Mary.
6. Luke 2:9–15 – Angel of the Lord announces Jesus’ birth to shepherds, followed by a multitude of heavenly host.
7. John 5:4 – (Some manuscripts) mention an angel stirring the waters at the pool of Bethesda.
8. Acts 5:19 – Angel of the Lord opens the prison doors for the apostles.
9. Acts 8:26 – Angel of the Lord tells Philip to go to the desert road.
10. Acts 10:3–7 – Angel of God appears to Cornelius.
11. Acts 12:7–10, 23 – Angel of the Lord frees Peter from prison and later strikes Herod.
12. Revelation 1:1 – Angel sent to John to reveal the vision.
13. Revelation 7:1–2; 8:2–13; 10:1–11; 14:6–20; 16:1–21; 18:1–21; 19:17; 20:1 – Numerous angels appear throughout John's visions.

 

[B-A-C]

Biblical Evidence That Angels Can Be Invisible or Unseen Until Revealed​

1.​

“Then the Lord opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way...”
The angel was already present, but Balaam couldn’t see him until God opened his eyes. This strongly implies invisibility or spiritual concealment.

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2.​

“Elisha prayed, ‘O Lord, open his eyes so he may see.’ Then the Lord opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.”
The angelic army was already there, but invisible until the servant’s eyes were supernaturally opened.

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3.​

“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it.”
Suggests angels can appear in human form and be unrecognized, implying their true nature is concealed—possibly even invisible unless revealed.

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4.​

“Suddenly an angel of the Lord appeared...”
The word “suddenly” implies the angel was not visible before that moment.

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5.​

“I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, while the men who were with me did not see the vision...”
Daniel saw the angelic being, but others did not, even though they were present. This suggests selective visibility.

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Not necessarily. While angels do appear visibly in many cases (e.g., to Mary, Zechariah, Lot, etc.), Scripture also shows:

• They can be present but unseen (Numbers 22, 2 Kings 6).
• They can be seen by one person but not others (Daniel 10).
• They can appear in visions (Zechariah, Revelation), but also in physical reality (Genesis 19, Acts 12).
• They can be mistaken for humans (Hebrews 13:2), implying a concealed identity.

Old Testament​

1.​

“Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.”
This is a clear reference to flying angels—the seraphim are heavenly beings with wings and flight capability.

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2.​

“...while I was still speaking in prayer, the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, came to me in swift flight...” (ESV)
Gabriel is described as coming in swift flight, indicating angelic movement through the air, not walking.

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“When they moved, I heard the sound of their wings like the roar of rushing waters...”
The cherubim in Ezekiel’s vision have wings that make a roaring sound, implying hovering or flying.

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4.​

“Then I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in midheaven...”
While this is symbolic, it shows flying beings in heaven, and many angelic figures in Revelation are airborne.

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5.​

“Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach...”
This angel is flying, not walking or standing—clearly not a human messenger.

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6.​

“I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven...”
The angel is descending from heaven, implying aerial movement.

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These verses show that angels:

• Fly or hover (Isaiah 6:2, Daniel 9:21, Revelation 14:6)
• Descend from heaven (Revelation 10:1)
• Have wings (Isaiah 6, Ezekiel 1)
• Move in ways humans cannot

 

[Garee]

But this does not answer my question

"What was the entity that spoke to Mary, and John the Baptists dad, and Joseph and the women at the tomb and when the apostles were watching Jesus go up to heaven?"

I would ofer.

An entity is something that exists as itself. It does not need to be of material existence.

Ceremonial shadows used in parables which compare the things seen the temporal historical to the unseen eternal invisible according to the recipe. . . .2 Corinthians 4:18

Remember, without parable Christ spoke not hiding the gospel understanding from the god of this world and his followers.

Parables have no spiritual value to the lost. The mysteries of faith the invisible things of Christ they limit the understnding to the things seen the temporal historical. No gospel rest

 

[B-A-C]

1. The Pharisees understood some parables​

Thinking of Matthew 21:45:

“When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking about them.”

That’s a clear example where the meaning wasn’t hidden—it hit home. They didn’t need spiritual rebirth to grasp that Jesus was rebuking them.

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2. Some parables are straightforward​

You mentioned the parable of the net in Matthew 13:47–50:

“The kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish...”

Jesus even explains it plainly:

• The net = the kingdom
• The fish = people
• The sorting = final judgment

That’s not cryptic at all. Even a child could grasp the basic idea.

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3. Parables serve dual purposes​

Jesus said in Matthew 13:13:

“Therefore I speak to them in parables; because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”

But He also said in Mark 4:33–34:

“With many similar parables Jesus spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand.”

So parables can reveal truth to those who are open, and conceal it from those who are hardened. It’s not an all-or-nothing situation.

Even Jesus said in John 18:20:

“I have spoken openly to the world... I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together; I said nothing in secret.”

 

[B-A-C]

"Not Everything in the Bible Is a Hidden Truth" – A Balanced Statement​

“While the Bible contains parables, symbols, and deeper spiritual truths, the majority of its message is meant to be understood plainly. God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33), and He has revealed His will clearly through Scripture. If we treat every verse as a hidden mystery, we risk inventing meanings that God never intended. The danger is that we could end up following our own interpretations rather than God's truth.”

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Supporting Verses for Clarity in Scripture​

• Deuteronomy 30:11–14 – “This commandment... is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach... the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it.”
• Psalm 119:105 – “Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.”
• 2 Timothy 3:16–17 – “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable... so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
• John 18:20 – “I have spoken openly to the world...”

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Concern Is Valid​

If we assume everything has a hidden meaning, then:

• We can twist Scripture to say whatever we want.
• We undermine the plain teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
• We risk elevating personal insight over divine revelation.

2 Corinthians 11:3:

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” (NASB 1995)